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Topic Started: Oct 15 2004, 11:35 PM (4,136 Views)
MalAlmighty	Aug 14 2008, 04:41 PM Post #421
Fighterplanes runnin' round my head. Posts: 425 Group: Outer Heaven Member #7,367 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater	solidfox Aug 13 2008, 03:00 AM I agree FFXII was fun. The story wasn't great but the game play and all the extras kept me playing for much longer then I did with most other FF games. I've been looking forward to FFXIII versus more then XIII. Only thing that worries me is its connection to VII. Personally I'm not a fan of VII and I'm not looking forward to their guest appearances. Seeing Rinoa should make up for it though. I hope it just doesn't try to milk more of VII in this game. I want this to be a complete different game in its own. What're you talking about? It has no connection to VII, or any other game aside from XIII, and it barely has any tie to that. The only similarity is the style, which FF7 wins against all other FFs. And whats this about Rinoa? It is a complete different game in it's own. What on earth gave you the idea that it's related to FF7? Edited by MalAlmighty, Aug 14 2008, 04:46 PM.
	Know what I hate? Peanutbutter. It sticks to your nipples


kisskissbangbang	Aug 14 2008, 04:50 PM Post #422
Fetish for you. Posts: 612 Group: Members Member #7,269 Joined: April 23, 2008	MalAlmighty Aug 14 2008, 04:41 PM solidfox Aug 13 2008, 03:00 AM I agree FFXII was fun. The story wasn't great but the game play and all the extras kept me playing for much longer then I did with most other FF games. I've been looking forward to FFXIII versus more then XIII. Only thing that worries me is its connection to VII. Personally I'm not a fan of VII and I'm not looking forward to their guest appearances. Seeing Rinoa should make up for it though. I hope it just doesn't try to milk more of VII in this game. I want this to be a complete different game in its own. What're you talking about? It has no connection to VII, or any other game aside from XIII, and it barely has any tie to that. The only similarity is the style, which FF7 wins against all other FFs. And whats this about Rinoa? It is a complete different game in it's own. What on earth gave you the idea that it's related to FF7? What on earth gave him the idea that final fantasy 12 was "fun"
	Beatdowns on the brain.


..Liquid..	Aug 14 2008, 04:51 PM Post #423
Posts: 3,123 Group: Banned Member #4,928 Joined: April 12, 2007 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots	Quote: What on earth gave him the idea that final fantasy 12 was "fun" It's called a personal opinion, memorise it. Edited by ..Liquid.., Aug 14 2008, 04:54 PM.



kisskissbangbang	Aug 14 2008, 05:30 PM Post #424
Fetish for you. Posts: 612 Group: Members Member #7,269 Joined: April 23, 2008	..Liquid.. Aug 14 2008, 04:51 PM Quote: What on earth gave him the idea that final fantasy 12 was "fun" It's called a personal opinion, memorise it. Claps And what i said is called a question. He only said it was long and the game play was "great" and there was extras. Thats vague. So i was asking him why he got that idea. Understand?
	Beatdowns on the brain.


..Liquid..	Aug 14 2008, 05:37 PM Post #425
Posts: 3,123 Group: Banned Member #4,928 Joined: April 12, 2007 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots	kisskissbangbang Aug 14 2008, 05:30 PM ..Liquid.. Aug 14 2008, 04:51 PM Quote: What on earth gave him the idea that final fantasy 12 was "fun" It's called a personal opinion, memorise it. Claps And what i said is called a question. He only said it was long and the game play was "great" and there was extras. Thats vague. So i was asking him why he got that idea. Understand? Yes, I do. Vague? What's vague about it? He clearly stated why he thought the game was 'fun'. Is there really a need to explain everything about it? There isn't. It's the same as saying; Shoot 'Em Up had a lot of action in it, it was a good movie. Not everything has to be explained to the fullest, also, it was clear to me why he thought the game was fun. I don't see what the logic in your post was, just to be condescending maybe? Personally, I thought FF XII was a pretty good game, I had approximately 300 hours in it, and almost finished it 100%, hell, it was a great game even. Any game that can make you play that long must be good, and it was. I had immense fun playing it, I'll say it again, I don't see why so many people hate it. The turn based is gone? Just turn off the gambit system, there! Turn based only.



