New stuff on one of the reason for me to buy a ps3.

http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006371.html

Wow, it looks incredible. The detail is amazing. But still, another year from now, haha.

I konw square is so bad with dates.

Here I post a link to the direct scans of Famitsu magazine.

http://www.ff-xiii.net/index.php?page=article&article=223

Looks really good. I'm looking forward to Versus XIII the most of the two.

Its a Final Fantasy game, its bound to be good. The screens looks great, I cannot wait for this game. I am more looking forward to FFXIII by default by this still looks awsome.

Wow, I may not like Final Fantasy, but damn that looks good.

Did you not play FF XII?

FF XII wasn't that bad..
Anyway those screens looks awesome, I can't wait for this game.

Yes. While it was the worst FF and I was bitterly disapointed with it, it is still a great game. I was disapointed becuase it just wasn't the game I wanted, I love FF for a reason and FFXII took all those elements away. However, if the game didn't say Final Fantasy XII on the front, it would be considered a amazing game.

Both games really do look amazing. Still, I think I'm looking forward to Versus more - just something about it seems more compelling. I just hope the in-game graphics are just as good... if not close.

Really can't wait for their release ...but having to wait a year? *sigh*

The reason I am more looking forward to FFXIII is its battle system. Versus is more of a 'hack and slash' with RPG element while FFXIII is turn based. I'm guessing FFXIII is not totally turn based but something along the lines of FFXIII judging from the trailer - which I somewhat disliked so I hope they change it a little.

I don't know why they are putting both games under the name FFXIII becuase both are totally different games, different battle systems, different story, different characters, different settings, so why not give one of them a different name? The only similarity is both stories are in some way influenced by 'The Crystal' which, by judging on FFIX, is the source of all life - hence the 'Fabula Nova Crystallis' which means the new tale of the crystal.

This looks about as horrible as any other non-XI FF. =/ I wonder when Square will start being original again.

That really looks great, can just someone explain me what Versus is?

Hmm? I don't know if you have played any other FF but FF XIII versus looks completly nothing like any other previous FF game.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is a new FF game which is part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis compilation. It story and gameplay differs to FFXIII.

When they stop making oodles of money from the crazy amount of people that buy into what they're already doing.

Can't say I've been following the game very closely (or the story elements) but its certainly shaping up to be a showcase title for the PS3.

They called both games final fantasy XIII because the games are in the same world. FF XIII is 1000 after FF XIII verus and some of the plot lines of FF XIII are explain in versus and the character from versus is a leyend in FF XIII, comprende.

No, it wasn't a great game by any means.

The only thing it succeeded in was making it's unique combat system work, otherwise it's storyline and characters were absolutely horrible by any game's standards.

Well, I suppose its unconfirmed. I have searched the internet and half of the time it says they are set in the same world and half say they are set on different worlds. Nothing about your '1000 year difference' thing though.

Yeah, Ok then :roll:

How many 10/10s is that?

how odd that was the first info i read about both FF, by the time of the square enix party 2007 i think. They also explain the role of FF agito for mobiles that is in the same world.

The only credible magazine that gave the game a perfect score is Faimetsu. You know what other game they gave a perfect score to? Nintendogs.

And I don't care what any jackoff magazine says, they grade games based on scale, meaning that if the game gets a 10 on graphics, a 10 on game play and a 6 on story, they rank the game as an 8.7. However, if that game is an RPG versus a dog simulation, then that 6 they gave on the story is way more considerable then the 10 they gave on the graphics.

An RPG is only as good as it's story, and it doesn't matter if it's gameplay is innovative or if it looks pretty, because if I don't care about what happens next I'm not going to bother playing.

God I'm psyched for these games.

Btw, FFXII was amazing. It wasn't as great as most story wise, but it found a way to captavate me that I can't even explain...it is the second most time I've ever spent on a single game...behind FFXI of course...I will never be able to beat that time...

I traded it in back to Gamestop a week after I bought it.

Well congratulations.

I know everyone has their own opinion but when there is that many people against you, your argument is automatically void. Be a sour grape if you will, but the majority of people thought the game was imense. Don't agree with them? So what. Its logical to think that the game is great if the majority think so.

As I said, I had played FFXI for a long time. To be honest my game time was over 400 days by the time I quit...thats not meaning I had the game for a lil over one year. I had it for three years and I sat at the computer for 400 days with all the minutes and hours added together.
I'm the type of guy that likes to perfect whatever I do. So thats what I loved the most about FFXII, that you could spend soooo much time doing the same thing over and over and over again. I just like being able to turn on some music and shut my mind off. So thats why I was able to put in the 200+ hours in FFXII.
Besides, out of all the games I've ever played, there were soooooooooo many more hidden things in that game. I was just blown away. Although I was pissed to find out later, that the ultimate weapon of the game is detirmened by something you do within the first five minutes...I found this out around hour 100 so I wasn't turning back.

