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What youz sportin!?; What Kind of computer Do you have?
Topic Started: Jul 4 2008, 01:00 PM (482 Views)
krypton_ls
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Jul 21 2008, 10:20 AM
:) My pride and joy!
Yeah, your machine could be worse I guess... ^_^

@Sybris: I think Vista 32-bit can handle 4GB, or 8GB under premium?
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Jul 21 2008, 03:19 PM
Your name would suggest as much :cool: Why do you need such specs? 8GB of RAM wth, can Vista even support that much? How do you sort out the hard drives (what goes on the raptors, the seagate)? Oh and I hear physics cards are a waste, then again more bragging rights :P

Any who - I'm finally getting a PC upgrade.. I finally want to move to dual core and get a decent graphics card. My friend sorted me out motherboard, PSU and RAM-wise.. so I guess I need a case too and probably a monitor, all though my current case may be big enough and the monitor can wait; this one should do for now!

If anyone could help me out that'd be nice, I haven't kept up with the latest PC hardware.. I do plan to overclock and I heard the E6600 is a superb overclocker, any ideas :/
Vista 32bit can only address 4GB of total RAM (system/video) so having 4GB+ in a 32bit environment is a total waste of time, Windows wont even recognize it being there, especially with a high spec system like mine. For example, if I had 4GB of RAM, the video cards which are 768MB each would hog almost 1.5GB of addressed space, and having a PhysiX card takes more memory, so I could have 2GB in my system doing nothing whatsoever. However, 64bit sorts this all out as the OS can address up to 64GB RAM, so software no longer becomes the bottleneck. Thankfully I have a 64bit system so all 8GB + Video Memory can be addressed.

As for the hard drives, I have my own personal way of doing it which I think is pretty neat. I have one system drive, one multimedia drive and one gaming drive. Simple yet effect setup. The system drive never becomes bogged down with programs and MP3 files which end up slowing your PC down, so its always free running with plenty room to maneuver. All games are stored on their own fast raptor drive, so no conflicts can be had with software, and all media/videos etc are all stored on one big ordinary drive, out of the way. Its a great hardware setup to protect your PC and keep it in order.

PhysiX cards are good at what they do, which isn't a great deal - but what they do they do 100x faster than even a overclocked quad core can do with the same data. Unfortunately not a lot of game developers took the hardware on, and now Nvidia have Incorporated their own PhysiX system onto their cards, its pretty obsolete. Not much more than a bragging right at having an extra processor in your system, your right.

Any help you need just hit me up.
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Indeed - PhysX cards are dirt cheap these days... heh anyone remember when they were £250+ ^_^

Currently £71 on eBuyer inc VAT - that's very reasonable, but only if you can find a game that utilises the technology. Aside from UT3... what other major games supported it?

Also, @DB: What sort of things do you do on your machine then for it to be such a high spec?
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Its used for gaming and as a media hub mostly. I also do a lot of video editing and photoshopping, so it comes in handy for that. Usually for gaming and benchmarking though, I'm a bit of an enthusiast, I love tweaking and overclocking and the like.
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What, you split your hdd space into drive portions and assigned one to each game? How did you do that?

Anyone know a good socket Socket 775 mobo that'll allow me to overclock well? And possibly budge up the FSB/bus speed. No more than 70 I guess, pounds that is. Is this any good?
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Jul 21 2008, 07:37 PM
What, you split your hdd space into drive portions and assigned one to each game? How did you do that?

Anyone know a good socket Socket 775 mobo that'll allow me to overclock well? And possibly budge up the FSB/bus speed. No more than 70 I guess, pounds that is. Is this any good?
Nah man I don't do partions, then annoy me lol. The physical drives are just formatted seperatly. Vista on the Raid0 and the other two on seperate drives. The more HDD's the better really. The thought of only having one C:/ kind of pains me to think lol.

That motherboard sounds good, I'd go with that. Just make sure you get a decent CPU, Core 2 Duo at the very least. I'd get a cheap quad if I were you, the Q6600 would be perfect, its a great overclocker, you could even push a Q6600 to the performance level of mine (QX6850) with the right power supply and cooling.
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Jul 21 2008, 07:37 PM
Anyone know a good socket Socket 775 mobo that'll allow me to overclock well? And possibly budge up the FSB/bus speed. No more than 70 I guess, pounds that is. Is this any good?
I think my current one was very similar to the one in the link below...

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/121112

I paid >£130 for it >18 months ago, but it's been pretty good.

