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| Metal Gear: The Reality | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 2 2008, 12:23 AM (668 Views) | |
| GraySnake182 | Jul 2 2008, 12:23 AM Post #1 |
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What is the possibility of a weapon like Metal Gear actually being built? Obviously, the Ray model is a bit surreal, but I want to leave this open for exploration. I think the most likely models are Rex for land-based combat and Arsenal Gear for naval warfare. |
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| OuterJaccob | Jul 2 2008, 12:43 AM Post #2 |
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I still don't see the strategic value of something like REX in the real world, it's a mobile nuclear platform, but so is the B2 bomber, the only difference is the B2 can travel at 600mph and reach 30,000ft in just a few minutes, how fast can REX travel? 30, maybe 40mph? I could be wrong, I'm no expert when it comes to military stuff, but a walking tank could definitely be useful in anti-infantry situations, but when push comes to shove, thinking about how expensive it would be to produce, I doubt anything like that would happen in the foreseeable future. Arsenal is probably a different story, an underwater fortress which can carry dozens of warheads, while doubling up as a bunker for top government officials and a base for deploying troops from sea to land, quite plausible I suppose. |
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| GraySnake182 | Jul 2 2008, 12:47 AM Post #3 |
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The advantage to Rex is that it could be used in situations such as bad weather or overly dangerous airspace where planes aren't an option. The use of Rex leaves open the ability to deploy nukes when and where they're needed, if at all, without the dangers to an air crew of flying in inclement weather or hostile airspace. |
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"Everything has its beginning. But it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that - in chaos. The world is born - from zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes two, two becomes 10, 10 becomes 100. Taking it all back to one solves nothing. So long as zero remains, one will eventually grow to 100 again." - Spoiler: click to toggle Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots[/big]
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| Soriddo Suneku | Jul 2 2008, 02:56 AM Post #4 |
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Honestly, I don't see why submarines aren't considered more dangerous than a metal-gear. They're deep underwater, travel quite fast, can deploy nuclear missiles, and there is no way a single infantryman could take one out, unless he was in the damn thing when he did (suicide). I do agree a metal-gear would be one hell of an asset on a battlefield though. It would cut through the enemy like cake. |
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| GraySnake182 | Jul 2 2008, 03:05 AM Post #5 |
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Because Metal Gear overcomes the limits of subs. |
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"Everything has its beginning. But it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that - in chaos. The world is born - from zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes two, two becomes 10, 10 becomes 100. Taking it all back to one solves nothing. So long as zero remains, one will eventually grow to 100 again." - Spoiler: click to toggle Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots[/big]
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| Trunks | Jul 2 2008, 03:14 AM Post #6 |
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What about the Shagohod? (yeah, I know, it sucks. And its name is sorta suggestive  )
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| Shyne-Bryght | Jul 2 2008, 10:55 AM Post #7 |
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Highly unlikely, they are highly impractical weapons if you think about it. Some points: They are far too large, easy targets for any missile/weapon system for miles in a battlefield. The way Rex and Ray stand would make them very vulnerable to toppling and bumpy ground, plus it would cost a bomb to design a robotics system that could balance them. I think its all too large and too expensive, simply having a squad of footsoldiers with the same weaponry is much more effective, a squad with rockets, machine-guns and rail guns, directed particle laser (thinking in the pretence of them actually existing), they'd be much more effective for transport, multiple smaller targets giving the potential of surrounding,flanking etc. An effectively equipped squad would trump a Metal Gear any day imo. |
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| black king | Jul 2 2008, 11:25 PM Post #8 |
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I don't even know if any of them are technologically available anyway, bar the shagohod. RAXXA- well if they design it like it was in MGS:PO then 3-4 infantry could take one down. REX- Here's an idea. However having the same type of nuke it carried in MGS1 might be a problem. And the armor type too. all in all however it could be a good anti-armor and anti-infantry platform RAY- the Marine model sure but not the Navy's. It's water cannon could be effective as an anti-armor weapon while the machine guns could be anti-infantry. could we reproduce that artificial blood? Arsenal- this is probably the best and worst idea at the same time. We know what it could do for a country but we know what happens when one crashes. If it somehow got destroyed there goes
Gekkou- I've never played MGs4 so idk. 