kisskissbangbang	Aug 14 2008, 05:45 PM Post #426
Fetish for you. Posts: 612 Group: Members Member #7,269 Joined: April 23, 2008	..Liquid.. Aug 14 2008, 05:37 PM kisskissbangbang Aug 14 2008, 05:30 PM ..Liquid.. Aug 14 2008, 04:51 PM Quote: What on earth gave him the idea that final fantasy 12 was "fun" It's called a personal opinion, memorise it. Claps And what i said is called a question. He only said it was long and the game play was "great" and there was extras. Thats vague. So i was asking him why he got that idea. Understand? Yes, I do. Vague? What's vague about it? He clearly stated why he thought the game was 'fun'. Is there really a need to explain everything about it? There isn't. It's the same as saying; Shoot 'Em Up had a lot of action in it, it was a good movie. Not everything has to be explained to the fullest, also, it was clear to me why he thought the game was fun. I don't see what the logic in your post was, just to be condescending maybe? Personally, I thought FF XII was a pretty good game, I had approximately 300 hours in it, and almost finished it 100%, hell, it was a great game even. Any game that can make you play that long must be good, and it was. I had immense fun playing it, I'll say it again, I don't see why so many people hate it. The turn based is gone? Just turn off the gambit system, there! Turn based only. Ok it was vague because i didnt see the basis for it being "fun" just from saying there was extras and "great" gameplay. Final Fantasy 12 was long winded, tedious, had an unmemorable set of characters, and had a generic storyline. The battle system basically worked itself. That gambit system or something boring like that took the fun out of the game. The only good thing about it was that it had an enormously long campaign ( i hated that at first, as it felt like a task, but then it showed that the money spent was worth it) Overall its my least favourite of the series. All of that is my personal opinion of course. Judging from what i've seen, it looks like they've finally fixed all the issues on ff13 with atb.
	Beatdowns on the brain.


Roy Campbell	Aug 14 2008, 06:18 PM Post #427
Neko Boy Posts: 3,577 Group: DEAD CELL Member #1,834 Joined: March 6, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Quote: I agree that these games aren't giving me much hype. I think the game that hyped me up the most was XI (by far) and then X. I was mostly hyped by X because of this trailer I got in a magazine DVD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZuVDGUK70 That is one awesome trailer. Quote: I was just talking to the Patriots about the Kingdom Hearts game. I had been looking forward to the next game after part two. And got even more exited when they started naming off three more Kingdom Hearts games. But all my dreams were dashed when they released info that non of them would be on a platform. I don't like hand held systems like Nintendo, PSP, and Cell Phone games. So I guess I'll never play those. Pisses me off when a game with a great plot like that, has a main story line released on a different system. Cause then there is no way for me to keep up with it. Well, they aren't direct sequels to KH2, they are all kinda just spin offs with a little bit of the main story thrown in., not enough to be part of the main series and sufficient enough to not be called a spin off, they're sorta in the middle. I own both the DS and PSP so i'm not too bothered about them being on those systems (although I wont be able to get the mobile game). As long as KH3 is on a console then i'll be fine. Quote: Judging from what i've seen, it looks like they've finally fixed all the issues on ff13 with atb. The combat in FFXIII is going to be even faster and even more unlike the other FF games than FFXII is. FFXII had an active time battle system anyway. Edited by Roy Campbell, Aug 14 2008, 06:19 PM.



kisskissbangbang	Aug 14 2008, 09:23 PM Post #428
Fetish for you. Posts: 612 Group: Members Member #7,269 Joined: April 23, 2008	Roy Campbell Aug 14 2008, 06:18 PM Quote: Judging from what i've seen, it looks like they've finally fixed all the issues on ff13 with atb. The combat in FFXIII is going to be even faster and even more unlike the other FF games than FFXII is. FFXII had an active time battle system anyway. Yeah i've seen a few trailers and they really have improved upon final fantasy 12's battle system. Looks incredibly quick.
	Beatdowns on the brain.


Roy Campbell	Aug 14 2008, 09:28 PM Post #429
Neko Boy Posts: 3,577 Group: DEAD CELL Member #1,834 Joined: March 6, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Meh, thats not a good thing in my opinion. I want it to be turn based and slowed down. I'm not talking about FFVII turn based, which you could even argue is not turn based i'm talking about FFX's sytem. I loved that. Edited by Roy Campbell, Aug 14 2008, 09:29 PM.



kisskissbangbang	Aug 14 2008, 09:29 PM Post #430
Fetish for you. Posts: 612 Group: Members Member #7,269 Joined: April 23, 2008	Roy Campbell Aug 14 2008, 09:28 PM Meh, thats not a good thing in my opinion. I want it to be turn based and slowed down. I'm not talking about FFVII turn based, which you could even argue is not turn based i'm talking about FFX's sytem. I loved that. I liked it also But i wouldnt like it all over again.
	Beatdowns on the brain.


