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Mercenaries; Money Hungry Or Something Else?
Topic Started: Jul 8 2008, 08:56 PM (611 Views)
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Jul 18 2008, 07:51 PM
There will always be idiots who feel they have a need to fight in a war, nobody needs to fight a war, cause whichever side you fight for, at the end of the day it is wrong. Theres no excuse for it anymore, back in WWII, the propaganda really did have an effect on people, cause it was really quite new then, and was highly effective, now its easy to see through it.
WWII WASN'T full of propaganda. Ok to be fair you had some, but in case you didnt notice Hitler really did want to kill all the jews and such and make a 1 world 1 race.
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WWII WASN'T full of propaganda. Ok to be fair you had some, but in case you didnt notice Hitler really did want to kill all the jews and such and make a 1 world 1 race.
With this comment you've clearly spoken you have no idea how WWII was administrated on both sides and as such shouldn't take part of the discussion.
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Go on then. Tell me EXACTLY how WWII was administrated on both sides with excruciating detail as you seem to know so much.

Go on.

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Never said I knew it fully(but not that far enough considering I've studied WWII for over twelve years) but the fact that you're dumb enough to say that WWII wasn't full of propaganda shows that you clearly know jack shit about it.
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And your post shows me you can't read.
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Ok to be fair you had some


Try to start reading posts fully.
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And your post shows me you can't read.
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Ok to be fair you had some


Try to start reading posts fully.
Actually each side had waves of propaganda. To claim it was 'some' is down right outrageous.

It was even in cartoons.




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Forgot about this topic but Jiro is right(wow, I feel all weird and tingly saying that ;)).

Also, the one instance you mention about Hitler and the Jews being propaganda material is by large very wrong because the outside world didn't care or know about what Hitler did to the Jews until after the war.
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The thing with mercenaries is that if they do something wrong for instance, and yet, are hired by a nation's military or whatever, the nation itself, won't get the blame, or am I wrong?
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Well, essentially in a lot of ways, yes.
Mercs are not part of the official military, therefore they are not included in many statistics, such as casualties on either side.
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Jul 12 2008, 05:09 AM
Companies like Blackwater will generally sneer at you unless you have exceptional military and intelligence experience. Your odds of getting hired are significantly lessened if you do not have experience in some form of Spec Ops units, or at least private intelligence.

Yeah although I agree that a lot of people are ex-military I have to disagree about that. A lot of Mercenaries are not experienced Special Ops Operators, that's why Blackwater used to have the reputation that their mercenaries were bodyguards with a couple of hours of gun training.I know most of them are ex-military but to say that unless they were in Special Ops then they won't get aj ob is highly unrealistic.
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Yeah although I agree that a lot of people are ex-military I have to disagree about that. A lot of Mercenaries are not experienced Special Ops Operators, that's why Blackwater used to have the reputation that their mercenaries were bodyguards with a couple of hours of gun training.

Ahem.

I didn't say that all mercenaries were former Spec Ops, I said that Blackwater will generally sneer at you if you do not have experience in Spec Ops or it's equivalent. There are a lot of average soldiers who cannot get on board there.

Have you even seen their application?
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"Completed or served at least three (3) years in the military, law enforcement, or protective security from the private sector.
- One (1) year, of the three, shall include experience in protective security assignments."
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Yes, these are your minimum qualifications.
It doesn't mean that you will get snatched right up when there are people with a far higher record applying for the same position. You're competiting with SEALs for the job when you apply here.

Hell, I have 4 years experience in the private sector in intelligence, and if I thought it would get me in that fast, I'd have already applied myself. Instead I'm going to be taking up a second language and going to a few field schools for my resume, and so I'm a more well balanced asset to whoever hires me on.
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Yes, these are your minimum qualifications.
It doesn't mean that you will get snatched right up when there are people with a far higher record applying for the same position. You're competiting with SEALs for the job when you apply here.

Hell, I have 4 years experience in the private sector in intelligence, and if I thought it would get me in that fast, I'd have already applied myself. Instead I'm going to be taking up a second language and going to a few field schools for my resume, and so I'm a more well balanced asset to whoever hires me on.

I'd be more worried applying against Army Special Forces who were Rangers before, than Navy SEALS, unless you're applying for Blackwater. I'm also sure there are more experienced people out there than Navy SEALS, although they are elite the people that apply for the SEALS (unless they were in other branches of the military before) have never seen combat before.
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Ok...

I'm not going to get into a debate on which branch's Spec Ops teams are superior to one another. They're all equally formidable elite teams that do jobs that no one else can do. To be honest, none of them are really all that different from one another, aside from a few minor specialties that one or the other train in more than another would.

As far as debating SEAL efficiency in combat situations, go ask one yourself and let me know how that works out for you.

In short, when you're a Green Beret, a member of USMC Force Recon, a Ranger, Special Air Service, or a SEAL itself, then I'll listen to your opinion about which one is the better unit.

Now back on topic, to mercenaries.

All those other guys you mentioned are also top candidates for applying to Blackwater. So yes, you would be competing against them for the job. I used SEALs as an example because I didn't want to waste time writing in every single exceptionally trained unit, and it's generally non-debated regarding how good they are at what they do.
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