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Title: Spider-Man 3
Description: What did you like ?


doubleo sigint - April 6, 2008 12:52 AM (GMT)
I've just recently watched Spider-Man 3 on DVD again and thought the film has it's share of faults but it also has great parts aswell.
Any topic that has something to do with Spider-Man 3 in this forum always has countless people gunning it down.
So I just wanted to know what people liked about this film because there must be something whether it be the action scenes or whatever. Your not aloud to flame the film just say what you liked in the film.

solidfox - April 6, 2008 12:57 AM (GMT)
I thought it did a decent job of wrapping the trilogy up. While the movie was indeed a let down, I still enjoyed it quite a bit. I truly can't recall the parts that I liked a lot off the top of my mind atm, cause I haven't watched it in a bit. But overall I still found it to be an enjoyable film for those who didn't over hype it or don't continually try to compare it to the comics and what they wanted of it.

Helikaon - April 6, 2008 01:02 AM (GMT)
The end credits! *badumtish*

Nah, I'll play along. The score was pretty good, one of the best I've heard in superhero movies, as was the casting of Sandman and Eddie Brock, Gwen Stacy was pretty close to the original as well. I also liked the gratuitous shots of New York City.

Also the symbiote was pretty cool, except for the fucking webs still on the suit...

doubleo sigint - April 6, 2008 01:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Helikaon @ Apr 6 2008, 01:02 AM)
The end credits! *badumtish*

Nah, I'll play along. The score was pretty good, one of the best I've heard in superhero movies, as was the casting of Sandman and Eddie Brock, Gwen Stacy was pretty close to the original as well. I also liked the gratuitous shots of New York City.

Also the symbiote was pretty cool, except for the fucking webs still on the suit...

I thought the webs on the symbiote suit made it more believable and realistic.
And how can you say Topher Grace was good casting for Eddie Brock no way first of all he's just way too skinny and funny. Eddie Brock is only cocky when he wears the symbiote suit in the comics.
As much as i like Topher Grace i think Eddie would have been better if he was played by someone else. Topher Grace would have made a good Peter Parker though.

solidfox - April 6, 2008 01:27 AM (GMT)
I know Venom is normally different...but a lot of things in the movies are different. So this Eddie is the movies own version of him. So in that aspect I believe he did a great job in the role. Now compared to the comics and show I say he would've done a better job as a Carnage then a Venom...although Carnage was bat shit crazy...

Helikaon - April 6, 2008 02:07 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (doubleo sigint @ Apr 6 2008, 01:16 AM)
And how can you say Topher Grace was good casting for Eddie Brock no way first of all he's just way too skinny and funny. Eddie Brock is only cocky when he wears the symbiote suit in the comics.

Brock only became bulky after he was bonded with the suit. In his first appearances he was slim and skinny, not the hulking brute that he became after he became Venom. It was a huge part of his character, he felt jealous of stronger men, case in point Peter Parker. However the actor wasn't the reason he was cocky (which again, in the original comics; he was sarcastic with JJJ and Peter long before he ever bonded with the symbiote) that was the script, which you'll notice isn't amongst my short list of things I liked from S3.

doubleo sigint - April 6, 2008 03:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (solidfox @ Apr 6 2008, 01:27 AM)
I know Venom is normally different...but a lot of things in the movies are different. So this Eddie is the movies own version of him. So in that aspect I believe he did a great job in the role. Now compared to the comics and show I say he would've done a better job as a Carnage then a Venom...although Carnage was bat shit crazy...

Yes Topher would have made a great carnage. Harry, Norman, and Sandman where pretty close to the source material characters i mean sandman even had the stripy green top for crying out loud.
They even had the church bells where Eddie got his powers

I mean they could at least give Topher a working out scene.

I think the guy who played Sandman would have made a better Eddie Brock and Venom.

I never read the early scenes with Eddie Brock in the comics so i'll have to take Heli's word for a skinny Eddie Brock exsisting but.....

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Brock only became bulky after he was bonded with the suit.


