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Title: I'm never drinking again.


Trane - June 2, 2007 12:44 AM (GMT)
It's not even a bad experiance I've had.
But I just tried liqor for the first time in awhile, I've never even been fond of drinking really, I'm just sticking to pot. Ugh, like I just mixed a little tiny bit, I'd say like not even a mouth ful of rum into my drink.
I mean, I don't think it tastes nice, I drink it and like, I'm suchga cheap drunk it's not even funny.
I'm a little tipsy, but evne now that I am not even morning effect, I hate to drink. and now I'm making a vow to never drink again. and I know people say that a lot just becuase they feel horrible, but not even now, while I'm still a little tippy. I've never ever liked drinking, I hate drinkign with friends becuase I don't liek it, and I'm a giant paranoia. and when I drink home alone, I still just think it's gross without being paranoid.
It's been my first drink in awhile, I've hated it so much in the poast aswell, just becuase I haven't liked it, it's been since november. So, I decided to wonder agian if I really hated it that muhc, and I do so much, and I'm never drinking again.
I'mgoing to stick to pot and cigars, it's so much better in so many ways, more so generally pawt.
I'm not going to go on about how it is, but ugh drinking just there's no good comign out for it, not for me anyway.
It just makes me fucking more sad anyway, I mean I don't know, it's not doing anything for me at all. I'm sucha fucking idiot when I do it too.

anyone else agree?

guten nacht/

sorry for spelling mistakes.

HolySpawn - June 2, 2007 12:53 AM (GMT)
Pot and smoking isn't good for you either you shouldn't do shit like that.

Trane - June 2, 2007 12:57 AM (GMT)
All, i can tell you, it doesen't even compare to how baf drinking is for you, you just don't need it.
I'm not going to become such a pot advocate, but jesus christ, don't drink, for the love of god don't drink.

HolySpawn - June 2, 2007 12:59 AM (GMT)
Iam not going to drink never. But Pot is just as bad though it kills ur brain cells and it could be just like a gateway drug for u.

Yackemflaber - June 2, 2007 01:10 AM (GMT)
guten nacht? deiner deutsch ist nicht sehr schlecht
....ja, und mein ist nicht sehr gut, ich wisse

Canard - June 2, 2007 01:39 AM (GMT)
Drink's fine, just know your limits & stick with your mates, nowt bad'll happen. Best times I've had are mostly when pissed & up for a laugh.

Think everyone has the 'I'm never going to drink again' thing, tends to last about as long as it takes for someone to offer you a drink.

HolySpawn - June 2, 2007 01:41 AM (GMT)
Well i know iam not gonna drink cuz it is against my religion and i dont wanna go against that.

Trane - June 2, 2007 11:03 AM (GMT)
Well, morning after I stand by my word.
I've never enjoyed alcohal, so meh.

Please HolySpawn, just because your religion is against it, does not mean I should be pressured. If this goes against your religion I'm sorry but, I mean what about your personal opinion, I mean, I think that if you're a muslim, you can go against your religion and still be a muslim. Atleast I think so.
Imean you're not stupid and oblivious to everything outside of the bible, look upon it, you do what you feel is right. Becuase when you truly feel like you are yourself, it's a special feeling. and it saddens me to see some people don't fulfill that because of tihngs like these.

Paper_Shapes - June 2, 2007 11:20 AM (GMT)
If you don't enjoy a drink then its best not to have it. Just make sure you don't turn into one of them preachy bitches that condemn drunken stupor, as thats bad attitude. Same goes for the ganj, as long as you enjoy it then keep it real, potheads can become anti-social very quickly.

Trane - June 2, 2007 12:03 PM (GMT)
Exactly.
I mean people like to booze and what not, you're fine go ahead.
But me I don't like alcohal in the first place, so meh.

Midna - June 2, 2007 01:37 PM (GMT)
havent tried beer yet lmao :haha:

Cardboard Box Junkie - June 4, 2007 01:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
I'm never drinking again.


I would be a millionaire if I got a fraction of a cent everytime I heard someone say it

. . .

And then break it.

Null - June 4, 2007 05:22 PM (GMT)
Getting smashed out of your face is much better than getting high

Anyways, newsflash dude, smoking is much worse for you than drinking.

FearHeldDear - June 4, 2007 05:27 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I have a lot more fun when I'm blind drunk than when I'm stoned out of my mind (both are great though).

I've really only ever said "I'll never drink again" once, and that was after the first time I drank vodka. What a terrible hangover. I still don't really drink liquor (usually just rum if I do), but I adore beer.

