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Barack Obama says 57 states; Right wings attack!
Topic Started: Jul 4 2008, 09:23 PM (344 Views)
Register	Jul 15 2008, 10:17 AM Post #21
Master of My Own Mind Posts: 1,323 Group: Members Member #2,187 Joined: May 9, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Gray Guile Jul 15 2008, 03:16 AM HAHA. aahh haha this is either got to be the dumbest thing or the funniest thing I ever heard, are you kidding me, anybody who has at least surely gone to grade school, knows what you just said is a joke. No, it isn't. Read up on communism and what Cuba, the Soviet Union, China, and North Korea is/was. There has not been a single communist nation in the world. Cuba is/was Leninist, the SU shifted between Stalinism and Leninism, while China and NK are Maoist. Neither of those are communist ideoligies, partly because they fail in the most basic of communist tenents; everyone is equal. But then, you went to school in the most right-wing of right-wing nations so you've been properly indoctrinated. Good call, idiot. Quote: Ill be honest No, until you sparked my interest in this book so I read pages one of the Preface and introduction of The Communist Manifesto . and in it proves what you are saying is wrong, after I read those two pages I didn't need to read anymore. because it states in your own reference "Millions of the Soviet Union, China,Cuba and Eastern Europe live under Communist rule" there your only defense has proven you wrong. HAHAHA you really are dumb. You read the preface, not written by Marx(how do I know that? BECAUSE THE SOVIET UNION DIDN'T EXIST IN HIS LIFETIME) and wrote off the book because of that. If you had read the book you'd realize your error and just shut up but it shows that you didn't; it really does. Quote: And then you say my saying wrong, ohh man you are so funny, please go get some education before pointing out other peoples facts. oh and I am going to vote, and with a smile on my face. You really believe yourself do you? Let me ask you another question: Say I punched you in the face. That's a fact, right? Yeah, thought so because it is proveable and definite. That means that I can't wishwash it by saying that in my opinion I didn't punch you in the face. Same situation here. You supply false facts, distortions of facts, and outright lies to push your easily refutable agenda and then try to wishwash it by calling it opinions when it isn't because they're wrong because they've been proven worse. Oh yeah; I got education. I got a history degree and getting one for Political Philosophy too; you know, the thing that Marx is considered one of the corner stones. I'm no communist; I just hate when idiots apply communism to completely different things. Let me give you an extremely basic course in why the four nations are NOT communist: Soviet Union: Leading Elite and Oppression of the People People's Republic of China: Leading Elite and Market Economy Cuba: Leading Elite and Class Distinctions North Korea: Leading Elite and Deathcamps; Class Distinctions, and lots of other shit: Communism: No Leading Elite, No Class Distinctions, No Market Economy, No Deathcamps. So yeah, communism has never been used as a ruling form; only corruptions of it. Edited by Register, Jul 15 2008, 10:19 AM.
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Samuraisedge18	Jul 15 2008, 11:22 AM Post #22
Lunatic Wizard Posts: 801 Group: FoxHound Member #6,599 Joined: December 25, 2007	Register Jul 15 2008, 10:17 AM Gray Guile Jul 15 2008, 03:16 AM HAHA. aahh haha this is either got to be the dumbest thing or the funniest thing I ever heard, are you kidding me, anybody who has at least surely gone to grade school, knows what you just said is a joke. No, it isn't. Read up on communism and what Cuba, the Soviet Union, China, and North Korea is/was. There has not been a single communist nation in the world. Cuba is/was Leninist, the SU shifted between Stalinism and Leninism, while China and NK are Maoist. Neither of those are communist ideoligies, partly because they fail in the most basic of communist tenents; everyone is equal. But then, you went to school in the most right-wing of right-wing nations so you've been properly indoctrinated. Good call, idiot. Quote: Ill be honest No, until you sparked my interest in this book so I read pages one of the Preface and introduction of The Communist Manifesto . and in it proves what you are saying is wrong, after I read those two pages I didn't need to read anymore. because it states in your own reference "Millions of the Soviet Union, China,Cuba and Eastern Europe live under Communist rule" there your only defense has proven you wrong. HAHAHA you really are dumb. You read the preface, not written by Marx(how do I know that? BECAUSE THE SOVIET UNION DIDN'T EXIST IN HIS LIFETIME) and wrote off the book because of that. If you had read the book you'd realize your error and just shut up but it shows that you didn't; it really does. Quote: And then you say my saying wrong, ohh man you are so funny, please go get some education before pointing out other peoples facts. oh and I am going to vote, and with a smile on my face. You really believe yourself do you? Let me ask you another question: Say I punched you in the face. That's a fact, right? Yeah, thought so because it is proveable and definite. That means that I can't wishwash it by saying that in my opinion I didn't punch you in the face. Same situation here. You supply false facts, distortions of facts, and outright lies to push your easily refutable agenda and then try to wishwash it by calling it opinions when it isn't because they're wrong because they've been proven worse. Oh yeah; I got education. I got a history degree and getting one for Political Philosophy too; you know, the thing that Marx is considered one of the corner stones. I'm no communist; I just hate when idiots apply communism to completely different things. Let me give you an extremely basic course in why the four nations are NOT communist: Soviet Union: Leading Elite and Oppression of the People People's Republic of China: Leading Elite and Market Economy Cuba: Leading Elite and Class Distinctions North Korea: Leading Elite and Deathcamps; Class Distinctions, and lots of other shit: Communism: No Leading Elite, No Class Distinctions, No Market Economy, No Deathcamps. So yeah, communism has never been used as a ruling form; only corruptions of it. well is that why they say communism never works? the ideals never even get started?



