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| Metal Gear: The Reality | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 2 2008, 12:23 AM (687 Views) | |
| Cardboard Box | Jul 8 2008, 02:38 AM Post #21 |
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The only reason Gekkou would be of use is because they are smaller than most Metal Gears. They're small enough for urban and indoor combat, but large enough to take down larger vehicals. If you want to count the Mk. 2 and Dwarf Gekkous/Scarabs then actually I see the most potential in them, but they seem far off. Dwarfs especially. Imagine just flooding a building with them to flush out enemies or to capture them alive by restraining them.
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| GraySnake182 | Jul 8 2008, 02:43 AM Post #22 |
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I hadn't thought about that possibilty. Just imagine. Metal Gear Gekkou, dwarf form, being used by police to end standoffs without loss of life. |
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| iAn | Jul 8 2008, 03:55 AM Post #23 |
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But then the loss of civilian life would be tremendous. I suppose they would be better for assaulting military bases and establishments, instead of in populated areas. |
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| UrbanCombat | Jul 8 2008, 01:23 PM Post #24 |
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Would not be an option for the military. Even in if in 100 years they manage to design the robotics needed to move the thing, theres nothing to stop it from malfunctioning, if its by the weather, a small explosive or whatever. They can do all the damage a Metal Gear could today without spending billions to create these things. The are fighter jets out there now that are stealth, can fire a payload 10 miles away from their target. And, that technology is about 30 years old. God knows what they are developing now. |
 
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| iAn | Jul 8 2008, 02:49 PM Post #25 |
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Right. The for the military right now Smaller is Better. Its all about small stealthy combat systems and instantaneous real time battlefield awareness via multiple different small unmanned recon vehicles and unmanned combat vehicles. |
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| Shyne-Bryght | Jul 8 2008, 05:30 PM Post #26 |
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I'm thinking in a modern warfare situation, something like Rex or Ray shows up, an AC130 Spectre or two is sent out, with the Bofors cannon, end of. Its just too big to be of any practical use, now thats just using gunships, you can have an entrenched squad using a Javelin, could easily lay waste to a weapon like Rex or Ray. |
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| Register | Jul 8 2008, 05:50 PM Post #27 |
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Metal Gears won't happen because Bipedal tanks are useless. |
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| Roy Campbell | Jul 8 2008, 06:50 PM Post #28 |
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As infeasible as they sound, Metal Gears would give you a huge mental advantage. Imagine your in the middle of a small arms fight and then suddenly REX, this huge 20 foot walking robot, appears - you would shit yourself. |
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| The Protagonist | Jul 8 2008, 07:54 PM Post #29 |
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It could work as a psychological weapon, but it has no armor whatsoever....Like said by others above, if portable Stinger missiles can destroy REX, a F-16 or F-18 would render the REX completely....It's just like what Sigint said in a MGS3 radio conversation: ''Putting legs on a tank would raise it's clearence, increasing it's frontal projection area. It also be less stable''....I don't think any military force would use a walking tank, because of the amount of money it would take, and because of the weak armor the tank would get...Let's say we put a REX right in the middle of battlefield on the deserts of Iraq: It's a sitting duck! I don't think they will make any walking tanks that can fire nuclear missiles...There's no logic in that. No organization (NATO, United Nations etc.) would allow anyone to even build such a weapon. |
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| Shyne-Bryght | Jul 8 2008, 08:28 PM Post #30 |
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Not if myself or a surrounding soldier was equipped with some form of anti-armour weapon, it would make an easy kill. Plus I can't see a Metal Gear being much good against entrenched troops, they could easily dodge the laser, the missiles and railgun could be a problem but with the size issue you would see and hear it coming, and could take it down from a fair distance away. |
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| UrbanCombat | Jul 8 2008, 10:00 PM Post #31 |
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The weight would also be HUGE. Main battletanks today weigh around 70-75 tons. A Metal Gear would weigh so much, that it would be impossible for it to move according to physics. How would it power itself? It would need a huge engine of some sort, the fuel needed to keep it running for say 30mins would be phenomenal. I don't think robots magically move like they do in computer games. |
