Title: Getting over her..?
Providence - June 20, 2007 07:34 AM (GMT)
This is a long post, so just read the bottom paragraph if you're not interested in the details. So much has taken place that I don't even know where to start. Therefore, I won't even attempt to give a backstory. There's far too much that has gone down and the last thing I want is to remember it. To sum it up, we started out great and I fell deeply in love. A series of problems occured about three months into the relationship and continued until we broke up on our seventh month, which was on June 7th.
The break up was particularly bitter. For quite some time leading up to it, I could tell she didn't want to be with me anymore. It was understood for the longest time that she didn't love me, but now she didn't even like me. I tried constantly to win her over and was the best boyfriend that I could possibly be, but my attempts never got me anywhere with her and she never changed the way she felt about me.. it was very hard to be happy in that relationship with all of the problems, so I blame all that for the reason we broke up in the first place.
Anyways, I don't want to get into details.. I could type a novel, there's that much to it. As I was saying, the break up was bitter and she ignored me during lunch (this was the last day of school). I kept begging her to listen to me, but she just wouldn't. So I caught up to her and yelled at her. I said "fuck you" louder than I meant to and more than once. She cried and people that knew nothing about her heartless nature and the problems we had to endure think I'm an asshole, but anyways.
That evening I felt horrible about it. I called her, but she wouldn't talk to me and said she wanted nothing to do with me. She told me never to call again and threatened to block my number, but I was persistant and finally we spoke. She was mad, so I told her I'd call back in a month or so, because I couldn't stand the idea of just cutting her out of my life completely after she was the reason I lived through each day for so long. I can't even begin to explain how much she meant to me and how much I love her even as I type this out. So the idea troubled me.
Anyways, we talked the next day and I managed to talk her into accepting my next call in three days. She was fine with it, so I was happy. I figured we could be friends and that all the problems would blow over. If we began to talk normally and have good conversations, maybe she'd fall for me again.. afterall, the problems in the relationship would be all that we talked about, meaning we were never happy together.. which is what I blame for the cause of her no longer liking me or wanting to be with me.
So, anyways, I had my fingers crossed for friendship and hopefully a relationship sometime later. She continued to run through my head like she always did, as if no problems had ever even occurred. We talked every day or so for a couple of minutes each time, and things seemed to be going well. But then I logged onto MySpace yesterday evening and realized that she was off of my top friends, meaning that she deleted me as a friend. My heart just kind of dropped... it's a familiar feeling by now.
I tried calling her, but she wouldn't talk to me or explain to me why this had happened. Eventually, I got her to talk and she told me that she just couldn't stop thinking about the problems and that she was fine without me. She was perfectly fine without me. I don't understand how you can remove someone from your life so easily after being a relationship for seven months. I understand there was probably more bad than good moments, but those good moments were highlights of my life. I suppose it all comes down to her feeling nothing like I did. I was in love and she was not. The relationship and the good moments always meant more to me.
So now we're done apparently. She's not going to come back. She's not missing me and she's not going to. Even if I did want to throw my pride (or what is left of it) out the window, she wouldn't take me back, because she doesn't even wish to speak to me anymore at all. This is the end of me and her. So, I need to move on by any means necessary. I've hurt myself a lot in the past over this girl, and just last night I considered suicide before I went to bed. I went as far as I pray to God, whom I really don't believe in, to kill me, and I wrote a note of sorts in case it worked.
I don't know, I won't get much into that. I'm just saying, this is just causing me a lot of pain every moment almost, and the nights are the worst. I'm afraid to go to sleep, because I've been dreaming of her so much lately. All the dreams are so nice, and we're always so happy. It makes it so much harder to move on. I just don't know what to do about it anymore. But I NEED to move on. I'm not asking for advice on how to win her back, I'm asking for advice on how to move on and fall out of love. Because I know she's not coming back and I'm done trying. Anyways, thanks if you read.
