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Barack Obama says 57 states; Right wings attack!
Topic Started: Jul 4 2008, 09:23 PM (317 Views)
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That's right, he made a joke about visting 57 jokes and the right wings are now all over here him, claiming that he either doesn't know how many states there are, or he accidentley refered to his 57 islamic states. lol


They're so funny.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
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Seems times are getting a lil' desperate over at the republican camp.

No surprise to see FOX news heavily covering the issue of Obamas apprant ignorance.
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i'm sure he meant to say 47 like someone said.
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I'm pretty sure he was just joking..but then we could both be wrong.
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Yeah, this is much worse than the other candidate who not only uses racial slurs against the Vietnamese(past experience is no excuse when you're about to become president) but is also willing to further put the US in debt by staying in Iraq "as long as it takes" without raising taxes even a little bit.

Yeah, much worse.
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so remind me again why he said "57" states then? I saw the video clip and he didn't seem to be joking, if his tongue just slipped that's possible, but then again we don't want our leader's tongues slipping at inconvenient times do we?

unfortunately in the media any sign of weakness is a large sign of weakness and stupidity.
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Mistake... no one is stupid enough to think there are 57 states... he meant to say 47. Things like this will happen when every waking hour you have is dedicated to campaigning/making speeches.
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Personally I dislike both candidates, I'm pretty sure it was a mistake but then again it's Obama I'm not sure what to think of the guy, on one hand you have a man you want's to change everything that has already been established and want's things to be all equal(sounds like communism), on the other you have a man letting illegals in the country by having U.S agents tell them where there are less guards by the fence, which like all candidates also has made his share of mistake's.
All and all the media blows things way out of perspective, and most magazines, TIME, USA Today claim that they already know who the winner is, it sounds to me that the media is deciding everyones opinions for them.
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I'll forgive a bit of dry humor and a slip of the tongue quicker than I'll forgive someone who wants to keep my country in a perpetual state of war and economic depression.
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Jul 14 2008, 08:49 AM
on one hand you have a man you want's to change everything that has already been established and want's things to be all equal(sounds like communism)
That's dumb. No really, it's really dumb. Until you have ANY kind of idea what Communism is(I reccomend reading Das Kapital or at least The Communistic Manifesto) do not EVER make any kind of dumb statement like this. Obama isn't left-wing; only in the fucked-up US scale which is far more right than pretty much every other country except China.
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on one hand you have a man you want's to change everything that has already been established and want's things to be all equal(sounds like communism)
That's dumb. No really, it's really dumb. Until you have ANY kind of idea what Communism is(I reccomend reading Das Kapital or at least The Communistic Manifesto) do not EVER make any kind of dumb statement like this. Obama isn't left-wing; only in the fucked-up US scale which is far more right than pretty much every other country except China.
Seconded.

I don't claim to know shit about communism (except for what has been taught in school), but I do know enough to understand not to make perjury comparisons to communism.
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Well it sounds like he's pushing for a command economy,(State,government controls and regulates the economy) like what Stalin had.
and Communism is run with no socail class in society there is no rich or poor (if your a doctor you make the same as a cashier) anyway from a lot of Obama's first speeches he talked about we need to do away with lower class, second class and higher class citizens sound's kinda the same for me. BUT ANYWAYS I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SOME STUPID DEBATE, THERES A SAYING YOU CAN'T WIN A ARGUEMENT WHEN DEBATING ABOUT POLITICS AND RELIGION. so either you agree or disagree and move on back on topic.
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I had a good laugh about that. It was a mistake and funny one at that, but a lot of politicians make mistakes in speeches and rallies.

I mean look at this video of our president

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1WPF9cklFHY
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Jul 14 2008, 07:27 PM
Well it sounds like he's pushing for a command economy,(State,government controls and regulates the economy) like what Stalin had.
Yeah, you got no clue. Not only did Stalin do a lot much different in ways that words can't convey; STALIN WAS NOT A COMMUNIST AND NEVER WAS THE SOVIET UNION EITHER.

