Title: Rambo topic
Description: Soldier of Fortune... the movie
iAn - January 28, 2008 09:02 AM (GMT)
I just saw it. Its pretty awesome, I must say.
I have also been drinking alot of rum during the course of the night, but I am fairly certain that Rambo would have kicked ass regardless.
This movie has the most realistic gore you will ever see. Sure, the gung ho fighting style is a little hollywood, but the damage created from the weapons is amazing.
You want limbs being shot off and heads blown to smitherins, then this is the movie for you.
And having a person getting shot in half with a 50. cal machine gun is totally awesome. Intestines and everything.
Helikaon - January 28, 2008 09:14 AM (GMT)
I saw it yesterday too, I was lucky enough to see an advanced preview. Had to go into Wolvo to do it though, which I try to avoid doing whenever I can.
It was pretty awesome, it's brilliant for what it is and it doesn't try to be anything it isn't.
I especially liked the sniper and the stealth assault on the camp.
And of course John J Rambo doing what he does best and tearing Burmese soldiers limb from limb.
Disciple - January 28, 2008 07:18 PM (GMT)
This movie kicked ass. Loved every second of it.
The land mine deaths were awesome, especially the one involving the bow and arrow. B)
Roy Campbell - January 28, 2008 08:10 PM (GMT)
I haven't seen it yet becuase it doesn't come out until the 22nd Feb over here. I'm glad to hear it kicks ass, I loved the other three films and can't wait to see this one. All the gore may be a bit cheesy at times but we haven't had a film like this for ages and everyone needs a bit of films like this.
Gatsby - January 28, 2008 09:27 PM (GMT)
Probably the worst movie of all time.
I especially hated it's dialogue, plot, characters and action sequences.
It's dialogue was shit, it's characters were unlikable and so shallowly developed that you pretty much don't care when half of them blow up in the chaotic boring action sequences.
The final action scene was the most hilarious thing that I've ever seen in my life. I haven't laughed so much during a film since I last saw Airplane.
It was so cheesy, the flying limbs, Rambo turreting the stupid soldiers as they mindlessly charged him. Especially the part that featured the Doctor killing the soldier.
The part where the missle blew up had me in tears.
And before people say BUT GATSBY, RAMBO IS ABOUT ACTION, NOT INTELLIGENCE, then you prove that it's a bad movie even more.
Rambo is a horrible movie in every sense of the word.
It's screenplay sucks. The dialogue is horrible.
"RAMBO PLEASE LET US HAVE YOUR BOAT."
" NO LADY YOU CANT CHANGE NOTHING."
" YUH HUH."
"NO YOU CANT CHANGE WHAT IS."
"BUT WE CAN CHANGE WHAT CAN BE."
" OK LOL YOU CAN HAVE MY BOAT."
Good job there Sylvester.
Then with the plot. If you're making a film that's supposed to be about mindless action, that's fine. That exact formula, and that formula alone is why movies like 300 work so well.
However Rambo consisted of more then 30 minutes of flat out talking. Very boring, poorly written dialogue littered with forgettable characters and unremarkable situations.
I don't understand how anybody liked any of the action sequences involving the villagers.
WHOA COOL LOOK AT THOSE DEFENSELESS VILLAGERS GET RAPED AND PILLAGED, FUCK YEAH!
This is a horrible film, there's no getting around it. The fact that Rambo IV is a bad film is fact. There's no disputing it.
iAn - January 28, 2008 09:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 09:27 PM) |
| This is a horrible film, there's no getting around it. The fact that Rambo IV is a bad film is fact. There's no disputing it. |
Yes there is.
I retort with a:
Thats
your opinion.
And apparently
only yours.
So according to your logic... YOU have no taste in movies.
Apparently more than 4,000 people thought it deserved a 8.5/10.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462499/So I ask you this:
The movie is awesome. People love it. Now how do you back up your claim of calling it the worst movie ever?
And yeah... the village massacre scene wasn't supposed to be 'cool'. You have to be an idiot not to realize it.
jonhou - January 28, 2008 10:09 PM (GMT)
Well I haven't seen it yet, but I'm going to soon.
I don't think it will suck like someone;D. I do however not think that is going to be superb either. The other movies were popular yes, but I have seen better movies.
Gatsby - January 28, 2008 10:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (iAn @ Jan 28 2008, 09:44 PM) |
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 09:27 PM) | | This is a horrible film, there's no getting around it. The fact that Rambo IV is a bad film is fact. There's no disputing it. |
Yes there is. I retort with a: Thats your opinion. And apparently only yours. So according to your logic... YOU have no taste in movies. Apparently more than 4,000 people thought it deserved a 8.5/10. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462499/So I ask you this: The movie is awesome. People love it. Now how do you back up your claim of calling it the worst movie ever? And yeah... the village massacre scene wasn't supposed to be 'cool'. You have to be an idiot not to realize it. |
While your argument of ITS POPULAR SO ITS GOOD LOL, is very compelling, I'll wait until you can actually back up your opinion.