solidfox	Aug 15 2008, 03:13 AM Post #431
You're lying, I've been you Posts: 5,023 Group: The Patriots Member #1,427 Joined: November 14, 2005 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Quote: What're you talking about? It has no connection to VII, or any other game aside from XIII, and it barely has any tie to that. The only similarity is the style, which FF7 wins against all other FFs. And whats this about Rinoa? It is a complete different game in it's own. What on earth gave you the idea that it's related to FF7? Go to most the Final Fantasy sites and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. People from another game will make a guest appearance. Not as main characters, just show up and pass by. Do you not think I know that they are different games? I always get a chuckle when people react like that. Versus character is based around the guy who mentored Zack, Cloud's partner. So how can you say it has nothing to do with FFVII when it is based off VII's plot? And thank you for those defenses on my reply to FFXII. I really didn't think I had to explain a personal opinion on the game, I simply thought it was fun. The plot wasn't to great and the music wasn't amazing, but I had fun with the battle systems, the side quest, and the weapons. @Roy isn't that a great trailer? They miss pronounced the names but other then that, it had gotten me hyped up. The music for that game is epic. The thing about Kingdom Hearts though, is even if it isn't 100% a sequel I still feel obligated to play it since it has the title. Cause normally when I go and pick up a game after stuff like this has happened, people start saying, "Oh you should've picked up the DS spin off! It gave you some extra info on so and so." Then I always feel left out of the loop on the small things. So in the end I start forking out a lot of money to play a small game. I ended up having to do the same thing for MGS Portable Ops then sold the PSP within the same week for like 50% less. Edited by solidfox, Aug 15 2008, 04:42 AM.



brainScrap	Aug 15 2008, 03:47 AM Post #432
Care for a smoke? Posts: 298 Group: Members Member #7,135 Joined: April 10, 2008 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots	I think Square did well in recreating the battle system for FFXII, it's just the story and the music aren't FFXII's strongest points. Edited by brainScrap, Aug 15 2008, 04:28 AM.



MalAlmighty	Aug 15 2008, 01:42 PM Post #433
Fighterplanes runnin' round my head. Posts: 425 Group: Outer Heaven Member #7,367 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater	solidfox Aug 15 2008, 03:13 AM Quote: What're you talking about? It has no connection to VII, or any other game aside from XIII, and it barely has any tie to that. The only similarity is the style, which FF7 wins against all other FFs. And whats this about Rinoa? It is a complete different game in it's own. What on earth gave you the idea that it's related to FF7? Go to most the Final Fantasy sites and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. People from another game will make a guest appearance. Not as main characters, just show up and pass by. Do you not think I know that they are different games? I always get a chuckle when people react like that. Versus character is based around the guy who mentored Zack, Cloud's partner. So how can you say it has nothing to do with FFVII when it is based off VII's plot? ...No it's not, I go to FFvXIII forums all the time. I know just about every bit of info on the game. I have NO IDEA where you got that information, but it's not true. It has nothing to do with FF7, Zack, Cloud, or anything. The only thing it related to is 13, and that being whole "nova crystalis" universe. Maybe you're thinking of Final Fantasy Dissidia or something, but FFversusXIII will have nothing to do with 7 or any other game at all. I've followed it ever since the first trailer, on forums like finalfantasy-xiii.net and just about every gaming site, every day for new information. I think you should go to some Final Fantasy sites and check it out yourself, maybe you came in contact with a certain FF7 fanboy who spewed his dreams onto like they were facts. The only thing known about the character is that he's a prince trying to defend his kingdom and crystals from people who want to take their power for their own, and that he works with a mafia-esque family and sometimes wears Roen suits. No FF7 backstory there. Edited by MalAlmighty, Aug 15 2008, 01:54 PM.
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Roy Campbell	Aug 15 2008, 06:14 PM Post #434
Neko Boy Posts: 3,577 Group: DEAD CELL Member #1,834 Joined: March 6, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Quote: Versus character is based around the guy who mentored Zack ...what? The only character of Versus that has been revealed in any detail is the main character who is nothing at all like, or related in any manner to Angeal (Zack's mentor). Versus' main character is a young prince who has to protect his kingdom against some guys who seek to conquer the city and take the Crystals.



solidfox	Aug 15 2008, 08:49 PM Post #435
You're lying, I've been you Posts: 5,023 Group: The Patriots Member #1,427 Joined: November 14, 2005 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	MalAlmighty Aug 15 2008, 01:42 PM I think you should go to some Final Fantasy sites and check it out yourself, maybe you came in contact with a certain FF7 fanboy who spewed his dreams onto like they were facts. This is where I've heard not just one Final Fantasy fanboy, but a dozen of em post about it, including links to the info they got. They are not aloud to post such things without proof. Check out FFF, I can't post links to the site here. But meh, I really couldn't care less. It's a game that I don't even plan to play so there isn't any real reason for me to try to defend it. Edited by solidfox, Sep 10 2008, 08:19 AM.



