Title: Depression...
Description: Advice?
Wilson - April 24, 2008 07:44 PM (GMT)
I suffer from depression. I take medication, but it doesn't seem to work. Anyone got any advice.
Thanks, Wilson.
The Black Devil Of Outer Heaven - April 24, 2008 07:46 PM (GMT)
Is it triggered by anything especially?
Symptoms?
Wilson - April 24, 2008 07:54 PM (GMT)
Well, I have OCD. Tis triggered by that, partly.
Symptoms/ Feeling teribly pathetic and low. I just feel like everyone hates me and feel worthless.
The Black Devil Of Outer Heaven - April 24, 2008 08:14 PM (GMT)
Man......OCD is a bitch. Triggered when you can't do your routine I'm assuming?
I don't know what to say about that man. If your taking medication......
White&Nerdy - April 24, 2008 08:32 PM (GMT)
I suffer from it as well, OCD that is, I'm telling you its a huge pain in the ass. It started about last year when I got so worked up about doing well in my exams and it kind of escalated. I would go into details but its kind of retarded.
BigBoss14 - April 24, 2008 08:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wilson @ Apr 24 2008, 07:44 PM) |
I suffer from depression. I take medication, but it doesn't seem to work. Anyone got any advice.
Thanks, Wilson. |
have you talked to your psychiatrist??? You might need stronger medication.
Shyne-Bryght - April 24, 2008 08:47 PM (GMT)
Sorry to hear it Wilson, you're quite young too, and one of the last I'd expect to suffer from depression, you always seem enthusiastic and pretty joyful to me :D
xAlwaysOpenMouthx - April 24, 2008 10:52 PM (GMT)
What medication are you on?
Wilson - April 25, 2008 07:58 AM (GMT)
@ Black Devil Of Outer Heaven
The depression is simplycaused by the stress that OCD brings me.
@White and Nerdy
Sorry to hear you suffer from it too
@BigBoss14
yeah, but they don't seem to think I need any more than I am already on.
@Shyne-Bryght
hehe, thanks for the kind words, mate. :)
@AlwaysOpenMouth
Fluoxitine.
Thanks or the support, guys.
Tamashi_7 - April 25, 2008 08:31 AM (GMT)
Depression can be a bitch - but so are most things in life.
Personally, depression has helped me realise many things. Depending on why you're depressed, you can learn a lot from the states of mind you go through. It's upsetting, but facing the hash realities of life will only do you justice, in the end. If you can get through your depression, you'll be a stronger person.
Just think of it this way: you view the world more truthfully than people without this mental disorder. Like it or not, people will go through this sooner or later in life - at the point when their life has seemingly gotten too hard - so you're just maturing early, in a way.
To be honest, I'm depressed, but sick of discussing it... I don't know. Just seems everybody is depressed in their own little way. We're all weak and miserable... but we somehow keep on living - the fear of death helps there, I guess.
In any case, stay strong.
monkeymaguire - April 25, 2008 09:04 AM (GMT)
What sort of depression do u suffer from? i went to a psychiatrist a few months back who diagnosed me with..well i cant remember the name, but its like a depression where u dont want to admit it, wen ur out with ur mates u hide it but wen ur alone ur miserable, or theres the other type where u iscolate ur self and try and get through it alone or watever? but yeah, she suggested changing what i do, she made me realise that the life i was leading at the time was wat was making me depressed, i was stuck in a job i didnt like, taking drugs and holding onto love that wasnt happening, i quit my job and started college, ive stopped taking drugs (except at mushroom season) and i let go of the girl(s) i thought i loved and that where holding me back from stuff. and now i feel good, college is great and i met a load of amazing new friends too. i duno, maybe u should try and pinpoint what it is thats making u depressed, unless u dont know wat it is... then in that case sorry im no help, hope u feel better soon
iAn - April 25, 2008 03:26 PM (GMT)
How old are you Wilson?
Are you in school? Do you have a job?
Cardboard Box Junkie - April 26, 2008 12:22 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| have you talked to your psychiatrist??? You might need stronger medication. |
Great idea. We don't know what the problem is exactly, or how to fix it, so lets just throw some more pills down his throat to dope him up and mask the problem even more.
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My suggestion, you need to be really introspective. Think about your depression, i.e what makes you depressed, what kind of situations do you feel worse in than others. Once you've identified your triggers, it can be so much easier to watch out for them, acknowledge that "okay, I've just started feeling depressed now because this happened. What can I do to stay out of that kind of situation in the future?". Talk to a professional, sure. But talk to them. Don't allow them to just chuck you on some medication, or boost it up because it doesn't help, it hides the real problem beneath. Only go on medication or change it if you believe that you need to and least get a couple of medical opinions on it. People I love have lost fucking years that they could have been getting better and working on their problems because they were so doped up and could barely think clearly.