Null - June 4, 2007 05:29 PM (GMT)
Vodka is the devils drink. That and Tequila slammers have been crossed off my list ever since the night I collapsed and coughed up blood. HIGH 5!

dJdC - June 4, 2007 07:14 PM (GMT)
Alcohol and Marijuana are in two totally different caregories. I prefer drinking because I can go some where and do it legally and have a good time. Every person I know got busted and ended up on probation because of weed. Though I do know people who have recieved DUIs. I dont know its a double edged sword.. I prefer drinking though

Konoha no Jiraiya-Sama - June 4, 2007 08:39 PM (GMT)
If anything I'd rather do pot then drink. Its too often I see someone mess them selves up on alcohol. Dealing with a drunk is no fun, if its a guy half the time their violent, or whatever. If its a girl that's drunk and I have to deal with her she keeps throwing herself at me like some 2 cent harlot, sometimes not. I've yet to see someone do that while high on pot. I mean you can't even compare the two, there not even close to being the same type of high either.

Besides you don't read "Pothead kills girl driving high" in the papers.

The Departed - June 4, 2007 08:56 PM (GMT)
yeah but at least drinking is legal. smoking pot is generally against the law unles you have glacoma. i personally don't drink, my older brother does too much, generally while playing poker, but that's just how he is. it's because you're too young to drink that you think that, when you turn the legal age, you'll probably get the hang of it. :)

Null - June 4, 2007 10:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Konoha no Jiraiya-Sama @ Jun 4 2007, 08:39 PM)
If anything I'd rather do pot then drink. Its too often I see someone mess them selves up on alcohol. Dealing with a drunk is no fun, if its a guy half the time their violent, or whatever. If its a girl that's drunk and I have to deal with her she keeps throwing herself at me like some 2 cent harlot, sometimes not. I've yet to see someone do that while high on pot. I mean you can't even compare the two, there not even close to being the same type of high either.

Besides you don't read "Pothead kills girl driving high" in the papers.

I use to be a regular blazer but then it just got out of hand, i lost my motivation for anything, i didnt want to do anything productive, i stopped going to school i was wasting all my money on it. Im glad i finally got off that shit. Plus, whats better while socialising? chatting shit while being generally happy with your friends/dancing/hhaving a laugh or just sitting there tripped out laughing at stupid things and then eventually falling asleep?

Cardboard Box Junkie - June 4, 2007 11:47 PM (GMT)
Have you ever been stoned? Cannabis is not a hallucinogen, you can't "trip out", laughing is only one side effect, and a huge stereotype, lots of stoners are completely normal, sitting around having conversations normally. What you're describing for alcohol is more accurate "chatting shit while being generally happy with your friends/dancing/hhaving a laugh", I generally find drunk people run around like idiots, get into fights, throw up everywhere, be assholes and ruin fun (generally that is, there are of course good drunks).

I have no problem with people being against pot, but for god sake can they at least learn about what they're talking about?

Oh, one thing I'll say against pot, is don't drink and smoke at the same time, that can fuck you up. (there's another blow for alcohol, a lot of the cases of scizophrenia in pot smokers, is because they drink as well)

Personally drinking doesn't do it for me. You have to drink heaps, you feel sick, lose control of yourself and feel like shit in the morning. At least with weed I can function like a normal human being, during and after it.

Trane - June 4, 2007 11:56 PM (GMT)
Hmm,
Not to sound like a kid trying to be a bad ass at all.
But I mean, law's obviously no big deal, c'mon, I'm not going to say majority, but many are under age drinkers or have drank. Isn't that illegal?
But it's not uncommon, for underage drinking.
But like pot, I mean, it's really about the same damage to you as booze.
And here,

I'll do this...




Downsides to alcohal
  • Kills brain cells
  • hang over
  • violent
  • vomiting
  • doing outrageously stupid things that you regret
  • Not very pleasent to be around sometimes
or the paranoia
Now of course these aren't all accurate or anytihng, but they are agreeable to a degree.

Downsides to pot
  • kills brain cells
  • Smoking pot generally, just like smoking anything it's bad for you.
  • Posibly could be laced with other drugs. But that's pretty much only if you're not careful.
Now I know both of these are kind of unfair, so don't yap at me.

If people like to drinkl that's fine I'm not stopping you, but please don't say pot's incredibly bad for you.
If you think that look at this website (NOT bollocks!)
The Facts

And me, I'm not like on stoner or burnout status, I'd say about once every one or two weeks.
I smoke cigars in the mean time, more than I do pot, but I'm not like everyday.
It's better with cigars because they're not addictive.