However it's good that with your logic, I can know that 50 cent and Kayne West are the epitome of talent and quality in the music industry.
Disciple - January 29, 2008 12:59 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 04:27 PM) |
Probably the worst movie of all time. |
So this comes under Tumbling Flesh Doll and the Guinea Pig series? :blink:
GreySnake - January 29, 2008 01:04 AM (GMT)
Haha, I'm actually excited to see this. It looks awesome.
I don't always need utterly-intriguing depth to my movies to enjoy them, Rambo should just be what they've always been.
Gatsby - January 29, 2008 02:09 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Disciple @ Jan 29 2008, 12:59 AM) |
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 04:27 PM) | Probably the worst movie of all time. |
So this comes under Tumbling Flesh Doll and the Guinea Pig series? :blink:
|
At least those movies aren't made with the intention of being good.
Rambo tries to be deep in his first half and then tries to be a generic action film in it's second half. And it fails at both.
Disciple - January 29, 2008 02:33 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 09:09 PM) |
| At least those movies aren't made with the intention of being good. |
So, that doesn't make them worse then Rambo? Psuedo torture films with the sole intention to shock, disgust, and horrify the veiwer isn't worse then a 'typical' action film? Some logic here...
Gatsby - January 29, 2008 03:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Disciple @ Jan 29 2008, 02:33 AM) |
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 09:09 PM) | | At least those movies aren't made with the intention of being good. |
So, that doesn't make them worse then Rambo? Psuedo torture films with the sole intention to shock, disgust, and horrify the veiwer isn't worse then a 'typical' action film? Some logic here...
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Well, there are different standards when it comes to good films.
What I look for in a good action film is different from what I look for in a good Drama.
And the content of a film doesn't make it bad.
Every hear of a film called Birth of a Nation? It's often regarded as a masterpiece of film by several high up film critics.
Know it's subject matter? It's about a group of white men saving their woman from the evil lustful black men who want only to rape them.
So of course, the film is racist propaganda, and it's message is horrible. However, as a film, when it comes to acting, filming. Just everything that people look for in a quality film, Birth of a Nation does right.
I'd say Rambo is in the same rank of exploitation films, I mean since it seems none of the people who liked it are interested in plot, I can only assume that people only wanted to see it so they could see Rambo murder other soldiers.
It matters not to the film maker nor to the fans that Rambo is deeply saddened by the actions he's forced to take, haunted by the fact that he's a killer. However he's only haunted by this until the last half of the film, then he kills 200 people and gets mellow again for the next film.
The first Rambo was an excellent film that explored Rambo's psyche as much as it provided great action.
These films only laugh in Rambo's face as he sheds tears over the horrors that he's seen and victory dances as Rambo disregards the first half of the movie in order to appease people looking for cheap thrills.
Disciple - January 29, 2008 03:22 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 10:02 PM) |
I'd say Rambo is in the same rank of exploitation films, I mean since it seems none of the people who liked it are interested in plot, I can only assume that people only wanted to see it so they could see Rambo murder other soldiers. |
Not necessarily.
At least there was a point to Rambo 'murdering' soldiers, whether it be to save others or himself (with reasons steming from the plot, no matter how poorly written you may veiw it). This is much more 'human', for lack of a better word, then just simply shoving a needle threw some one's eye, shaving some one's tongue with a potato peeler or fucking a bound women's stomach for no reason than other than to shock and disgust. There's a difference, as little as you may see it.
And yes I have heard of Birth of a Nation, though I have never seen it...
| QUOTE |
| It's often regarded as a masterpiece of film by several high up film critics. |
...and never want to... :rolleyes:
Solid Snake8 - January 29, 2008 03:38 AM (GMT)
I love Sylvester Stallone and I always WANT TO LOVE the movies he's in.. I loved all 5 Rocky's... I love Rambo: First Blood, and Rambo: First Blood Part Deux... (The third Rambo was no good in my opinion).
[spoiler]This new Rambo I wanted to love so badly, however, the acting was SO bad by everyone (with the exception of Sylvester Stallone who doesn't have to speak much anyway) that it was quite unenjoyable. Obviously, I wasn't expecting there to be great acting by anyone, but the main missionaries and mercenaries looked like the most experience they had in acting was the lead in a high school play.
I wanted more ass kicking by Stallone himself and I wanted it more spread out through the movie. Not a 3 minute scene at the very end where Rambo guns a lot of people down with the 50 caliber turret..
While the bloodshed was realistic, with one exception of the Barrett sniper rifle blowing a soldier back like 15 feet!? Are you kidding me!? The realistic killing just wasn't enough to save the entire film in my opinion.
[/spoiler]
Now obviously this is just my opinion, so take it as you may, but also keep in mind that I love Rambo.