God Told Me to Skin You Alive - June 20, 2007 07:46 AM (GMT)
What can I say other then unlucky, dude? At least you got that 7 months, it's not unrequited love or something. You can take a chance and persist, but DON'T hope for a relationship, it's over. Friendship is a comprimise you're gonna have to deal with. Chances are not a lot of people will have anything to say, as they don't know you're situation, like the full details etc. I can't say anything that will help, probably, (other then generic "plenty of fish in the sea" phrases) so I'm not gonna try.
Again, unlucky,
Metal_girl_Solid - June 20, 2007 08:03 AM (GMT)
Wow, I read it all, and it reminds me of my very first boyfriend. We had something for a bit over 6 months, and one day he told me that he didn't loved me anymore, and that he didn't loved me for the last 3 months or so.
I felt like I was living in a lie all that time, and it was even harder since I still loved him with all my heart. I tried to talk over and over again, but it only seemed to agitate him. Now I haven't seen him for the last 1,5 year, since he seemingly didn't wanted anything to do with me
That has been three years now, and it took me two years to get over him completely.
Don't think about suďcide, even though it mihgt seem tempting.
Trust me, it mihgt not feel like it now, but you WILL get over her someday.
And when you do, you'll discover there are more, and even better girls that you deserve
Hope it helped a bit
Paper_Shapes - June 20, 2007 10:49 AM (GMT)
Puppy love always seems like the hardest thing to get over. It ain't like you got married and have all that bullshit to deal with, so in that sense you're not so bad off. Tick it off as experience and learn by it, love is only a word at the end of the day, and as an emotion is very fickel.
No-oneSpecial - June 20, 2007 12:52 PM (GMT)
Ha ha ha ha...
That was so tasty.
You totally smothered her too much, she got tired of you. Isn't it obvious? As for making her cry in public, that's not hard. Girls will break down in any public situation like that in your age group. Hahaha I remember when my friend got some bad news and this sleazy cunt tried to move in...
He got 9 stitches :D
Fuck I loved her, what a treasured friend :D
She's got a kid now, she's really come far.
/rant
Canard - June 20, 2007 12:53 PM (GMT)
Going through something similar. I don't think there's any magic way to just suddenly feel better. You have to feel like crap. Worst part (for me at least) is just lack of hope that you could actually feel like that again, whether with her or with another girl, and it's the first time in my life I've never had any hope. Such an alien feeling to me.
Try talking it over with a mate. It's really a hard thing to bring up 'feelings' with mates, but it does allieviate a bit of the feeling of the whole world being set up against you. Only reason I managed to bring it up at all was when I burst into tears at a party because the song in my head reminded me of her. Mate took me aside and we talked about love, commitment, suicide, just shared out some of the crap in me head. Then I chased after some scall down the road attempting to stab him with a bottle opener, but that's off on a tangent.
Just plod on. There's really no other option, as shit as it is.
Oh, I force myself to sleep with music on quietly as well, now. Hard to get used to, but it at least stops you thinking so much at night and you can try to influence your dreams away from her with the right music. Really is a pain in the arse to adapt to sleeping like that, but it helps for me. Thank fuck for Sigur Rós.
Roy Campbell - June 20, 2007 01:42 PM (GMT)
wow, my situation (at end 2 paragraphs mainly) is exactly like my situation, but in mine, the other person is slightly............different than in yours if you get what I mean.
Firstly don't listen to the people who say, 'plenty of fish in the sea' 'there are other girls out there' and so on, becuase all these obviously care about is the sex, its different to love, you only love so many people.
however unlike you, I refuse to get over it though I must, I will not let it rest, it make twist and turn me into a freak and my whole life will be lived in despair but im willing to take that on the chin.
lastly, if you were to prey to god, wouldn't it be better to ask for her love?
EDIT: changed it so it doesn't say morons Metal_girl_Solid ;)
Metal_girl_Solid - June 20, 2007 01:47 PM (GMT)
^Yeah, I have said that 'there were more fish in the sea', but that's because I say that out of my own experience. And no, I don't just dive into a relationship because of sex. I strongly believe in love, and not just what my hormones tell me.
So thank you for calling me a moron, for I was just trying to help
UrbanCombat - June 20, 2007 03:13 PM (GMT)
Holy shit you really liked her eh? there must be some other girl you have seen around school... maybe...you know start afresh. Though this is coming from someone who never thought that its the end of my life from splitting up with someone. My attemps usually end up in disaster.