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and Communism is run with no socail class in society there is no rich or poor (if your a doctor you make the same as a cashier) anyway from a lot of Obama's first speeches he talked about we need to do away with lower class, second class and higher class citizens sound's kinda the same for me.

I'm gonna ask you this before I respond any further to your comments about Obama's alledged communism: Have you ever read anything of Marx' works? Anything at all?

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BUT ANYWAYS I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SOME STUPID DEBATE, THERES A SAYING YOU CAN'T WIN A ARGUEMENT WHEN DEBATING ABOUT POLITICS AND RELIGION. so either you agree or disagree and move on back on topic.

That saying is wrong. You are completely wrong here because you don't know what the hell you're supposed to talk about; something that shows in your two latest posts in this thread. So yeah, you're wrong. Don't ever vote please.
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So what is the lesson, everyone?

Universal health care for anyone who needs it = Communism, and is bad.

Economic enslavement to the top 5% of the fattest, wealthiest fucks in the world = Good.
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How gives a fuck honestly? It's all politics and bull shit. I don't trust either of the candidates and think they are both shit, but to egg on stuff like this is completely ignorant. 57 states....bah even me who leans more to the right can tell it was either a joke or a mess up.
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Yeah, you got no clue. Not only did Stalin do a lot much different in ways that words can't convey; STALIN WAS NOT A COMMUNIST AND NEVER WAS THE SOVIET UNION EITHER.


HAHA. aahh haha this is either got to be the dumbest thing or the funniest thing I ever heard, are you kidding me, anybody who has at least surely gone to grade school, knows what you just said is a joke.
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I'm gonna ask you this before I respond any further to your comments about Obama's alledged communism: Have you ever read anything of Marx' works? Anything at all?

Ill be honest No, until you sparked my interest in this book so I read pages one of the Preface and introduction of The Communist Manifesto . and in it proves what you are saying is wrong, after I read those two pages I didn't need to read anymore. because it states in your own reference "Millions of the Soviet Union, China,Cuba and Eastern Europe live under Communist rule" there your only defense has proven you wrong.
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That saying is wrong. You are completely wrong here because you don't know what the hell you're supposed to talk about; something that shows in your two latest posts in this thread. So yeah, you're wrong. Don't ever vote please.

And then you say my saying wrong, ohh man you are so funny, please go get some education before pointing out other peoples facts. oh and I am going to vote, and with a smile on my face.

PS: FOR PETE'S SAKES I WILL GET BACK ON TOPIC: I just find it funny because I believe on a playback he says "ALL 57 states" so either he meant that there are 57 states or he meant there is 47 either way I think it's funny but politicians are always slipping up showing mistakes or their I.Q. level.
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BUT ANYWAYS I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SOME STUPID DEBATE, THERES A SAYING YOU CAN'T WIN A ARGUEMENT WHEN DEBATING ABOUT POLITICS AND RELIGION. so either you agree or disagree and move on back on topic.
Then why do you keep arguing everything anyone else says towards you?! You've already stated your opinion about the topic and how you don't want it to be some stupid debate but you keep responding to what other people are saying and arguing with you so why do you keep arguing back?
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you have a man you want's to change everything that has already been established and want's things to be all equal(sounds like communism)


No, it sounds like common sense, please don't bash communism based on what you know about China or the Soviet Union, read The Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engles, ISBN 9780140447576.

On topic, he obviously meant to say 47, if he genuinely thought there were 57 states, would he really be running for president?
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yeah my bad for continuing that pointless debate I just had to get that off my chest, it's just I cant stand when people don't present facts and sway the truth to fit their understanding anyhow, I almost don't think it matters anymore, I believe Obama, has this in the bag already, I mean I live in a conservative state but so many people are moving in from out of state and are changing that, plus he suposable "appeals to the younger generation", but whatever.
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