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| Cardboard Box | Jul 10 2008, 02:12 AM Post #32 |
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We're better off developing UAVs and other technology. Multiple mobile platforms or long range weapons could preform all the tasks a Metal Gear could for a fraction of the cost, resources, and increased reliability. Like I said before the only useful robotic platform would be something small for recon missions and reducing collateral damage. The future is about shrinking things and not going bigger. The only "Metal Gears" that would have a place in reality would be Scarabs/Dwarf Gekko or the Mk. 2 like I stated before. |
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| Boss_Snake | Jul 10 2008, 02:41 AM Post #33 |
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In actuality, I can only see Gekko and Arsenal being semi-realistic and practical. I would imagine Metal Gear units would be really expenisive to make and also repairs would be a major problem. Besides why would you need an 80 foot tall robot to do what a bomber or nuclear submarine can already do. |
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| Soriddo Suneku | Jul 12 2008, 05:20 AM Post #34 |
Because J. Moses Browning didn't invent a .46
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The thing is...well, for anti-personnel, wouldn't a tank do the same thing as Metal Gear? Meaning it would cut the enemy to shreds? As far as a mobile nuclear launch platform, submarines can go anywhere around the world and sink to depths so low that no man would be able to stop them, and they can launch a nuke from anywhere. |
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| Muikuli | Jul 12 2008, 07:30 AM Post #35 |
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A giant bi-pedal tank gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever in a battlefield. It won't happen. |
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| Soriddo Suneku | Jul 12 2008, 09:01 AM Post #36 |
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Because J. Moses Browning didn't invent a .46
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Care to explain how, from you're very extended experience and knowledge of the field? |
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| Nils | Jul 28 2008, 06:08 PM Post #37 |
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I have no knowledge on nuclear physics, or any technical expertise in the slightest, and hence will not comment on the likelyhood of a metal gear type of weapon ever being utilized. However, the events of Metal Gear, and the vies of the Patriots and of the fighters for Outer Heaven could well happen. Indeed, even now, Governments are going to great lengths to enforce rules and regulations, invading peoples privacy (hello Patriots) and we are losing our ability to question in the process. And as a reverse to that you will always have a freedom fighter (think in the form of Che) fighting against the control established by those only wanting us to obey rules (albeit their rules). So Kojima's predictions on that side of the game are perhaps far more accurate than those of the walking bipedal tanks. Edited by Nils, Jul 28 2008, 06:10 PM.
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| OuterJaccob | Jul 28 2008, 07:07 PM Post #38 |
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Well The Patriots are based on the Bilderberg, who some conspiracy theorists believe rule the world just like The Patriots. |
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| 250Mav | Aug 20 2008, 05:48 AM Post #39 |
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i think in todays world we need to be more worried about the undercover espionage action of "solid snakes" then giant walking robots the nuclear strike capabilities of metal gears were always their biggest threat. being able to nuke anywhere from anywhere is a big advantage espically if the incomming attact can be completley invisable id say the gekkos would be the most useful in todays world |
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| [X] Entity | Aug 30 2008, 03:44 PM Post #40 |
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The point of "Metal Gears" was never really their realism, in the context of the game, but what they represent. I.E. plausible deniability, the concept of "deterrence" becoming useless because of advances in the technology that propels nuclear weapons and the danger presented to civilians by WMDs in the hypothetical situation posited. I believe there is also a strong implication in the concept of the greatest asset of the military industrial complex becoming more anthropomorphic, albeit distinctly inhuman and cold. On the less socially conscious side, they're there to give you kick ass climactic boss fights. I'm pretty sure that Kojima took quite a few liberties with the nature of the "Metal Gears" in his games for dramatic purposes. I think it would be interesting to dig up what military advisor Motosada Mori has to say regarding liberties taken by Kojima for his fiction. UAVs are already quite real and frequently deployed in Iraq. There are lots of technological advances that might be compared on some level with some of the fictional things in the MGS series, but I doubt we'll see a "Metal Gear". Edited by [X] Entity, Aug 31 2008, 06:35 AM.
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