Kinda humoring reading you saying that considering that you said pretty much the opposite in this thread:
http://mgsforums.com/index.php?showtopic=20142

I guess Nazi Germany had the right idea.

I guess Flo Rida really IS the best song that's out right now.

How foolish of me to not see that the majority is ALWAYS correct.

Also, lol on how you contradicted yourself, GOOD ONE.

Without turning this into a historical debate; the majority didn't vote for Hitler and his party. He got into power because the other parties couldn't work together.

I do agree with your main point though.

Germany loved Hitler, and he did get into power through the people's votes, it's only after they gave him enough power that events like the Night of a Thousand Knives occurred that gave him absolute power, however the fact is, at the time he was a loved and charismatic leader.

And yeah, that aside there are plenty of other examples to dismember his moot point with.

Hitler was not universially loved. It was the classic example of using other groups as scapegoats(Communists, Jews) that made the majority give him the benefit of the doubt and then wars began and it is extremely rare that leaders are overthrown by the public during a war.

Well the thing is, when you're a political leader, you are what your issues are.

Nobody says, gosh that Obama is a great guy, I'm gonna vote for him.

They say, wow Obama will do this and do that, I'm gonna vote for him.

Same with Hitler, he came out there, and he did use his scapegoats, he played on the patriotism of the German people and blamed the Jews for all their oppression, but the point is, that people got behind his message.

The German people were a proud people, and after World War 1 they had to endure years of poverty and suppression while England and the other countries rubbed it in their face and made them pay for everything.

Then Hitler came along, and he basically said, " You know what guys? Germany is the greatest country in the world, and Germans are the worlds greatest people. We have been wronged, and it's time for us to take our rightful place again." He blamed the Jews for their issues related to poverty. He effortlessly played the German people like an instrument, and they welcomed his rise to power with open arms.

I think we cannot forgot that people embraced Hitler, in fact when the Germans marched into Poland, they didn't meet any oppistion, they were welcomed with open arms, they welcomed Hitler into their country, they treated him like a hero.

He didn't use the War for power, he gained power through promising to make Germany an empire.

Actually, they do. I hear it very often, more from Republicans that are dissapointed in their party.

What they didn't know, and the majority didn't know until after the war, was the holocaust.

I know. I'm quite well versed in Germany's history being a half-German myself.

Well yes, never said the otherwise.

However, Germany never had more than 35% of the votes until the staged Reichtag fire which Hitler used to bolster the citizens' patriotism.(Hmm, this all sounds familiar)

HAHAHAno. Do you have any actual sources of this other than individuals who agreed with the Nazis? Can you actually provide proof that the Polish people as a whole wanted to see Hitler as their leader, themselves without any nationality and as second-class citizens, and their own government overthrown?

The matter of fact is that the Poles as a majority *hated* Hitler. They had finally gotten independance from Russia after WWII and then he came and made them their bitches, despite them fighting valiantly against the two most powerful nations at the time(Germany and Soviet Union).

Actually, he only said that he'd take back the lands that were taken from them, Austria, and Hungary in the earlier peace treaties; he never said anything about Russia or Western France or the Balkans. In fact, not even Mussolini found out about Operation Barbarossa until mere minutes before the attack on Russia was started.

Hm..I think Register has some type of homing system built into his body that attracts him to arguments. Roy does too. So like, when they collide..it's like an explosion of condescension, smug-ness and general cuntish-ness.

Anyywayyy..I really liked FF7 on my Ps1, but I never bought the games after that..I don't really know why, I went through a phase where I didn't really care about gaming so I lost interest. However, I will probably pick this up when it comes out..as long as it's got a good story i'll be happy.

Hm, you seem more knowledgeable then me in this area, so I digress. All I really remember are some old videos that I watched in US History about the rise of Nazi Germany and their role in World War 2, I just remember a video of Hitler marching into Poland and being hailed as a hero, so I guess I was mistaken and I made too much of an assumption on that part.

And I know the German people wearn't aware of the Holocaust, however I'd like to think they knew something was going on, and didn't really check it out in fear of more repercussion.

And while some people do vote based on the candidates likability, I'd like to think that the majority of it comes down to the issues.

Alrighty, lets end the history 'lesson' here...I know you are trying to get a point across here, but you keep using bad refrences so Reg is winning all the way.

It looks identical to Advent Children, looks great but the faces are a little too similar on some of them. Looks a really interesting game, lets hope it has a storyline and character depth like FF7 :D