Hanging out with your mateys playing pool down the pub at lunchtimes usually helps to take your mind off things.
JCC - June 20, 2007 03:21 PM (GMT)
Put a picture of her on a dartboard in the hope it'll make you not like her as much?
Other than that, there isn't a lot I can suggest. :/
Providence - June 20, 2007 06:08 PM (GMT)
Alright, I appreciate all the replies.. especially those of you who took the time to read the entire post, because I know it was kind of excessive. Like I said, I could go on for days about this.. it's like so much has taken place. But hey, even though most of you haven't said much that I don't already know, it's good to know a second or third or whatever opinion agrees or has had similar experiences. And the suggestions are very much appreciated.
Anyways, I understand suicide is not an option. I admit a lot of times I'd rather just die than go another day like this, but I don't think I could ever bring myself to going that far. I'd be hurting a lot of friends and family that care about me and I don't want that. And it's true, I don't doubt that I'll meet someone new one of these days.. it's just so hard now, I want to move on somehow and stop being so depressed. My mind is clouded with thoughts of her all the time. All these good memories..
@Canard - Yeah, I've talked to many, many friends about my problems since all this has taken place, and I know I'd be so much worse off if I hadn't. Lately I've been focusing on friends more than anything, because I know she kept me from it a lot of times.. she really became my life. I've got plans for this weekend, and that's something to look forward to. As for the music, that's not a bad idea.. I'll probably start doing that to keep my mind off of things, because the night is when it bothers me the most, especially when I'm trying to fall asleep... anyways, thanks again to everyone for the suggestions.
Solid Snake The Great - June 20, 2007 06:25 PM (GMT)
My suggestion to moving on is this; Get rid of everything she bought for you, or anything that belonged to her, or put it in storage or something. Delet her number from your phone and cross it out if you have it in an address book. Get rid of, or put in storage, whatever objects remind you of her. Go out with friends more. Get a hobby. Go on holiday with a friend or a group of friends and relax.
It may seem like a harsh way of getting over something so special to you, but if you really want to get over it, this is probably one of the best ways.
Providence - June 20, 2007 06:54 PM (GMT)
Yeah man, I've already done that for the most part. I deleted her number from the caller ID so I won't accidently run into it while searching for someone else. She really didn't give me much during the relationship, but mostly everything has been either burnt or put away where it can't be seen and won't be seen for a very long time. She's the one that will have trouble, because I gave her so much.. little things like drawings and notes, small items..
Corpse - June 20, 2007 07:59 PM (GMT)
Dude, i would not say getting rid of everything is the best idea.
Sure, get rid of any contact details or whatever.
But don't get rid of the possessions.
Remember that once they made you happier than anything. And they did that because you were with someone.
And you will soon realise that because of where you were, and if you come out the other side stronger, you will be as good as ever.
I always like to be reminded of things that make me happy.
I am lucky to still be with someone, but I understand that one day it will end. But I refuse to let it hinder my life.
You just need to think that you will love again. I'm not talking about the fish in the sea thing. But, you will love someone again. I am not one for saying everyone has one true love. You fall in love with who you allow yourself to, and you fall out of love with who you allow yourself to.
Yackemflaber - June 21, 2007 02:00 AM (GMT)
I'm no expert on this kind of thing, but I read your whole post (and actually wished you wrote more details) and thought I could leave my thoughts anyway.
And yes, I read your other posts, but I don't see much to address from them, ask away if you want more input though.
First of all, suicide over a girl? That doesn't really make any sense to me, I can see you would be depressed, but as my morning radio DJs said once "If you kill yourself because the popular girl dumped you; you won't live to see her get fat" and I know it's not exactly the same thing, but it still has some relevance.
She won't care if you kill yourself, other people will see you as being kind of a whimp (sorry dude, but that's society).
And most importantly, if you kill yourself you won't live to meet the one girl who you love even more than this one and that loves you back even more.
ps: the God I was taught about won't kill you
As for getting over her: look to the future. Don't completely forget her because you must remember the good times and learn from the bad. You have your whole life ahead of you, and as I stated earlier you will find a girl who you love even more and who loves you back the same.