Roy Campbell	Aug 15 2008, 08:51 PM Post #436
Neko Boy Posts: 3,577 Group: DEAD CELL Member #1,834 Joined: March 6, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Me thinks some proof is needed. Did you ignore my post or something? Explain yourself man! How is Versus' character anything like Angeal?



solidfox	Aug 15 2008, 08:54 PM Post #437
You're lying, I've been you Posts: 5,023 Group: The Patriots Member #1,427 Joined: November 14, 2005 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	I kinda did, I really don't know, I'm not paying to much attention to the game. I've just seen tons of post about it for the past several months. With people going back and forth on how, if, and why they will make their appearance. I guess the rumors started with the mags gameinformer and PSM. Edit: only other info I see atm, is from the Toyko game show, an interview with Nomura he mentioned that scenario writer, Nojima (Kazushige) wanted to continue something else with Cloud even if only a little tilt of a hat. Edited by solidfox, Aug 15 2008, 08:59 PM.



Roy Campbell	Aug 15 2008, 09:02 PM Post #438
Neko Boy Posts: 3,577 Group: DEAD CELL Member #1,834 Joined: March 6, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	You kinda didn't. I visit FFF every few months becuase its the best place to get the latest Square Enix news. I don't visit it, or any other FF forum for that matter, frequently. And nor do I need to. I have never though, come across any piece of infomation that suggests what you are saying is anywhere near correct. I fail to see any correlation between Angeal and the Prince from Versus, and nor do I see any ties with FFVII. Versus' designer said he wanted to make it 'darker' and more 'realistic', 'like FFVII' but thats it. I don't mean to sound like an arse but if you would supply a source then I will gladly take back everything I have said and bid you good day. If not, then what you say means diddly squat.



solidfox	Aug 15 2008, 09:25 PM Post #439
You're lying, I've been you Posts: 5,023 Group: The Patriots Member #1,427 Joined: November 14, 2005 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	By saying that I thought I explained myself, I meant that in my last post I explained that I had just heard it as a rumor. Since when has this forum gotten so uptight about stuff? I simply stated something I heard then everybody jumps on me like I was the first one that said it and like I was the one starting the rumor. I was wrong, it wasn't Versus, it was XIII. And I said I wasn't going to post the site cause I can get in trouble. But since everybody is being so bent on it I will. You can check out the some interviews on IGN, and the previous mags I mentioned. As I said, it was a rumor I heard and all I did was mention it on here, its not like I came out swinging trying to disprove others. Edited by solidfox, Sep 10 2008, 08:18 AM.



Roy Campbell	Aug 15 2008, 09:48 PM Post #440
Neko Boy Posts: 3,577 Group: DEAD CELL Member #1,834 Joined: March 6, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	The 'apparent' source: Quote: The magazine asked Nomura if Cloud's role will expand from here on out. To this, Nomura responded with, "I have my hands full with Final Fantasy Versus XIII now, so I can't say anything about the future, but the scenario writer, Nojima (Kazushige), says he doesn't want to part from Cloud yet, so there will surely be something." Well firstly this has nothing to do with Angeal, its about Cloud. Secondly, and more importantly,this has nothing to do with Cloud being in FFXIII. The idea of Cloud being in FFXIII is completely preposterous. This is about Nojima Kazushige liking Cloud and hinting at another possible addition to the FFVII compilation. Then what some other guy said: Quote: the cloud thing is complicated...... the guy who was Zacks first partner or mentor will be in versus. So they might add cloud in around somewhere not sure how..... I dont know what kinda role he'll play[zacks exmentor] the article is in the mag "gameinformer". I might be wrong but thats what i understood. His mentor has red hair and has a sword very similar to the Buster sword which was zacks then clouds. His mentor has red hair and a sword which looks like Zack's Buster Sword? No he doesn't, he has black hair and the Buster Sword. For a member of a Final Fantasy forum he's pretty clueless i'd say. He has zero credibility. These are the only two posts I have found with any such rumours about Cloud, Angeal or any other FFVII character being in FFXIII. You should really give those guys down a FFF a talking to as they don't seem to know their stuff. This rumour (which doesn't even deserve to be called a rumour) is complete and utter crap. Quote: Since when has this forum gotten so uptight about stuff? I always get uptight when it comes to FF . Its not you i'm annoyed at, its these rumours. Edited by Roy Campbell, Aug 15 2008, 09:50 PM.



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