Register	Jul 15 2008, 01:50 PM Post #23
Master of My Own Mind Posts: 1,323 Group: Members Member #2,187 Joined: May 9, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Samuraisedge18 Jul 15 2008, 11:22 AM well is that why they say communism never works? the ideals never even get started? Pretty much. For Communism to work everyone would have to have just the right amount of ambition. Not too little, as society would stagnate, but not too much, as then they'd seek power, fame, and money.
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OuterJaccob	Jul 15 2008, 02:10 PM Post #24
loves you Posts: 1,215 Group: FoxHound Member #7,889 Joined: June 5, 2008 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots	Communism could only work if people were willing to let it work, unfortunately, some people will always want to be above others financially, in a true communist nation all companies would be publicly owned, but people don't want that, because they're greedy, they'd rather a select few rich people own the shares, it's the same with the wage thing, anyone who thinks a doctor or a lawyer should get paid more than a cleaner or a plumber is just silly.
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Soriddo Suneku	Jul 15 2008, 05:28 PM Post #25
Because J. Moses Browning didn't invent a .46 Posts: 3,561 Group: OH Global Moderator Member #2,248 Joined: May 11, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Not that it's either here or now, but Marx was quite displeased with how Russia adopted his philosophy and warped it around benefiting the aristocracy in power. What they put in place of his ideas, were not his ambitions for socialism. Anyhow, please get back to topic, fellows. And no more flaming one another, regardless of your views. Debate civilly.
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Register	Jul 15 2008, 05:40 PM Post #26
Master of My Own Mind Posts: 1,323 Group: Members Member #2,187 Joined: May 9, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Soriddo Suneku Jul 15 2008, 05:28 PM Not that it's either here or now, but Marx was quite displeased with how Russia adopted his philosophy and warped it around benefiting the aristocracy in power. What they put in place of his ideas, were not his ambitions for socialism. Anyhow, please get back to topic, fellows. And no more flaming one another, regardless of your views. Debate civilly. I'm willing to take him serious the moment he stops lying about proven facts. Make him do that first and I'll deal with him as I deal with the rest.
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OcelotSnake	Jul 15 2008, 06:50 PM Post #27
I'm the bit where Tarantino's dick turns into The Thing Posts: 4,184 Group: DC Emeritus Member #1,223 Joined: September 6, 2005 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty	Gray Guile Jul 15 2008, 03:16 AM register Yeah, you got no clue. Not only did Stalin do a lot much different in ways that words can't convey; STALIN WAS NOT A COMMUNIST AND NEVER WAS THE SOVIET UNION EITHER. HAHA. aahh haha this is either got to be the dumbest thing or the funniest thing I ever heard, are you kidding me, anybody who has at least surely gone to grade school, knows what you just said is a joke. Behold your mind. Listen to Register he's talking sense in this instance (save for the niggling fact that true communism is a utopianists wet dream hence why it's never been achieved). @On topic: Has the American media got nothing better to report on? Patriotism is overated at any rate, it's a shame Americans are so obsessed with it.



Register	Jul 15 2008, 08:19 PM Post #28
Master of My Own Mind Posts: 1,323 Group: Members Member #2,187 Joined: May 9, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Hey, I'm no Communist. I'm quite opposed to Communism actually; I'm a syndicalist. I mean, just look at my bloody avatar.
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The Departed	Jul 15 2008, 11:36 PM Post #29
^^Give back my watch dammit! Posts: 2,275 Group: Outer Heaven Member #4,238 Joined: February 10, 2007 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots	Oh my hairy nipples are burning right now because of this. Really, I need ice. He said 57 states, oh he's certainly not the man we want as president anymore is he? Or he's just a complete retard, right? Not to mention his terrorist fist bump he pulled with his wife and in front of the camera. Or he was just saying boo-yah that time, and maybe he was just joking or dicking around when he said 57 states. Honest to God guys, it's not a big deal what so ever. The media is posting so much bullshit against Obama over the simplest, simplest horse defecation. That there is even a debate on why he said 57 states is just straight up idiocracy at its' finest, and I'm not joking when I say this, this is legitimately idiotic of the media, and of any of you who are making a thing out of this.
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Soriddo Suneku	Jul 16 2008, 12:45 AM Post #30
Because J. Moses Browning didn't invent a .46 Posts: 3,561 Group: OH Global Moderator Member #2,248 Joined: May 11, 2006 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid	Quote: Make him do that first and I'll deal with him as I deal with the rest. It's not my job to. It is however, to keep flame wars from starting. The authenticity of his post content is entirely up to you to dismiss and/or invalidate. I don't care how you do it, so long as you do it civilly.
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