I have been making various poetic thoughts on what is right and wrong recently.
I just have to talk about this. I can't keep it in.

You've all heard of good and evil,when you imagine these,you naturally imagine a devil and an angel. Or in various movies and cartoons. This is all a load of bullcrap.
I strongly believe darkness exsists now. I had to find out the hard way.
When I say this,I don't mean some devil or bullshit has taken over me. Go wise up.
Darkness is a part of everyone. It's inside in our soul and phisical body,it changes it's shapes and control over us all the time. It sinks in us in the worst times,and takes almost absolute control when you are careless. Imagine you get angry at someone and throw a swear at him. See? That's Darkness. But in it's lowest form. It's a power we must keep control of and retain inside us unless nececcary to use.
Now,for my personal meeting with it...
I was in school. I got heavily pissed off at a guy,and he didn't even do anything that wrong. Somehow the evil side rose up in me from the begining of the day and was awakened when the guy pissed me off a little bit. I overreacted unbelievably.
Before I knew it,I was punching the guy with brutal force. He was quite well build and thankfully isn't in very bad shape now. Anyway,while I was punching him,It didn't even feel like me,but I refused to admit that to myself.
The next moment,I was standing there,holding him,feeling as if something has slipped out of me,and thinking, ''Dear god...What have I done?!?''
I got into a lot of trouble for it,I was nearly expelled.
Thankfully It all went well because of my sincere apologies.
I've always been a very polite and good person,but something just arised in me.
Now I know,this thing called The Darkness exsists.
We should never let this thing come out. It will destroy us.
You may call me crazy or something along the lines of that,but I know,this is true,
Darkness exists in all of us. I hope my words have left a good morrow to you guys.
Don't get spooked out or anything,I just wanted to talk about it,since nobody was (my friends for example) were not interested.
So,you're thoughts on this would be highly appreciated.
(please no, ''lol you're a crazy maniac' or something like that,act serious -_- )

you crazy maniac, you!!! XD

But anyway, I know what you're talking about. I ave a rage that takes over now and then. But I can remember what I'm doing, and it's like my head is screaming not to do shit, but my heart forces me to.

I have a very unpredictable character, and my moods swing like crazy. One moment, I'm in the living room, reading a book, next thing I'm throwing stuff because someone interrupted me. Right before that happens, I can feel the tension building up in my body, yet before I try to calm myself, I have already jumped up.

This doesn't happen once every week, more like once every two months, yet I find it disturbing none the less.

I too belive everyone has a dark side, and if someone let it all out, things can go very wrong

No offense but you need serious help, blaming your actions on the so called "Darkness" is just a scapegoat to not have to deal with your problems you may want to see a counselor.

Try to hold the thing in,just before you're about to do something like that,stop and think for a second. Destroy the thing inside you.
I have had multiple situations were I was angry in the same way,but I was able to beat it,I just stopped and thought for a moment. I then quickly returned to my normal self.
You have to be aware that something like this is building up inside of you,and then conquer it with all your soul's power.

Trust me, I tried it.

I've spend years visiting shrinks and all, but I just can't help it.

Even he said that it was best to sometimes just give in, so that you can get over it more quickly.

(This doesn't apply to hurting people though)

I see,you may be right,but at least trying will make things better,just don't TOTALLY give into it.

I didn't know your problem would be so serious,though.
The best thing that would help is that you find a special someone,who can help you conquer your evil self. It will change things greatly, trust me. ^_^
Love is the best cure for this,things will instantly change and the dark side will be completely gone. Think about this for a while.

P.S. Thank you werthwile, you have now proved with your words that you are quite a shallow person. Congrats. (No offence)

Well, it's been a while since I've had a relationship, and to be honest, I don't miss it at all.

