Hey guys.

Now the topic discussion's title may suggest im a noob (i am to these forums) but i have been following this series since Metal Gear Solid 1 and i seem to think i know quite a bit about them all. Now for the topic i was wondering if anybody knows why Snake was specifically chosen for this mission? I searched the trailers and all i could find was this bit in the E3 2007 trailer:


Campbell: Its not something the U.N can officially sanction either.

Snake: Why me?

Campbell: Because the Military might of the PMC's..........

Now either the dialogue is cut because its just a trailer or the Colonel is completely ignoring the question which is something that he has done on many an occasion and this begs the question: Why Snake?

Why would you bring back a 3 time retired old war hero to tackle a soldier in his prime? Why not hire the best America has to offer than a man in the worst condition ever, hes slowly decaying!

Now you could tell me that hes there to finish off liquid as only he can do it, and you're right, US and SNAKE are being led to believe this. Just like we were led to believe that we were going to shadow moses to stop the terrorists and save the hostages only to realise that we were sent to kill everyone off with Foxdie. We have also been led to believe we were going on a mission to save the president only to be shocked by the discovery that it was just a training routine run by the patriots. And finally we were led to belive that we had to kill a traitor who was once a great soldier for her country only to find out that she died for her country since she followed their orders until the end.

So the pattern is there guys, Snake and us will go into the game thinking that this is just his one last mission but i think there is something else at play since they picked a slow decaying retired war hero. At a guess i think Snake has been picked for this mission because of the patriots and if BB is still alive (long shot) then i would bet BB wanted to put Snake through the paces, thus, MGS4 could be another training excersice on the real time battlefield.

What do you guys think.

Snake really wasn't "picked". I like to think he chose to do it out of the goodness of his heart to save the world.

Plus I think Snake is the best America has to offer and Liquid is his clone brother trying to take over the world so it seems like a more fitting chose for Snake to take him down instead of some guy who knows nothing about Liquid.

Snake was picked. If he was volunteered for the Job why would he be asking the colonel "Why me?"?

This can be best answered with a quote from MGS1 between Campbell and Snake:


Campbell: "Snake, you got to stop Metal Gear by any means possible"

Snake: "Why me?"

Campbell: "....Because your the only one who can"


Same applies here

Because this is Metal Gear Goddamn Solid.

Good point. Metal Gear Solid wouldn't have the same ring or badassness as it would have with any other name. They can't just change it to Metal Gear Random, Not as Cool Operative.

I think solidus_snake2043 and Solidcon pretty much clear this one up.

personally, I stopped caring about realism since i started mgs1. Hardly anything makes sense with mgs, but its damn cool.

you guys didn't clear shit up. he's trying to get you to open up your minds and theorize about why snake was really chosen. "because it's metal gear solid"

There are two options here... Either Campbell uses Snake because he is the best or he uses him because Snake trusts him and he can 'manipulate' him easily.
This isn't an official mission, it's just a favor.
The inner-meaning of the game certainly isn't simply eliminate Liquid and the PMC's threat. As you already said each MGS game has a different conclusion than the first we originally thought it was.

They might have picked him because he is the best but... They have the Rat Patrol Team 01 which operates through SOP and makes them 5 times more effective and deadly, why do they need Snake? They manipulated him since the beginning... he's the perfect person for this mission.

Because Snake has already beaten Liquid Snake and Ocelot numerous times (5/1 to my count) and has a history of being able to tear down mercenary regimes.

Two Words:

Solid Snake

snake is the only one who can beat liquid. duh.

you guys obviously didnt understand the question, you just gave a bunch of dumb ass answers and smiled at yourselves because you think you know shit. Only MGS and Beach Stud actually read my post and not just the thread title and last line. how stupid do you other guys feel?

Obviously you didnt know that Snake was actually sent to shadow moses injected with foxdie to take out all the parties that could get their hands on Metal Gear Rex, which funnily enough, Snake berates campbell for later on in the game. Check your info kid.

Thanks beach stud. I guess some people are just plain dumb.

I agree completely with this and i just wonder if Snake is being used as bait and somebody else is actually doing the Real mission.