Hang out with your friends more often, if you got out of touch with some because of this girl, get back into touch. Spend lots of time with people who make you happy and want to have you around. Surround yourself with people who remind you how awesome you are.
And of course, don't do anything stupid, like stare at her, start smoking or drinking (assuming you don't already, but if you do just don't do it more often than normal), egg her house, or throw out everything that reminds you of her (which it appears is advice too late).
Good luck with everything, if you want to talk about or just want to talk to someone who always tries to make people laugh, just PM or message me or something.
Providence - June 21, 2007 03:52 AM (GMT)
I know you're right about the suicide thing. The funny thing is, I know I'll look back one of these days and curse myself for acting as I do now, but I just can't help the way I feel. But I know better than to kill myself, and I care about the people around me.. I don't want to cause them pain.
As for the moving on, I've been focusing a lot on friends and it's been helping more than it would otherwise. And although I've thrown away a few things, there's still a lot that I've kept and I've just decided to put it all away and out of sight. I can't bring myself to completely getting rid of her. But anyways, thanks a ton for the advice.. it's very much appreciated.
Roy Campbell - June 21, 2007 06:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| And most importantly, if you kill yourself you won't live to meet the one girl who you love even more than this one and that loves you back even more. |
but what if that was the one girl he will ever love the most?
Canard - June 21, 2007 06:51 PM (GMT)
Then he's phenomonally unlucky, given the amount of people in the world.
's not really as clear cut as having one person that you can love more than anyone else, just a case of finding one of the people you're capable of truly loving & being loved back, and holding the fuck onto her. Armchair philosophy. >_>
Providence - June 21, 2007 06:55 PM (GMT)
The special thing about this girl is that I could spend so much time with her and never be annoyed. If anything, I would only fall deeper in love the more I was with her. And I've never met anyone like that before her. But she came into my life unexpectedly, when I wasn't looking for a girlfriend or anything like that.. so I like to think that someone else might be able to do the same at any moment, especially if I'm looking. Life is unpredictable.. sometimes for the better.
Roy Campbell - June 21, 2007 09:18 PM (GMT)
Exaclty ^, you can't just go out, find someone, go out with them then fall in love, you don't love hundereds of people, it may even be one like I said, love is as very very strong word and should not be used lightly, i hate it when bf/gf say to each other 'i love' you becuase 99% of the time they don't
Lore - June 21, 2007 11:24 PM (GMT)
Is she your first love? If so well then you might not ever really get over her completly, and that's fine. You'll probably get reminded of her one day but it just depends how you'll deal with it.
That MySpace thing you mentioned is a bit, well I wouldn't say retarded, but I just don't use MySpace, I despise it actually. So it's kind of hard for me to realise if that's a really bad thing or not that she deleted you off of friends.
Anyways, don't go searching for love, and if you fall in love with someone again sometime soon, then it's probably the rebound and you should just stop and become an angry hermet for a while. Brooding on the world :lol:
Eitherway I think love can be best compared to a religion, you have to beleive that it exists for it really to exist, if everyone in the world said love is bullcrap well then it would cease to exist as everyone wouldn't be in their relationships 100%.
Enjoy the time, your too young for relationships anyway if you're still in school, no offence, but probably 75% of girls will turn out to be whores anyways in school.
Good luck mate and sorry if this doesn't really help.
Cardboard Box Junkie - June 22, 2007 12:54 AM (GMT)
I've been on both sides of what you're going through Prov and I really feel for you, it's shit.
Firstly, I'd like to say to anyone going on with their "oh, it's just a school romance, it doesn't matter", or "it's just a girl, get over it, move on", or other shit like that, then you may as well get out of the topic, cause you wouldn't be saying shit like that if you know/have known love. Love knows no boundaries, and if you truly believe yourself to be in love (and that's all love is, if you believe it, then you love) and then lose that love, it can be devestating. Saying shit like move on, find someone else, isn't going to help.