My temper rises just the same as when I had a relationship, perhaps that it took me longer to release the anger though, but I still released it none the less

You're probably just not very open and honest with yourself,I've seen that a lot. Don't act too tomboy-ish, if you feel something for someone just let it be. The reason the anger rises in you is because you refuse to admit how you truly feel.
Or maybe you just have bad luck with relationships,who knows.
Just never forget,being honest with both your partner and yourself=win.
Sorry if I sound too much like a teacher but things like that really annoy me,I'm just trying to help out.

I don't believe there is darkness within people. I just think people are fucked up.

The Darkness, it comsumes us all.....

Hey, don't take what wertwhile said lightly. The darkeness. Sorry, i'm not convinced by such voodo crap. I'm not an aggressive person, a lot of the time i'm pretty mellow, but I can at times get angry. I don't flip or go crazy but I get pretty pissed. This isn't the 'darkness' my friend, its just me getting pissed off becuase some bastard is fucking me off.

The fact that you think there is such a thing as Darkness which is evil is quite perplexing, I see no reason for there to be anything in the world that is truly 'evil', its all a matter of opinion.

I think someone has been playing too much Kingdom Hearts lately, and if you haven't - Why not?!

back in the day i was kind of ruled by this so caleed "Darkness" or i was just screwed up. Whichever you perfer i was. i hit people because a leader told me too. He called me his enforcer. When i moved to a new school I became nice and now i'm one of if not the nicest kid in my grade. Anytime i slip(swear, hit someone, etc) i usually apologize because i feel like crap afterwards so i don't that's why if you look at everyone of my 2000+ posts you won't see a cuss word put there by me :)

Its actually just called Puberty. Everyone goes through it.

But a select few are actually born pure psycopathic. I was pretty much a psychopath since birth. I mean, I didn't kill anybody... but boy did I daydream about it.

In elementary school, the teachers where worried that I was going to kill someone so they made me see the school 'shrink' regularly.

Then through middle and high school I fantasized about more killing and destroying the entire human race. Either that or send it back to the stone ages, where everyone becomes an animal to survive. (And I have not even seen Fight Club at this moment)

After seeing Fight Club, I became totally obsessed with it and I truly felt that Tyler Durden was based off of me. And I still do.

It was around high school when I became infatuated with Ogrish type stuff. I would surf the Ogrish forums till 4pm almost dailey. I would dream about going on shooting sprees and killing men, women, and children.

I remember this one dream I had where I walked over to my neighbor's house during thanksgiving dinner and slaughtered their entire family with a shotgun and a machete. I so vividly remember how great it felt to chop off and infant's head in one deft stroke while the whole family screamed in horror.

Heh. You gotta admit, thats one hell of a way to get the party going.



And now I buy knives and fantasize about killing people with them. I have studied Krav Maga for a few years now and I use my knowlegde of it's technique to build a realistic simulation of killing someone with a knife in my imagination.

I try to channel my imaginations torwards positive things like story making or classical figure drawing but its so so easy for me to just switch into my psycho mode.

But yeah. I wouldn't exactly call it 'Darkness'.

Its simply just pure evil.

^Sounds very interesting. Very, very interesting. Maybe we'll see you in the news some day?

If you are aware of it, I wouldn't call that psycopathic iAn. Sounds more like a craving for attension to me.

I know someone very similar to your description. What happened to him? Well he is now living a nice peaceful life, he's got a girlfriend, he's doing well at college and enjoying life.

Like you correctly put it, its called puberty, not psycopathic.

We'll see after he gets to the news.

How would it be called 'craving for attention' when I have never really told this to my friends, my peers, and my coworkers?

EDIT: and no, lol. you won't see me on the news. unless I make it big somehow in a completely legal way.