Research and thinking is my best advice. Look up stuff about your illness, what can cause it, methods to fight it, all that sort of thing. Be proactive and you'll get out of it. Even the act of being proactive about it can be very therapeutic, if you're doing something about it you feel more positive because progress is being made, you're taking the initiative to get better and by wanting to do that and doing it, you feel better.
But yeah, keep at it man. You'll get there.
xAlwaysOpenMouthx - April 26, 2008 05:23 AM (GMT)
Well, Wilson.
I don't really know you.
But I send you my prayers. And I'm not normally the praying type.
Good luck getting over that depression!
It IS a total bitch!
Good luck man!
Tamashi_7 - April 26, 2008 06:24 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xAlwaysOpenMouthx @ Apr 26 2008, 05:23 AM) |
Well, Wilson. I don't really know you. But I send you my prayers. And I'm not normally the praying type. Good luck getting over that depression! It IS a total bitch! Good luck man! |
The guy is after advice, not well wishes and prayers.
Amazing how you wish him all the luck from the deepest pits of your heart, but you won't give him actual suggestions on how to help him. I mean, hell, you can wish him all the luck in the world, but that really doesn't change a damn thing - advice would actually be helping to solve the problem, though.
Acts like this just seems a little sad from my perspective is all.
Wilson - I have to say, as well, if you really want us to help you with you're problems, you're going to have to give us more information. Simply saying that you're depressed because of OCD doesn't tell us much, at all. I don't know, maybe you want to keep the majority of this personal, but I'm just saying that if you really do want us to help you, you're gonna have to dig deeper to help us to understand.
In any case, I would highly recommend what CBJ has said - simply thinking about the situation and breaking it down in your head to isolate the problem seems like the most appropriate solution. After all, once you know what triggers these depressive states of mind, you can prevent it.
xAlwaysOpenMouthx - April 26, 2008 06:32 AM (GMT)
God damn dude. My advice probably wouldn't be good for him. But fine, here's mine. Don't take medication. Just talk to somebody. Start, or do more things that keep your mind off of anything that you obsess about. Like knitting or sewing or making shit out of clay. That helped me. I've never heard of anything that's good about taking medication. Fluoxetine and many, if not all, other depressants can cause severe memory and motor function problems. Some can even cause a sort of dementia at a much younger age. That's why I freaking hate psychiatrists. All they think is that medication is the answer. Try a psychologist. They talk you through your problems much more in depth than a psychiatrist and they use medication as a last resort after trying every other method available.
Tamashi_7 - April 26, 2008 06:43 AM (GMT)
See? That wasn't so hard... and it's much better than just saying 'I wish you luck'.
You're advice isn't as bad as you think, though, you actually make a valid point - medication is just hiding you're true emotions about things; we shouldn't have to take drugs to solve our probelms. Talking to a professional can only help, as well. Then occupying yourself with activities that make you happy or just chill you out as opposed to stressed and depressed is obviously better.
So yeah, it's good. If it wasn't, the only thing which would happen is somebody would say 'No, I don't think that's such a good idea' - which is, you know, meh.
Wilson - April 26, 2008 09:18 AM (GMT)
I do talk to the psychiatrist, and have been doing so for over a year now, but it doesn't help. I just feel like I am going round in circles.
One of the main reasons for the depression is the OCD's symptoms, like having to keep deleting a MGS file because I am convinced that I did something wrong on it ie. kill Meryl, which means a continue. I also get other thoughts that are quite ridiculous, but really don't want to go into them. But I mainly just feel useless and bored, tired and frustrated and especially angry. I am 14 years old, by the way, 15 in May.
Thanks for the help, guys.
The Black Devil Of Outer Heaven - April 26, 2008 05:06 PM (GMT)
Well, It's really hard to give advice on something you've never experienced before, and I hate to be hypocritical. But I will say that Carboard and the rest of these guy's are pretty smart, so I'd follow that path. And I'm sorry that you have to go through that at such a young age. Hopefully it'll turn out fine. Advice? Just see professionals, talk to your parents. Figure stuff out, i know it's hard to do that becuase you get even more depressed, but I think it's something you need to do.
solidfox - April 26, 2008 05:33 PM (GMT)
There is hope. I myself had OCD as a child. Not horribly bad, but it was there. And somehow...I grew out of it as I got older.