I still stand by my word, I'm not drinking again.
But coming from someone who has had a few drinks in the past.
I've never ever had fun, or liked the taste the feeling or waking up at all.
If you do that's completely fine, I'm just saying for me personally I've never liked one thing about drinking for me. I don't liek ti whe people are drunk, but well peopel can do what they want why should be an impact. Unless I'm like a relationship partner or along those lines.

Null - June 5, 2007 06:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cardboard Box Junkie @ Jun 4 2007, 11:47 PM)
Have you ever been stoned? Cannabis is not a hallucinogen, you can't "trip out", laughing is only one side effect, and a huge stereotype, lots of stoners are completely normal, sitting around having conversations normally. What you're describing for alcohol is more accurate "chatting shit while being generally happy with your friends/dancing/hhaving a laugh", I generally find drunk people run around like idiots, get into fights, throw up everywhere, be assholes and ruin fun (generally that is, there are of course good drunks).

I have no problem with people being against pot, but for god sake can they at least learn about what they're talking about?

Oh, one thing I'll say against pot, is don't drink and smoke at the same time, that can fuck you up. (there's another blow for alcohol, a lot of the cases of scizophrenia in pot smokers, is because they drink as well)

Personally drinking doesn't do it for me. You have to drink heaps, you feel sick, lose control of yourself and feel like shit in the morning. At least with weed I can function like a normal human being, during and after it.

Don't condescend me, and ask me If ever been stoned when I clearly just stated in the last post I was a regular user. And actually einstein, Cannabis IS a hallucinogen. Looks like your the one who needs to learn more about what theyre talking about bro.

A mild hallucinogen, marijuana has some of alcohol’s depressant and disinhibiting properties. User reaction, however, is heavily influenced by expectations and past experience, and many first-time users feel nothing at all.

http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm


Also, using the words 'tripped out' I changed at the last minute as I was going to use 'monged out' but didn't think Americans were familiar with the term.

Again, please don't talk down on me and try and correct me when your not even sure of your own argument. I started blazing at around 12 and only stopped a year ago, so I am as much qualified to talk about as anyone else who smokes pot around here is.

Cardboard Box Junkie - June 5, 2007 11:43 PM (GMT)
Hashish is a hallucinogen. Cannabis is not. Same plant, different forms. Normal weed isn't strong or concentrated enough to produce hallucinogenic effects, hash is.

I do know what I'm talking about. I learnt about making Hashish and a fuckload about cannabis in general from a 60 (ish) year old hash maker who'd been smoking pot for probably over 40 years. Smoking weed will not make you hallucinate, you'd pass out before you could smoke enough of it.


Null - June 5, 2007 11:53 PM (GMT)
The general point of that post was for you to give me more respect on the topic than you was, it's not really you or anybody elses right to march into a thread and imply that someone you have never met and never will meet has no idea what theyre talking about on the topic of discussion. I think I've made my point fairly and hopefully you'll think twice about trying to knock me down on my opinons and points of view with condescending language that isn't needed.

Going back to the topic, most of the weed thats smoked today isn't really the pure stuff anymore and hasen't been for a long time. The substance people are smoking nowadays is just various forms of Skunk, cut with different agents with added substances that can easily cause halluicnations whether it be visual or audio types. And as I said before, 'tripped out' I used as an interchangable term for 'monging out' which I was sure some Americans woulden't be familiar with.

P.s.
Cannabis sativa does indeed contain mild hallucinogenic properties.

Cardboard Box Junkie - June 6, 2007 12:09 AM (GMT)
If I'm being condescending, it's because I found it offensive that you were just saying stoners sit around laughing at stupid shit and passing out. It's a ridiculous stereotype, which made me think that you haven't smoked much pot. Stoners socialize just the same as normal people.

And yes Cannabis Sativa has mild hallucinogenic properties, which you can't get from smoking the straight plant. It has to be concentrated into hash before it you can achieve it's hallucinogenic effects.