Dude,I thought I was bad... :huh:
I think Darkness excists,you can't change my opinion about it.
And yes,I have played Kingdom Hearts... >_>

whatever you want to call it it's just your emotions and hormones acting up,i don't believe any shit about the devil or god,or that there's a heaven or hell,knowone has a soul,it's just your brain functioning,weither you want to kill people or help them,it's all how you think,there is no good or evil,it's all how you want to act,people have different personaliltys because everyone's brain think's differently,wanting to put your foot in someone's face or wanting to just hurt a person doesn't make you evil,that's how you are,well i think that way,i doubt there's many other's who think the same,but i don't really care,you do what you want to do and everyone will do what they want to do :o

I think you have been playing too much of that game lol :D

Seriously though i guess your kind of right I think there is a part in everyone deep down thats evil.

Did big Tentacles appear out your shoulders and start devouring peoples hearts?

I don't think it's as in-depth as you suggest Johny. Or maybe I think your using the wrong words. I wouldn't say people have a "Dark side" per say. But more they can have a blind rage. More than likely the same thing I guess.

Anyway I'm a good guy to hold my temper, and living with 3 woman I'll tell you now pushes it too a limit. Surprised I'm not a little crazy muwhahahaha :lol: jk :D. Anyway back to topic.
I fear that some day something similar might happen, just have a crazy spell as I know I tend to bundle all my emotions. But for now I'm good :thumb:

Johnny, understand that these kind of feelings are completely natural to feel, and everybody has them in some shape or form, it's just some are better at hiding it than others – many also wouldn't be willing to admit they have such feelings. It isn't the "darkness", though; it's merely the depth of our mentality. It's true, how it makes you think is 'dark' and 'twisted', but that doesn't mean it's something supernatural or whatever the case may be; it's all you, in the end.

I, myself, have many twisted and dark thoughts... but that's how we all are whether people want to admit it or not. It wasn't until I watched an anime called Neon Genesis Evangelion that I truly began to understand my emotions and psychology. It kind of feels like that show was made just so I could watch it; after all, I can relate so damn heavily to it. Even so, coming to terms with the truth both in myself and of the world sent me spiraling into depression that continues to exist today.

In life, you will notice that you do some things almost sub-consciously; like when you attacked that guy, you literally let your inner self and desires take over. It's like animal instinct – you have it to protect yourself and get through life for yourself. In essence, everything you do in life is for yourself in some way. Even seemingly selfless acts of benevolence are all to satisfy yourself, in the end. It's the way we are.

Nevertheless, you can't go around blaming your impulse reactions on the "darkness" or whatever. You have to accept these feelings inside of yourself and come to terms with what you feel. You're gonna find out sooner or later that this is going to be the only way to properly deal with the issue. You can't just bury these feelings, because only then do they start building up until you spontaneously explode by doing something incredibly bad. Emotions can't just be hidden... it really isn't that simple.

You call it "The Darkness", I call it anger. I get pissed off like that as well, but I'm seriously always able to control it. Sometimes I lash out and say things I know I shouldn't, but I never use physical force unless I know for sure it's absolutely necessary. It's all a matter of how good you can control your emotions.

I seriously thought before I came into this topic that it was going to be something about being afraid of the dark, lol. Glad I was wrong.

The video game's not so bad, though :)

Geez,let's get something straight here, I'm not saying there's something supernatural inside of us,this dark feeling is merely an emotion,like love ,sorrow,and joy. Perhaps none of you understood me the way Metal_girl_solid did.
This dark thing is just a crapload of emotions that build up inside you until it spills ouy everywhere. It's not some kind of evil twisted demon,it's something spiritual and phisical. I say it is like a power because if it was an everyday emotion I would just ignore it. But it's just more than that.


P.S. Kingdom Hearts was mediocre at best.

I just call it "The Evil Within" darkness is a area where you cant see anything not an emotion. Same with using Light as an emotion say pure or good. This is why i hate emo poetry "The darkness swallowed me" what a load of crap.

I must admit though it feels good when you let your "evil" out. This one guy stole this chick I had a crush on and when he told me I punched him right out. Half because he stole that chick half because of everything else I had gotten pissed off at lately.