Guys i didnt question Solid Snake as the main character. I'm questioning Solid Snakes purpose and real mission not the one that he is told but why he is really there!!!

If I were any of you newbies I would be a lot more careful about who you call dumb. Which apparently is everyone on these forums except your precious "beach stud".
And yes, we DO know "shit". We, collectively, know everything.
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't feel stupid at all. If you'd just read more around the theories section and the rest of the MGS4 forum, then you're question would already be answered and this thread wouldn't be here.

The 'Solid' in 'Metal Gear Solid' doesn't indicate 'Solid Snake', it's a reference to the 3-D game enviroment. So you can have an MGS title without Solid Snake (MGS5) and it has been done- MGS3 (apart from Snake Vs Monkey) and MGS2 to some extent. Just clearing that up.

he's chosen because in the world of mgs, only snake can take on liquid. it takes a snake to kill a snake. (with the exception of raiden killing solidus). at the end of mgs2 snake was determined to find liquid and olga's baby. atop arsenal gear he jumped off after liquid who was in metal gear ray. at the end of mgs2, it seemed like snake would be hunting liquid at the start of the next game( but th next game was took place before any mg game). i got the impression that once raiden battled some of his deamons, he would help snake hunt down liquid. so i don't know why snake is asking the question "why me?". he wanted to track down liquid. he sould have said something like " i don't think i can keep this up" instead of "why me".


and i'm not sure about liquid being in his prime if he has ocelot's body. but i can see what you mean. his arm is at his prime lol. atop arsenal gear, he super jumped onto metal gear rex so i quess he could still be considered to have all the stamina and strength he had when foxdie killed him.

ok so we will follow the sheep and say that Snake is on this mission becase the game is called metal gear solid whic also has a hidden meaning of Meme Gene Scene. Clown.

because his brother has taken control of a large army and snake is the only one who has a history with him? besides, it's already been answerd, "why me?" "because you're the only one who can stop him" DOUGH!

Yes but when he start his mission in Metal Gear Solid 1 he not know that liquid is his brother after that he learns that.

LOL at that comment..

That is pretty much it however. Didn't Cambell say in the TGS trailer (the one when Liquid activates SOP...I think) that Snake is "The only one that can stop Liquid"?

Because, Sam Fisher and Gabe Logan were busy.

There is no need to put snake thru any "paces" or a training routine. . he has surpassed big boss by far

this is MGS4 we're talking about, snake already knows liquid's his brother.
and in MGS1 was chosen because he's liquid's bro and they wanted to get rid of snake and liquid at the same time as stated by the SOD, something which never happend becuase of Roy Campbell, which begs the question, why did Solidus save snake and liquid? he spared his and liquid's life when he helped campbell over-throw the SOD from position of power, why the hell will soldius want solid and liquid to stay alive? only came back to bite him in the arse.

But why and Snake after all he helps them right ????

snake was chosen for this mission because no matter how bad condition he is in or how old he is he is still the perfect soldier, the best the country has to offer

It still amazes me to this day how dense and unattentive some people can be on this forum.

To the OP: I know what you are getting at, but essentially it can't be answered until we play the game ourselves. (sorry for being captain obvious)

No doubt something to do with a plot twist will tell us the real reason why Snake was picked for the mission. But at this moment in time I am in no position to theorise.

I'm just saying that you don't have to be a dick to get a question answered.

I see what you are getting at, but I don't think Snake was picked to stop Liquid. I think Snake chose to stop him. What Campbell was asking for is that he watch over Meryl, because she is the one in the mission. I'm pretty sure that all of the US Gov does not know about Liquid, and it is just about the little PMC skirmish. The US sends Rat Patrol to recon what's going on. Campbell, not retired (at least I think.Snake: "Colonal!" "Not anymore Snake" because he is retired or he got promoted), so he knew that Snake would go, so he asked to watch over Meryl.

Snake was chosen so they could finish off the series? :P. It's because he is liquids brother. Atleast that's what I think?

You know. I might have a low post count, but arn't personal attacks against the rules, both of you?

I think snake was chosen (symbolicaly) because only the monster that man created can end what man has started.

Now, realisticaly I think snake was chosen because he already has a low profile. No one would expect an "old dog of war" to jump headlong into the battle to finish it.