Next, I'm not defending your girl Prov, but perhaps I may be able to give some insight to why she is doing what she's doing, because (as ashamed as I am to admit) I've more or less cut an girl off after I broke up with her. It wasn't because I hated her, or didn't want anything to do with her, it was more a defence mechanism to protect myself from further hurt.
I was with this girl for 9 months and loved her, but in the last month or so, I don't know what happened, but I fell out of love. No matter what I could do, I didn't have the love I once has for this girl and I could see that she still fully loved me, so I continued on with it for a while simply because I couldn't break up with her, I couldn't hurt her. Even though I didn't love her, and didn't want to be with her in a romantic sense, I still cared (and still do actually) deeply for her and I couldn't bring myself to hurt her.
Eventually though, I couldn't keep lying, it wasn't fair on either of us. So, I broke it off. She couldn't accept it, I'd made up my mind, but she wasn't having any of it. And it hurt all the way to see her hurting, so I stopped contact. I decided rather than keep on having to reject her constantly, constantly seeing her hurt that I wouldn't speak to her anymore, I'd ignore, let her hate me so she could get over it all the quicker and move on with her life like she deserved to.
I didn't want her so hung up on me that she let her life fall to pieces around her trying to win me back. So I let her go, completely.
I don't know if that us why she is doing this, but it seems similar to me, perhaps she could be just trying to make it easier, I don't know, something to think about.
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As for dealing . . . well everyone deals in their own way. Me? When I've been fucked over by love, I gather my closest friends around me and we get trashed, have a good time, be idiots and forget about it for at least a night anyway, though usually ends up me spilling all my emotional shit to one of them, but it's good to get it out and then I find I can just push it to the back of my mind and just try to keep going. The only person you can ever truly depend on is yourself, sure might get great mates, or that special person to get you through, but don't completely depend on them. As long as you've got yourself left over after all the shit has gone down, you can always pick yourself up and start again.
It works for me anyway. I'm pretty strange though. I have the ability to pretty much bottle up any issue that troubles me, ignore it, and forget about it. Shit happens, there's nothing you can do about it, I just don't let things get to me because I find there's no point. Maybe it's not a good thing to do, but that's just how I am.
I really hope you find peace though Prov. It's tough shit to get through, but I'm sure you'll get through it, you seem like you can handle it.
Providence - June 22, 2007 02:13 AM (GMT)
@Lore - It's true that she's my first true love. I've never felt this way before and I can't even begin to explain how much she changed me. Of course, she didn't mean to, but there was just something about her that opened my eyes and made me happier than I had ever been. She came into my life during a time when I was very depressed and gave me a reason to live. I realize now that it was a mistake to have built her up so much, but considering she changed my life for the better, I don't regret much.
As for the MySpace thing, I can see how it might sound rediculous, but you might have misunderstood. When I realized she had deleted me, my heart sort of took a dive because I realized that something was wrong and that she was apparently no longer wanting to stick to the 'friends' plan. It was like she blocked my number or something, for example.. it's not as extreme, but similar.
@CBJ - I've tried thinking about it like that already, but I don't think it's the same thing. In your case, it makes perfect sense and it's obvious that you did what you did because you cared about her. When it comes to her though, I just don't see it at all. There's just no indication that it's like that.. it's like she cut me out of her life because she didn't want to deal with me anymore. She doesn't exactly show sympathy.. she just acts like she's frustrated, and it makes things worse. And if I tell her she's heartless, she says that it's just with me. I don't understand it..
But thanks for the suggestions and it's nice to know that someone else understands. Partying with friends has been helping, so I'm hoping that I'll be doing some of that this weekend. It gives me something to look forward to anyways.. makes things easier for the moment. Each day seems to be a tiny bit better.
FearHeldDear - June 22, 2007 02:28 AM (GMT)
I'm sorry, bro. There's not much that I can say that'll help, except maybe you should fill out a prescription for lots of this:
wraith shadow - June 24, 2007 03:42 AM (GMT)
There is not much to say except that sucks hard. I have had 8 relationships in my 13 years of life and only one lasted more than a month. But what I would do is completely try to romove her from your thoughts. Get rid of everything that reminds you of her. I can't say I really loved any body though other than my one family but not in the way you love your ex.