No no no. Not you telling people about it is a craving for attention, you're actions and thoughts are a cry for attention.

:o

Lol Johny put your last post into my other post and you got what you said. A bundle up of emotions just burst out, just crappy emotions you ignore? Eh?

Whoa, wha- whaat? Thoughts are cries for attention? Ok, cool.

Yeah, that kind of confused me as well.

Uhhhh . . . for something to be a cry for attention, it actually has to be heard. He's not craving attention if he doesn't tell anyone about it, or act out in front of someone and I believe I'm correct in assuming that the only reason he talks about it on MGSF because we're complete strangers who don't know him in real life so it's just a good medium to get things out and not bottle them up.

So yeah, I'd rethink that statement.

If u bottle up ur anger ( a unhealthy thing to do) It has to come out sometime. Unfortunetly I have somewhat the same problem. We all have a problem u just have to vent it out in small burst.

No...just No.... I have these things happened to me sometimes. But it's just anger...anger, aggression, hormones perhaps?

But don't blame it on some unseeable thing. It's just the people.

yeah..very true. You can't blame anything on anyone(thing) other than urself) U can say that people or things in this case made u angry but essentialy it's ur fault. We all have our faults and our problems and u just need to know how to deal with them

Yes...Yes...very true. If there was any "darkness" it would be that we can't recognize that we control all of our actions....nothing else.

watch 24 hours of a christmas story, same deal.

it's not darkness, there's no external force outside of ur actions, it's just unkept rage, and whether u believe it or not, anger has to be dealt with because bottling it up is like shaking a 2 liter of coke for hours on end, u can hold it back all you want but sooner or later it will explode out of u an shit like this will be the outcome.

there's anger management there's books on healthy ways to deal with ur anger, its not hopeless when ur angry.

but don't kid urself, this was entirely u and no one else, so don't try and pin it on darkness, because ur definition of darkness is just u just snapping an taking it out on someone who didn't deserve it.

Jesus how many times do I have to say it-
The darkness in not another entity.
It's a part of us,It's not a monster,nor demon.
The only way to truly explain is that it's a part of us.
It's not exactly a power,not some freakish thing,ect.
Another good way to explain it is that It's a combination of emotions .
It may be just puberty as you say,but I find it more than that.
Argue if you wish,but this is just what I think,you can't change my mind about it.

I warned the jedis that you'd turn to the dark side. =(

I've never felt like I was trapped in darkness, though. Maybe I'm just weird for never living in blackness?

This 'Darkness', doesn't exist, everyone has had really evil thoughts, for example when I was younger I had a conversation with a friend about the sickest thing you could imagine doing, we both agreed that swinging a baby by its ankles into a brick wall would be one of them. It went through my mind for ages after, and still fleets through when I think of it, but I never wanted to do it, I just kinda winced when I played it through my head.

This 'Darkness' is probably that, I first had those thoguths when I was about 13, so its probably puberty etc, but I never had it on a high level such as what you an iAn have described, at least not consciously. For you, it might be triggered into action by jealousy, frustration, things like that which might get on your nerves, now actually attacking that guy as you did, I call that lack of self control. You need to sort it out mate, if you let thoughts like that become actions you need to start resisting them and start finding something better to spend your time thinking about. I think it's safe to say iAn hasn't acted on any of his odd thoughts, and frankly some of them shocked me a bit, now you should perhaps ask him about it or find something to do to take these thoughts out of your head and gain a little self control.

spare me, there is no darkness. you had it right the first time, a combination of emotions, that's all it was. some people just snap, like you did. i don't intend to really change your mind no matter how ridiculous a notion it may be, but i just think your kidding yourself, no matter what you think darkness may or may not be.

I respect your opinion,if that's the way you truly think.
What's good about debates is that everyone has their own theory and/or speech.
I just think that this thing exists,you don't,and that's still great.
The fact that everyone has different opinions makes this crazy world of ours more interesting.