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Is Major Zero in on it?; The man with the same code name as Null
Topic Started: Dec 15 2006, 09:15:10 PM (2,635 Views)
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in this cutscene Gene talks to ocelot about who was the person helping him and gene believes it the person who has the same codename as null, and mojor zero is the closest thing i can think of. do u guys think ocelot and Major Zero set up snake. like getting him there with him not even rememebring how he got there.

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hmm, yea that can work, but Campbell couldve been playing along with his getting captured stroy, but then again, the malaria, but that couldve just happened while he was waiting for Snake to get there in the cell.
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I think the man with codename Null is probably someone we've not met yet. If indeed it is the man that Gene was talking about. I do think that this third unknown member of The Patriots is probably someone who knew The Boss quite well.
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I'm convinced Zero is a major player (pun!). He set up Paramedic and Sigint on the radio. He gave Paramedic a suspicious nod in MGS3. The Null thing, and most importantly the 'too nice to be a bad guy' thing.

And I take the last thing we're shown that Roy was in on it all the time.
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wait isn't major zero in jail from the begging of the game :blink:
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well it was said something along the lines that he was in custody but that doesn't me he can't be a major player in the game. The government has lied to Snake so many times before so why should this time be any different?
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It's most likely another question that'll be answered with Portable Ops 2.
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I'm convinced Zero is a major player (pun!). He set up Paramedic and Sigint on the radio. He gave Paramedic a suspicious nod in MGS3. The Null thing, and most importantly the 'too nice to be a bad guy' thing.

And I take the last thing we're shown that Roy was in on it all the time.

you almost make some pretty valid points except for the whole "suspicious nod thing. that would mean para medic was in on it too. which would mean that the whole thing was one big setup?

and were do you get roy being in on it from? what cutscene is that?
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Dec 27 2006, 05:35 PM
It's most likely another question that'll be answered with Portable Ops 2.

Or MGS4. But lets hope its Portable ops 2, since MGS4 is allready confirmed to be released B) .
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If this prooves true then it means that he was the one who orcestrated all the events of Snake Eater, and it makes sense as he was Naked Snake's C.O. And when they told Snake in the game that he was "arrested" that could have been false information to cover up the fact that he was orchestrating everything behind the scenes.
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this could seem true, he was apart of the CIA and it was him that created FOX in the first place
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But it seems he like Ocelot betrayed the CIA or was never working for them in the first place.
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The thin is, if Major Zero or Roy were in on it, wouldn't it techniqally make them bad? And Zero's been with Big Boss too long to screw him now. But it could be the Null codename, and not the Fox. Because Gene said Null was an unknown number, without a code, and he isn't Grey Fox til Foxhound gets started up, so I'm just lost here. :wacko:
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Null is German for "zero". And I think Big Boss would be pretty pissed if he found out that Zero orchestrated The Boss' death, but maybee theres something behind it that will convince Big Boss to join them.
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Yea, I wondered a bit whether it was Major Zero he was talking about, since he is the only one I can think of with the same codename as Null... But it dosn't add up... He's just way to british to get government conspiracy theory's on him :P well he seems too nice. But as one of the members pointed out, that could be the act...

A bond movie fanatic, a part of the patriots... I think not... :huh:

But it always could be... I mean he was the founder of fox... Maybe it was all a part of the act to keep the legendary soldier, he who bested the boss on the right line...

But because of some unexplainable reason, I doubt it's him...
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also major zero kept the codec signal just incase so he knew that snake was captured, also he was arrested in suspicion of treason
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I think he is in on it. To me he just seems like that kind of guy, he's always cool and collected. That suspicious nod to Para-Medic at the beginning of the Virtuous Mission, it makes sense to me now (I always thought that she was concerned about Snake, but there's no reason, they haven't met yet)

I think they all (Major Zero, Para-Medic and Sigint) might be in on it. Why wasn't Sigint as contact during Virtuous Mission? Because Zero knew he wouldn't be needed

Although there's one thing going against it: Null doesn't only mean Zero, it also means defective i.e. in a box of eggs, if one egg is defective it would be a Null egg.
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Now it all makes sense. Does this mean Major Zero is one of the founders of the Patriots? It makes sense if you think about it, at the end of MGS2 Otacon said that a member of the Patriots was "one of our biggest contributors". Major Zero started Fox wich turned inot Foxhound, Snakes old unit.
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I thinks it's probably Major Zero. since it's a codename and it's synonymous to null. in programming, null is an empty number. a false boolean, if u will. It's a value of all zeros.

Major zero is got to be it. I also believe that he isnt sent to jail at all.
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He wasn't sent to jail, he was placed in custody of the CIA, that doesn't mean jail. He could obviously be eventually sent to prison if Snake didn't complete his mission.

I doubt that he was ever in custody though, she probably just said that as an extra incentive for Snake.
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