Null - June 6, 2007 12:15 AM (GMT)
Stereotype was used to make a point. Are you honestly saying no one else in this thread has made a stereotype on drinkers? Cause' I drink every weekend and I'm sure I'm not always violent always throwing up and always feel like shit the morning after. But I have been a few of those things at times while drinking, all stereotypes come from a foundation that was based on, the point is that there not always true.

dJdC - June 6, 2007 01:31 AM (GMT)
I just think its way to exspensive to smoke weed. Goods Mids Regs.. 10 15 20 a gram. Though now I find it hard to find a gram under 20 since Highschool. But I dont smoke anymore so.
I dont want to sound like Megruff but it is a gateway drug. Even if you say oh I've only done weed and thats all I'll ever do... How many people have you shared a blunt, bowl, joint, or bong with? More than likely you shared with someone that has done |E|, coke, crack, heroin, Dust, Meth and whatever else there is. I am positive you know someone from your circle or click that has moved on to other drugs and Im sure they started with weed. I'm also sure that you all know some kid from Highschool that you once chilled with and now like to call him a "Fuck Up".This "Fuck Up" is the walking mess that you dont ever want to run into because it makes you depressed to see how he destroyed his life from doing hardcore drugs. Yea but weed is just a funny plant.

Cardboard Box Junkie - June 6, 2007 01:46 AM (GMT)
It isn't a gateway drug. The gateway effect is cause by the illegality of it, not the drug itself. Because people have to go through dealers, they get subjected to the pressure dealers put on people to buy harder stuff, and offered harder stuff when weed has run out so they buy it.

If people weren't forced to go through street dealers to buy their cannabis, they wouldn't have easy access to harder drugs.

Here's a survey done as well to dispell the gateway myth.

QUOTE (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration @ US Dept. of Health and Human Services, National Household Survey on Drug Use 2000 (Washington, DC: SAMHSA, 2001)
False. The ‘gateway’ claim is a myth. Marijuana is the most widely used illicit drug so it is very likely that people who use less commonly-used drugs will have also tried marijuana. That does not mean marijuana led to hard drug use. The research indicates most marijuana users do not go onto use hard drugs; marijuana is more properly viewed as a strainer that catches most illicit drug users and they go no further. The numbers bear out these findings: According to the federal government 76.3 million people have tried marijuana, while only 2.78 million have ever tried heroin in their lifetimes and only 5.3 million have ever tried cocaine in their lives. The figures for monthly use are similar: 10.7 million Americans admit to being regular marijuana users, yet only 1.2 million admit to using cocaine each month - 1 for every 9 marijuana users - and 130,000 people use heroin monthly, or 1 for every 80 regular marijuana users.


As for it being expensive, I agree. Also another thing caused by the illegality, because dealers can charge whatever they want, there's no way to regulate it, only by druggie ethics.


Paper_Shapes - June 6, 2007 02:00 AM (GMT)
Man, this pro-pot stuff, leave it alone. Some dude not wanting to drink again was the main point of discussion, continuing to enjoy a chong was a side issue.
Its like syaing you're gona give up gambling to pursue a habit of smoking crack. Compulsion will kill you either way in the long run, no matter what your poison is (that wasn't a referrence to bud literally killing you). I'm not getting pulled in the bud debate again, as that adds to the stoner stereotype, and its the same thing I've been listening to for years - another reason to smoke alone. Enlightenment is the same as self-righteousness, same shit different stink.
All that matters is that you keep it real. Don't preach like jehovas witnesses, as that kind of attitude ain't cool.

Football_Fanatic - June 10, 2007 08:43 PM (GMT)
My religion is against it and I don't give a fuck, religion's nothing but trouble. :/ I can't believe you said that trane! Drinking is awesome, I got drunk on Gin the past thursday, and even though I can't remember most of it, all I can say it was fun!

Apart from getting shitface :P

Corpse - June 19, 2007 01:06 PM (GMT)
Alcohol isn't the cause for stupidity. The people that don't know their limits, have far too much, then do stupid stuff, that's there fault. Alcohol never tells you to go and start a fight with someone. Know your limits, have a good time, nothing else.

I got nicely done yesterday, and just had a laugh with my mates, and climbed some trees :D.

whitetigerx7 - June 19, 2007 05:53 PM (GMT)
I drank once. I didn't like the taste of the liquor and I can't stand beer at all. It tasted like crap IMO. IMO wine is way better and not as harsh with it's alcohol content and when consumed in moderation can be good for your system. I don't drink till I pass out anymore. I only drink till I feel calmed down and then stop.

sadistic_greyfox - June 19, 2007 06:53 PM (GMT)
I can tell you something though, there is hardly any feeling greater than coming home after a 14 hour day at work, grabbing a cold beer, or smoking with a few friends. And CBJ is right, when we talked it was always about work or something that impacted us, never were we like "woah man your head is like a cheeseburger" maybe that's for the stuff laced with other drugs but straight weed doesn't make you start "tripping". Drinking is great and it's an acquired thing but mostly enjoyed among the working community who realise that they do deserve a cold one whether it be at a party or just sitting home in the couch.




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