Depression medications are a lie imo. They've never worked for me, and most of em just are to make you tired so you sleep most the day...can't be depressed when your asleep I guess they figure.
In the end, there is no real cure and there aren't any magic words that can ease it up. Talking about it does help. To friends and family can be hard, but strangers such as the net is easier. Same as a pysch, which I do monthly. It may cost a bit but it is well worth it. Is amazing how better you feel after leaving a season.
Wishing you the best of luck.
FaizanKauser - April 26, 2008 07:50 PM (GMT)
Well atleast your birthday is coming up, hope you have a good one on that day.
Null - April 29, 2008 05:52 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wilson @ Apr 26 2008, 09:18 AM) |
I do talk to the psychiatrist, and have been doing so for over a year now, but it doesn't help. I just feel like I am going round in circles. One of the main reasons for the depression is the OCD's symptoms, like having to keep deleting a MGS file because I am convinced that I did something wrong on it ie. kill Meryl, which means a continue. I also get other thoughts that are quite ridiculous, but really don't want to go into them. But I mainly just feel useless and bored, tired and frustrated and especially angry. I am 14 years old, by the way, 15 in May.
Thanks for the help, guys. |
Answer me this, these thoughts that you think are ridiculous..are they things like;
''If I don't touch that table now, I'm going to die''
''If I don't miss that step, someone close to me is going to die''
etc.?
Samuraisedge18 - May 5, 2008 01:33 AM (GMT)
first let me state that it's hard to give advice to someone when involving mental illness without mentioning faith. but i understand. people don't want to be told to turn to God and read the bible. so i won't touch on that now.
i have a touch of ocd but a lot of it is mental, which is still considered ocd. hence obsessive. like you said you have absurd thoughts. at some point it did bother me so i can understand completely how it could consume someone's life.
depression is debiliting. i know. taking medication sucks. in a way we're robbed of certain emotions in certain situations. but i do think that it's neccesary. and i am the las person tho say to take medication and everything will ok. afew moths ago i went off of two of three medicaions i was on(under psychiatrists instructions). i was doing fine just taking the anti depressant. but about 6 weeks ago i had a panic attach and the anxiety lingered so i went back on the other medications. it sucks because seroquel makes you so tired that when it kicks in you can't even fight staying awake. i hate that feeling of having a medication control something like sleep. even when i wake up i'm tired.
sorry if i went on about myself too much. i did so because i feel that you may be able to relate to some of my experiences and you may benefit somehow. keep talking to a therapist. make sure that they are down to earth. aslo make sure that they understand you're problems. it is good if a therapist tells you things you can do to help cope. even little things. but really make sure they understand you.
and if you don't like the medication you're on talk to the doctor who prescribes it to you as well as your therapist. don't hold anything back. tell them exactly how the meds make you feel. if both of you agree then maybe you could go off of it. maybe try another medication but accept that medication helps but it doesn't cure the illness. come to terms with and accept that you'll have to live with it.
i'm sorry that you're only 14/15 and have to suffer from this. that's when my problems started. i won't say good luck because i don't want to hear it from tamashi so try and stay strong and think about how you can help yourself and help the people in your life to understang you so they can help you.
a good book to read is man's search for meaning by viktor frankl. look it up. he survived the concentration camps and he talks about how you can accept hardships and suffering.
Wilson - May 5, 2008 01:22 PM (GMT)
@ Null
Nah, stupider than that. Something more mental than physical.
@everyone
Thanks for the advice, guys.
The Black Devil Of Outer Heaven - May 5, 2008 01:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wilson @ May 5 2008, 07:22 AM) |
@everyone
Thanks for the advice, guys. |
No problem man. :P I know other's gave better advice than me though. :lol:
Keep us updated on how your doing man. :thumb:
......but don't whine about it either.....:P
Wilson - May 5, 2008 01:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The Black Devil Of Outer Heaven @ May 5 2008, 01:33 PM) |
| QUOTE (Wilson @ May 5 2008, 07:22 AM) | @everyone
Thanks for the advice, guys. |
No problem man. :P I know other's gave better advice than me though. :lol:
Keep us updated on how your doing man. :thumb:
......but don't whine about it either.....:P
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Will do. :thumb:
And no, I won't whine about it. :lol: But I will kill people! :guns:
FaizanKauser - May 5, 2008 03:46 PM (GMT)
Dont kill me iam too young :(
Splitter Snake - May 17, 2008 04:44 AM (GMT)
Just wishing you look bro, I suffer from anxiety which is pretty closely related to depression so I have an idea of how you feel, though my medication seems to have helped, I'm sorry to hear yours hasn't yet.