Gatsby - January 29, 2008 03:44 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Disciple @ Jan 29 2008, 03:22 AM) |
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 10:02 PM) | I'd say Rambo is in the same rank of exploitation films, I mean since it seems none of the people who liked it are interested in plot, I can only assume that people only wanted to see it so they could see Rambo murder other soldiers. |
Not necessarily.
At least there was a point to Rambo 'murdering' soldiers, whether it be to save others or himself (with reasons steming from the plot, no matter how poorly written you may veiw it). This is much more 'human', for lack of a better word, then just simply shoving a needle threw some one's eye, shaving some one's tongue with a potato peeler or fucking a bound women's stomach for no reason than other than to shock and disgust. There's a difference, as little as you may see it.
And yes I have heard of Birth of a Nation, though I have never seen it...
| QUOTE | | It's often regarded as a masterpiece of film by several high up film critics. |
...and never want to... :rolleyes:
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Oh I've never seen Birth of a Nation either, nor have I seen other alleged masterpiece films like Citizen Kane, however I just respect the opinion of a lot of people who consider films a huge part of their lives often calling it a masterpiece.
I mean you could use the same argument to describe a Seven Seagull film. "He's just randomly combatting terrorists to save others." But he isn't, Sevean Seagull's character has the depth of a color book, he's combating terrorists so you can high five your friends and scream in glee about how awesome all the explosions are.
It's not really at the same extent with Rambo, however he still makes stupid decisions knowing full well what will happen. Over the course of two minutes he more or less falls in love with Sarah, to the point where he lets her take his boat knowing full well what may happen to her, they press onward. Then after Rambo kills 6 Pirates, he keeps pressing onward anyway just because that Sarah is just so gosh darn determined.
I mean, like the movie or not, you can't really argue about Rambo's depth. Nothing in that entire movie matters until the last 15 minutes where the final action scene happens. For most people at least, I personally liked the scene involving Rambo on the boat with the over mercenaries. And then the final scene when he actually went home.
However knowing the Rambo films, there will be a 5th movie where Rambo defends his father's horse ranch from a group of North Korean soldiers hellbent on stealing the horses for a fast method of transportation into a new city.
I can just imagine Rambo mounting a turret onto the back of a Black Stallion and riding it while firing at the unsuspecting Koreans.
Can't wait.
Disciple - January 29, 2008 03:50 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gatsby @ Jan 28 2008, 10:44 PM) |
However knowing the Rambo films, there will be a 5th movie where Rambo defends his father's horse ranch from a group of North Korean soldiers hellbent on stealing the horses for a fast method of transportation into a new city.
I can just imagine Rambo mounting a turret onto the back of a Black Stallion and riding it while firing at the unsuspecting Koreans. |
Though you were being sarcastic, that still sounds mildly entertaining.
iAn - January 29, 2008 09:10 AM (GMT)
God damn, I would love to see North Korean soldiers attacking Rambo's ranch.
Seriously.
Pricey - January 29, 2008 12:24 PM (GMT)
I think its pathetic how the UK has to wait a month more than the US. Why? I just dont get it. I mean, look at the release dates on the IMDB.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462499/releaseinfoWhy do non English countries get them first? Its depressing. And they wonder why people download films?
Gatsby - January 29, 2008 11:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (iAn @ Jan 29 2008, 09:10 AM) |
God damn, I would love to see North Korean soldiers attacking Rambo's ranch.
Seriously. |
I probably would too.
Roy Campbell - February 16, 2008 09:27 PM (GMT)
Sorry for the Bump but last night Sylvester Stallone was on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross. Jonathan Ross asked him if he would do another Rambo becuase he thinks the story could be added to and Sly then said he would love to do another Rambo. He said while he wouldn't do another Rocky film, Rambo is a character than doesn't come around to often and he would love to have the chance to play as him again.
So hopefully we might be seeing another Rambo film.
tsuchinoko finder - February 22, 2008 04:17 AM (GMT)
i loved this movie what i loved most was rambos no bullshit if we're going to kill each other the lets get on with it. no hesitation what so ever which is how it should be. in all action movies
drop rambo in north Korea and let him kill kim jong ills tiny ass!
Pricey - February 22, 2008 03:56 PM (GMT)
Seen it last night. Thought it was over too quickly really, and all the main action happened within about 15-20 minutes. Was good though.
monkeymaguire - February 23, 2008 04:05 PM (GMT)
it was over in a flash, sumthin real cheesy about it too haha, i love alll the rambo films and this is just as good, except it seems to be more serious again, not got the campness of the 3rd one, its more dark and eerie. i loved how violent and gorey it was, so chunky and realistic, haha hope to see another one!
Pricey - February 23, 2008 05:10 PM (GMT)
Rambo Time Crisis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPLPZ3cq-yYHaha.
(For those who have seen it)