If your referring to the comics, not true i specifically remember someone (i think Spidey) saying in one issue comparing Eddie and Carnage that the reason Carnage was so skinny off to Venom was because Eddie used to always work out which led him to his muscular appearance as Venom.
Basically if Eddie was to wear the Carnage symbiote suit Eddie would still be huge and if the Venom suit was to jump on Cletus Cassidy he would still be skinny i don't think the symbiotes alters size.
If you were referring to the film forget about it.

WHiTeFaLCoN - April 6, 2008 10:39 AM (GMT)
A lot of sites and magazines bad mouth SM3, which pisses me off. It wasn't the best of the three, but it wasn't crap.

doubleo sigint - April 6, 2008 02:19 PM (GMT)
I thought the rise of the Sandman sequence was the greatest piece of CGI i've ever seen but no one seems to mention it.

snakeinthegear - April 6, 2008 02:59 PM (GMT)
To whitefalcon, yes it was crap.

To doubleosigint, dude, you need to watch more movies. There are plenty of movies that have CGI that put all the cgi in all 3 spidey movies to shame. One that comes to mind is the first Jurrasic Park movie. The CG in Transformers also blasts the CG in spidey all the way to hell.

Anyway, to answer the question, there are only 2 good thing about sm3...

1) The spidey vs sandman armoured van fight scene

2) The fact that the movie ended and boring, unenthusiastic Tobey Maguire won't be returning for the next spidey movie.

Solidcon - April 6, 2008 07:22 PM (GMT)
Venom. For ten minutes.

That's all I'll say regarding...that.

doubleo sigint - April 6, 2008 07:50 PM (GMT)
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To doubleosigint, dude, you need to watch more movies. There are plenty of movies that have CGI that put all the cgi in all 3 spidey movies to shame. One that comes to mind is the first Jurrasic Park movie. The CG in Transformers also blasts the CG in spidey all the way to hell.



Yes the CG in TF was amazing but you need to watch the sandman sequence again it's not just the CG that made it only, it was the great score with it as well.

iAn - April 7, 2008 04:42 AM (GMT)
Watching Sandman slowly rebuild himself in High Definition on a 50inch HD TV.

It was an alright movie. They just tried to put too much into it. Spider-Man 2 was a masterpiece, though.

snaker - April 7, 2008 11:21 AM (GMT)
I think it was a good movie, the ending especially, it had feewing.

WHiTeFaLCoN - April 7, 2008 05:18 PM (GMT)
The Sandman sequence was amazing! So was the appearance of Venom in the church!

RossSP - April 7, 2008 06:28 PM (GMT)
I'm a sucker for a good action sequences, so I liked the fights in it. But I still feel they overcrammed it. They should have left tha appearance of Venom 'til the fourth film because I liked how they worked Sandman into the story. If they make a fourth one, they need to put Carnage and/ or The Lizard in it.

doubleo sigint - April 7, 2008 07:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (RossSP @ Apr 7 2008, 06:28 PM)
I'm a sucker for a good action sequences, so I liked the fights in it. But I still feel they overcrammed it. They should have left tha appearance of Venom 'til the fourth film because I liked how they worked Sandman into the story. If they make a fourth one, they need to put Carnage and/ or The Lizard in it.

Venom should come back, i know he got blown up but i'd like to think the symbiote protected him.
As much as i liked Sandman it should have been just harry and venom in spidy 3.

Helikaon - April 7, 2008 08:08 PM (GMT)
No way. Neither Franco nor the script could have supported the New Goblin through the entire film, it would have just been a rehash of the first film. Sandman was required, but linking him to the Uncle Ben stuff was most definitely not. The entire point of Uncle Ben dying to some random punk was that Peter had the chance to stop it, but he didn't because he was selfish and arrogant. Venom as evidenced by the finished product wouldn't have added much beyond a half arsed fanwank.

