The link between MGS1, 2 and the third

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The link between MGS1, 2 and the third
Topic Started: Mar 9 2008, 07:09 PM (703 Views)
Tuxedo Snake	Mar 9 2008, 07:09 PM Post #1
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	hi guys there's something i can't still get it from the 3 metal gears I played: -Metal Gear Solid -Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance -Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater I can find the link between the first two metal gears because of the last conversation between Solidus and the other guy (I think it's the minister of defence) in Metal Gear Solid, but can't find how metal gear solid 3 continues the story of the other two. MGS starts in the begining of the 21st century but MGS3 starts in the 1960's Moreover there are other things that change: In the cutscene before the credits in MGS, Snake tells Meryl that his name is David, but he's called Jack in MGS3, was he just lying to Meryl? And his codename changes from solid snake to naked snake, or isn't this important? Another question... Raiden says in MGS2 that Snake is the hero of Shadow Moses. What is Shadow Moses?
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


Helikaon	Mar 9 2008, 07:18 PM Post #2
Feck off! Posts: 6,997 Group: OH Global Moderator Member #3,838 Joined: December 31, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	OK. First of all, the Snake in MGS 3 is not the same man as in MGS 1, 2 and 4. The Snake of Snake Eater fame is Naked Snake, who later goes on to become Big Boss. The Snake of Sons of Liberty and the original game is Solid Snake, the clone 'son' of Big Boss. Shadow Moses is the location of the first game, also the name of the terrorist incident forming the plot of the first game.
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Tuxedo Snake	Mar 9 2008, 07:21 PM Post #3
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	Which means that MGS3 is something like an appart story isn't it?
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


Helikaon	Mar 9 2008, 07:24 PM Post #4
Feck off! Posts: 6,997 Group: OH Global Moderator Member #3,838 Joined: December 31, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	It's a prequel, it tells the story of Big Boss.
	MGSF Awards 2008 'Best Moderator' and MGS Know It All winner. Dear Science, please fix all the things you keep talking about or shut the fuck up. -TV On the Radio


Tuxedo Snake	Mar 9 2008, 07:28 PM Post #5
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	Oh i get it so this snake of MGS3 is the Big Boss that they talk about in MGS and MGS2 right? The fisrt time i played MGS3 i didn't even payed attention to the date and thaught that the Snake from MGS and MGS2 got the title of Big Boss his "father".. Gotta pay more attention to the cutscenes
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


Helikaon	Mar 9 2008, 07:29 PM Post #6
Feck off! Posts: 6,997 Group: OH Global Moderator Member #3,838 Joined: December 31, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Hah, yeah it's the same Big Boss. MGS 3 was meant to show us why Big Boss is known as the Greatest Soldier of the 20^th century.
	MGSF Awards 2008 'Best Moderator' and MGS Know It All winner. Dear Science, please fix all the things you keep talking about or shut the fuck up. -TV On the Radio


Tuxedo Snake	Mar 9 2008, 07:31 PM Post #7
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	But if this Snake isn't the same man as the MGS2 and MGS why does EVA appear in MGS4 :wacko:
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


Helikaon	Mar 9 2008, 07:35 PM Post #8
Feck off! Posts: 6,997 Group: OH Global Moderator Member #3,838 Joined: December 31, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Because she is a character that can add to Snakes story. EVA is a first hand source for Snake to learn the truth about Big Boss. The three games are all apart of the same story.
	MGSF Awards 2008 'Best Moderator' and MGS Know It All winner. Dear Science, please fix all the things you keep talking about or shut the fuck up. -TV On the Radio


Tuxedo Snake	Mar 9 2008, 07:40 PM Post #9
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	I see... Thanks for all this explaination One more thing, are MG portable ops and the acids part of the story too? If so I will try to watch it in youtube
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


Helikaon	Mar 9 2008, 07:41 PM Post #10
Feck off! Posts: 6,997 Group: OH Global Moderator Member #3,838 Joined: December 31, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Portable Ops is, it's a continuation of Snake Eater. Ac!d isn't, it's a completely non-canon spin off title.
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skywalker	Mar 9 2008, 09:19 PM Post #11
Light Saber trumps anything Posts: 2,350 Group: The Patriots Member #1,639 Joined: January 12, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater	Didn't the fact that Ocelot was only like 20 years old in this game confuse you? Even if you didn't watch the cut scense, you still fight him.
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Rev-SQ	Mar 9 2008, 10:43 PM Post #12
Light Infantry Posts: 266 Group: Members Member #6,786 Joined: February 10, 2008	You really need to be more attentive.
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Tuxedo Snake	Mar 12 2008, 09:45 PM Post #13
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	skywalker Mar 9 2008, 09:19 PM Didn't the fact that Ocelot was only like 20 years old in this game confuse you? Even if you didn't watch the cut scense, you still fight him. Well not really because I played MGS in this order: MGS 2 MGS 3 MGS 1 I almost didn't knew Ocelot, to confuse him with another character... I knew Liquid but couldn't have a clue that they are the same one untill play MGS 1
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