To comment on your link: I have had a Gigabyte one break on me in the past. But that's only one experience from one person. :hmm:
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@ Dell

I don't think I need a quad tbh. None of the things I do utilise a quad core besides SupCom which I only play 1v1 ranked.

That motherboard looks snazzy I guess, but I can't seem to see any differences between motherboards in benefits. Is there a certain spec I should pay attention when looking for a motherboard?
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The main things are: your budget and what kind of components it must take if you upgrade that alone, or what components you are likely to use.

You may also consider spending more than you need to if some of the components are pretty decent, or if you plan on future-proofing a large proportion of your machine.
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Ok, I'm pretty old now =D

Note that my computer has one year and a half now =)

Intel Core 2 eXtreme QX6700 @ 2.666 GHz (I can't overclock, I love the .666 xD) + ASUS Silent Knight 2 (Intel default cooler sucks Oo)

ASUS EN8800GTX @ Origins (i.e. 768 Mo GDDR4, and so on) -note taht I'll SLi soon

ASUS P5N-32 E SLi MotherBoard (PCI-E 2.0 & nVidia 680i SLi Chip)

G.Skill PC 6700

Maxtor 80 GB + Windows Vista Business 32 Bits (I can 64 Bits, but some drivers of my Wi-Fi key won't work :/)

Seagate Baracudda 320 GB + All of my games on it (about 150 ^^)

EnermaX GalaXy @1000W +/- 75% =)

NZXT Zero (Box)

I think that's all =)
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Your 680i supports PCI-E 2.0? Interesting, I don't think mine does, I thought Nvidia only started it on their 780i boards? I might be totally wrong on this one though.
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the updated 680i supports 2.0, i know that much.
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Sounds alright, generally.

Again, as I always say it depends what you currently do on the machine and what you'd like to do, mainly.

And yes, some of the old Intel stock coolers are total shit - the one on my current Pent IV when I bought it 2-3 years ago, well I mean it did the job but it was supposed to be variable. So I'd play some games or whatever and it'd go on 100% speed, then when I quit it never slowed back down. So then I'd be tapping away at a document on Word and all I could hear was some stupid fan making so much damn noise... then I bought a Zalman cooler for it for around £35 off eBuyer - problem solved. :)
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Feeling Completely Undermined.

Hmm, I'm thinking of overclocking my Q6600, mind it is not the energy efficient G0 stepping, which isn't as good, however I'm getting a Thermalright 120 (not Extreme version) cooler with a decent fan on it, and at the minute thats the king or air cooling right now, so I'm hoping to set up a minor overclock if I can.

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If you are going to overclock it, don't hold back. Make that bitch sweat, it can do 3GHz easily.

I booted QX6850 at 4.66GHz. Yeah thats right, passed POST at 4.66GHz. Best processor ever.

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14x FSB lol, and 1.60v is pretty dangerous. Don't worry I don't run it like this lol.



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Feeling Completely Undermined.

Haha, nice, well I have my new rig working now, using it, but I have one problem, the audio isn't working and I think this may be because we didn't connect the fpaudio1 port on the motherboard, the lead was too short to fit around my gfx card and cooler, but none of the reae ports with my either my speakers or headphones either.

Apart from that its great, fast, it starts in around 12 seconds and takes about 5 to shut down :D

I just gotta figure out how to get Photoshop on this PC without paying for it again, can I simply transfer it from my old hard drive?
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Can't you enable onboard audio until you get a cable? I had a problem with one of my SoundBlaster X-Fi's, so I just used the onboard 7.1 until I sorted it out.

As for Photoshop, I think that could work, but you will need to make sure to get all the files. Did you keep the launcher.exe that installs the program? I think you'd need to install it again, but copy the right files it should work like you downloaded it from the web.

Failing that, download a trial and get a crack. I cracked Paint Shop Pro X back in the day!
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Using that method with PS will probably work.

Worst case scenario: You copy everything over from the program files folder, try to run it and it doesn't work or you get an error at launch time. You might need to copy over the registry keys and perhaps even the Installshield information too, just to get it "back" to the way it was originally running on your current machine.
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Ah well, that can wait.

My sound randomly kicked in, I downloaded 2 sets on new audio drivers which showed no results, then 15 mins in to browsing the web and on Steam I heard it beep when someone messaged me, I guess Vista is actually highly complex in that it waits for the user to show that it wants audio by trying to fix it and find solutions before rewarding you with sound :D

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Alright.

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 5200+
Video Card: Integrated Card, Nvidia 6400, 512 MB
Sound: AudioBlaster?
HDD: 500 GB
Drives: DVD/CD Drive

Imagine if they made a drive for blu ray eh? Blu ray computer games. :D
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