I think Lizard should be in a fourth film. I also think it should be a complete reboot. New cast, new crew and new storyline. Raimi did a good job, but it's time for someoneelses interpretation.

doubleo sigint - April 7, 2008 08:38 PM (GMT)
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No way. Neither Franco nor the script could have supported the New Goblin through the entire film, it would have just been a rehash of the first film. Sandman was required


Venom and Harry would have been enough, the reason Venom's storyline was so shit was because they had to make room for Sandman. If the film was more concentrated on Eddie's and Peter's relationship and the black suit it would have been a lot better and Venom would have longer than a 5 minute fight at the end.


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Venom as evidenced by the finished product wouldn't have added much beyond a half arsed fanwank.


He didn't add much because Sam, the script and Topher Grace didn't add much Venom deserves a lot more, there's a reason he's the most popular villain in the Spider-Man universe.


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I think Lizard should be in a fourth film. I also think it should be a complete reboot. New cast, new crew and new storyline. Raimi did a good job, but it's time for someoneelses interpretation.


I agree with that but who are they gonna find as good as/better than Sam and not completely fuck it up?

snakeinthegear - April 9, 2008 03:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (doubleo sigint @ Apr 6 2008, 07:50 PM)
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To doubleosigint, dude, you need to watch more movies. There are plenty of movies that have CGI that put all the cgi in all 3 spidey movies to shame. One that comes to mind is the first Jurrasic Park movie. The CG in Transformers also blasts the CG in spidey all the way to hell.



Yes the CG in TF was amazing but you need to watch the sandman sequence again it's not just the CG that made it only, it was the great score with it as well.

It was a good scene BUT when you have a 60" HG tv screen, it's easier to see how flawed the cg animation is. Don't get me wrong, it's not terrible but it is by no means anything to brag about imo. What made that scene was the score that appealed to the emotions of the audience.

With regards to venom, ugh he's more overrated than the GG. I've been waiting for marvel to kill his ass off for 20 years and thank God Sam Raimi managed to do something right in having the balls to kill off such a ridiculously overrated character. We won't be seeing venom and an even bigger no to Carnage. Venom was barely done right and Carnage has no business being in a pg-13 movie.

as for sm4, the villains should be, the lizard and kraven.

Helikaon - April 9, 2008 05:53 PM (GMT)
I dunno, Kraven seems a bit camp and cartoonish. A big guy running around in a waistcoat and pants. But then again the Green Goblin is camp as fuck and that was pulled off brilliantly.

Sn4ke23 - April 9, 2008 06:31 PM (GMT)
I liked Venom near the end and I also loved Peter Parker going emo and dancing down the streets. lol

doubleo sigint - April 9, 2008 06:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sn4ke23 @ Apr 9 2008, 06:31 PM)
I liked Venom near the end and I also loved Peter Parker going emo and dancing down the streets. lol

Wow you liked the parts that made everyone else hate the film lol.

Sn4ke23 - April 9, 2008 06:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (doubleo sigint @ Apr 9 2008, 06:33 PM)
QUOTE (Sn4ke23 @ Apr 9 2008, 06:31 PM)
I liked Venom near the end and I also loved Peter Parker going emo and dancing down the streets. lol

Wow you liked the parts that made everyone else hate the film lol.

People hated that part? Seriously? My god...Peter Parker turning emo was one of my favorite parts...I have a gif image in my PB account of him flipping his emoish hair back. Lol, it's funny. And how he changed his personality towards Mary Jane and stuff...it was awesome.

snakeinthegear - April 13, 2008 02:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Helikaon @ Apr 9 2008, 05:53 PM)
I dunno, Kraven seems a bit camp and cartoonish. A big guy running around in a waistcoat and pants. But then again the Green Goblin is camp as fuck and that was pulled off brilliantly.

You've never read kraven's last hunt have you? Kraven is one of the least cartoonish of spidey's rogues gallery.
I'd love to see kraven the hunter, a man of russian nobility who tokes up on potions and chemical formulas to take on lions and other wild beasts and comes to NY to take down both the lizard and spider-man. If anyone can write this and make it work, it's vanderbilt. He wrote the awesome zodiac. As for GG, his costume was executed horribly. He looked like a power ranger reject. Had they gone for a costume that is more along the lines of the look of an ork from the LOTR movies, I'd agree with you.




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