UrbanCombat	Mar 12 2008, 09:50 PM Post #14
Shining Knight Posts: 1,175 Group: The Patriots Member #4,818 Joined: April 2, 2007	If I were you I would re-play all the games in order, MGS1, MGS2 and then the third, and pay close attention what each character is saying. This way you will be able get a good grasp of the story and see why we are all hyped for MGS4



Tuxedo Snake	Mar 12 2008, 09:58 PM Post #15
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	I played MGS 1 in last so I already started to play MGS2 and MGS3 at the same time but thanks for the hint anyway the MGS3 was the only thing I didn't understood besides that I knew the rest of the story there were only a few pieces of the puzzle missing in my head xD
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


Metalmalitia23	Mar 13 2008, 04:03 PM Post #16
Post Hypnotic Suggestions Posts: 810 Group: Members Member #6,285 Joined: September 27, 2007	Play the games in order and it will all make sense.(hopefully) Also, read the game manual for MGS1 it tells the basic back story for MG1 and MG2(from NES) which is important to understand Big Boss more and Snake Eater.
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doubleo sigint	Mar 13 2008, 04:27 PM Post #17
Posts: 1,676 Group: Outer Heaven Member #6,015 Joined: August 13, 2007 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Ha ha this thread is funny, no offence to you tuxedo but I hate it when people think BigBoss in MGS3 is Solid Snake I mean when I first heard that MGS3 was set in the 60's and "Snake" had an eyepatch in PS2 magazines I was like "Obviously BigBoss" and still yet the magazine said "could we be playing as the legendary BigBoss in this games?" well duh!!. It's 1964 for crying out loud! and I don't see Doc Brown in a Delorian for Solid Snake anywhere.
	Maryll - We talk all harsh and you guys are always teacup talking. And although it seems heaven sent We ain't ready, to see a black President.....Oh wait. Spoiler: click to toggle .


cuttingedge	Mar 13 2008, 05:15 PM Post #18
Advanced MGS player Posts: 141 Group: Members Member #6,901 Joined: March 5, 2008	all the games are linked by at least one person or facctor. Play the original metal gear's on NES or Konami's MSX Then play 1, 2 and 3. In that order the way Hideo planned us to.



Tuxedo Snake	Mar 13 2008, 11:08 PM Post #19
Jail Guard Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #6,885 Joined: March 2, 2008	doubleo sigint Mar 13 2008, 04:27 PM Ha ha this thread is funny, no offence to you tuxedo but I hate it when people think BigBoss in MGS3 is Solid Snake I mean when I first heard that MGS3 was set in the 60's and "Snake" had an eyepatch in PS2 magazines I was like "Obviously BigBoss" and still yet the magazine said "could we be playing as the legendary BigBoss in this games?" well duh!!. It's 1964 for crying out loud! and I don't see Doc Brown in a Delorian for Solid Snake anywhere. As I said before I didn't payed attention to the date of the game.... That's why I confused it and as I hadn't played MGS how could I know who is BigBoss
	"The momment you close your eyes in the battlefield is the momment when you'll never open them again." - The End


doubleo sigint	Mar 14 2008, 12:12 AM Post #20
Posts: 1,676 Group: Outer Heaven Member #6,015 Joined: August 13, 2007 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Tuxedo Snake Mar 13 2008, 11:08 PM doubleo sigint Mar 13 2008, 04:27 PM Ha ha this thread is funny, no offence to you tuxedo but I hate it when people think BigBoss in MGS3 is Solid Snake I mean when I first heard that MGS3 was set in the 60's and "Snake" had an eyepatch in PS2 magazines I was like "Obviously BigBoss" and still yet the magazine said "could we be playing as the legendary BigBoss in this games?" well duh!!. It's 1964 for crying out loud! and I don't see Doc Brown in a Delorian for Solid Snake anywhere. As I said before I didn't payed attention to the date of the game.... That's why I confused it and as I hadn't played MGS how could I know who is BigBoss Nah this weren't directed at you this tread just reminded me of when countless MGS noobs used to say BigBoss was Solid Snake.
	Maryll - We talk all harsh and you guys are always teacup talking. And although it seems heaven sent We ain't ready, to see a black President.....Oh wait. Spoiler: click to toggle .


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