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| Cardboard Box | Jul 3 2008, 01:36 AM Post #9 |
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Gekkou would be the most useful but at the same time the most implausible. We can't really create artificial tissue for the legs and an AI to control it. |
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| wraith shadow | Jul 3 2008, 02:23 AM Post #10 |
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The mg rex and ray if they can be made un-manned vehicles like UAVs otherwise they are just another metal death trap. Arsenal gear could be pretty useful seeing as most of earth is water. |
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| Shyne-Bryght | Jul 3 2008, 09:56 AM Post #11 |
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Yeah, but they're just too damn big, you could torpedo Arsenal Gear from miles with nuke subs, missile it etc, same goes with Rex/Ray/Shagohod, they're oversived, making them easy targets, if Snake can take any of them down, there's nothing saying a SCUD or two can't 
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| Innocent_Fox | Jul 3 2008, 01:07 PM Post #12 |
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That's true, the strategic value of a Metal Gear being deployed on to a battlefield would be good in theory but bad in practice. Unpredictable armies equal dead Metal Gear RAXXA/REX/RAY/GEKKO. |
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| GraySnake182 | Jul 3 2008, 05:01 PM Post #13 |
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Arsenal is probably the only one that would actually happen, in all honesty. From a practical military standpoint, the rest are more of a hassle than their capabilities make them worth. Arsenal, however, is ingenious, and any military leader would say so. A submarine fortress will full nuclear offensive capabilities, not to mention electronics disruption and radar jamming. It's nearly perfect, but for the size and speed. |
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| Cuccoochampion99 | Jul 3 2008, 08:52 PM Post #14 |
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The use of Rex is that it is a giant robot and it adds some much needed fantasy in a game based in modern times. |
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| Sybris | Jul 4 2008, 06:42 PM Post #15 |
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REX/RAY would be a rather inefficient project now. There's nothing they can do that can't be done cheaper. |
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| theman515 | Jul 5 2008, 05:03 AM Post #16 |
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why not? we're on the verge(when i say that i mean thirty-fifty years) of making entire organs from stem cells and as the AI goes well we already have pretty impressive robots it's not such a stretch anymore to think of gekkou as real |
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| OuterJaccob | Jul 5 2008, 01:19 PM Post #17 |
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Well it kind of is, considering the world's most advanced robot has four legs and walks like an 80 year old woman, Gekko would be far more conceivable if they were manned. |
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| GraySnake182 | Jul 5 2008, 01:24 PM Post #18 |
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The only way any of them would work would to be have them manned, particularly Gekkou. Without a pilot, the idea of Gekkou is impossible with current technology. |
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"Everything has its beginning. But it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that - in chaos. The world is born - from zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes two, two becomes 10, 10 becomes 100. Taking it all back to one solves nothing. So long as zero remains, one will eventually grow to 100 again." - Spoiler: click to toggle Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots[/big]
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| iAn | Jul 5 2008, 02:58 PM Post #19 |
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Rex and Ray and Shago can't be made in real life. Even with a unlimited funding it won't work because of simple physics. There was a equation for it, but I forgot what it was, but essentially it goes like this: The bigger the object and volume, the overall weight increases a whole lot more than you would imagine it would so. That way everything we build that moves is always limited to a certain size. It doesn't matter if you make legs big enough to hold the body. Physics will cause the MG to collapse in on itself because its overall weight is just too big. And plus, MG Rex and Ray are big, which means they are big targets. If they can be taken down by mere stinger rockets, imagine how much easier it will be to take it out with concentrated artillery fire and airstrikes. MG Rex and Ray have no tactical advantages whatsoever on the battlefield. |
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| GraySnake182 | Jul 5 2008, 06:25 PM Post #20 |
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Rex, Ray, and Gekkou are big targets, yes, but they have their own capabilities. If shrunken to the point where they wouldn't just fall over, Ray, in particular, could be a great asset on the battlefield. Take a campaign setting such, as for example, the middle east. Get Ray in an urban area (Baghdad, Damascus, Tehran, etc.) and the destruction would be unprecedented. The force packed by Ray's basic artilery alone, not even counting its nuclear capabilities, is enough to level a neighbourhood of private militia. |
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"Everything has its beginning. But it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that - in chaos. The world is born - from zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes two, two becomes 10, 10 becomes 100. Taking it all back to one solves nothing. So long as zero remains, one will eventually grow to 100 again." - Spoiler: click to toggle Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots[/big]
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