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who would VICTOR in such a battle ??
OCELOT 45 (77.6%)
VOLGIN 11 (19%)
DRAW-would have killed eachother 2 (3.4%)
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OCELOT & VOLGIN; the tension between them
Topic Started: May 7 2007, 08:24 PM (990 Views)
raiDen_X
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did anybody notice the [ugLy]tension between ocelot and volgin ???
or was it just me ???


it seemed like these two were gonna go at it....on more than one occasion

volgin being an obvious ''asshole'' taunted ocelot with his words
and his dominating personality
.....but you notice how ocelot didnt back down from him
-he showed his respect as an officer or whatever but he didnt show any signs of intimidation or fear towards volgin.

ocelot looked like he was getting sick of his shit.....and acted like he wanted 2 kill him.....so what i wanted 2 ask was....if they would have gone at it....who do you believe would have won or killed who ?
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Sorry dude, but I personally think this topic really does'nt make sense, more of your topic's dont, and do something about your spelling. Yes there definetely was a tension but they never did battle, Volgin would probably kick his ass at that time.
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We already know how it went when Volgin tried to zap Ocelot.

He couldn't land a hit. Ocelot was even quicker than the lightning and fired off shots to distract the bolt and diffuse it. His other gun on his back (if he's not carrying 3) would have been enough to put a bullet in his brain with that accuracy.

Also, he's a recoil genius, and we all know Volgin's major weakspot, the rear ; )
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Ocelot would have kicked Volgin's ass. volgin's skills never impressed me and as No-onSpecial said, Ocelot could have owned Volgin at that time.
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Ocelot > Volgin, nuff´ said!
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Now as much as I think that Ocelot is a much cooler character than Volgin, I still feel Volgin would kick his ass ''at that time''

Volgin could easily distract his bullets, and Ocelot would have never gotten one hit on Volgin. Volgin could also totally beat him up and fire those bullets at him, Ocelot would'nt know how to avoid those. I still think Volgin Would kick Ocelots ass.
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May 11 2007, 07:38 PM
Now as much as I think that Ocelot is a much cooler character than Volgin, I still feel Volgin would kick his ass ''at that time''

Volgin could easily distract his bullets, and Ocelot would have never gotten one hit on Volgin. Volgin could also totally beat him up and fire those bullets at him, Ocelot would'nt know how to avoid those. I still think Volgin Would kick Ocelots ass.

Lol yeah but Ocelot knows Volgin's weaknesses. All he'd have to do is simply fire one shot at a steel pipe and bounce it off to hit Volgin in the back of the head. Ocelot is only a teenager still and he has a way better understanding of combat than that freak.
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Also, he's a recoil genius


You mean ricochet genius? Recoil is what causes the gun to kick up after it is fired.
I also concur that Ocelot was the superior soldier. Cheap gimmicks and tricks only get you so far.
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Soriddo Suneku
May 12 2007, 04:10 AM
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Also, he's a recoil genius


You mean ricochet genius? Recoil is what causes the gun to kick up after it is fired.
I also concur that Ocelot was the superior soldier. Cheap gimmicks and tricks only get you so far.

same here my freind,ocelot would own volgin,one shot off a wall to rocochet back to volgin in his head,owned,nuff said right there son :ocelot:
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May 12 2007, 04:10 AM
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Also, he's a recoil genius


You mean ricochet genius? Recoil is what causes the gun to kick up after it is fired.
I also concur that Ocelot was the superior soldier. Cheap gimmicks and tricks only get you so far.

Oops. I should find a spell checker and rig it to execute past 1am. And yeah, Ocelot is the perfect weapon against Volgin. Although, just one bolt would be all it takes to really fry Ocelot, and shred his body thanks to the .44 bullet belt wrapped around him.
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May 12 2007, 05:33 AM
Soriddo Suneku
May 12 2007, 04:10 AM
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Also, he's a recoil genius


You mean ricochet genius? Recoil is what causes the gun to kick up after it is fired.
I also concur that Ocelot was the superior soldier. Cheap gimmicks and tricks only get you so far.

Oops. I should find a spell checker and rig it to execute past 1am. And yeah, Ocelot is the perfect weapon against Volgin. Although, just one bolt would be all it takes to really fry Ocelot, and shred his body thanks to the .44 bullet belt wrapped around him.

yeah but ocelot doesn't carry a magnum,he has to s.a.a.s and he has .45 rounds,not .44
and ocelot can shot away the lightning bolts in like 2 seconds,he demonstrated this when you fight volgin
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May 12 2007, 05:38 AM
yeah but ocelot doesn't carry a magnum,he has to s.a.a.s and he has .45 rounds,not .44
and ocelot can shot away the lightning bolts in like 2 seconds,he demonstrated this when you fight volgin

I just said that.... And whatever the caliber, even a 9X19mm would still mess him up bad if they were all set off literally attached to his body in a long string. Ocelot owns, but all it takes is one bolt of lightning to detonate them and destroy him.

Also, Volgin was exhausted during the fight with Snake. He wasn't tired just because Ocelot shut him down that one time. If he kept going with the lightning rape, I'm sure he'd land a hit.

Still, in charisma and skill, Ocelot rules.
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If Ocelot could kill Volgin that easily why did'nt he? Alright dumb question he made a promise to The Boss to not kill Snake, that's why he did'nt shot Snake when asked. Ocelot was still young remember? If they would fight that they both have enough energy at the begginning, Volgin would win. If Volgin were to fight Ocelot at this time, Ocelot is now skilled a lot more then before, Ocelot would kill him, yes.
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May 12 2007, 02:32 PM
If Ocelot could kill Volgin that easily why did'nt he?

cause volgin is his commanding officer,and if he kills him to whole army of volgin would be after him,well maybe not the ocelot unit,but still
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Ocelot would beat Volgin because not even the legendary Big Boss or Solid Snake could kill Ocelot. Big Boss easily beat Volgin so Ocelot could easily beat him as well. Also, The Boss handled Volgin like he was a paper doll. I think the fear and the end could also beat Volgin.

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Dunno Volgin could keep throwing bolts at Ocelot, get in the Shagohod and grind him up with those drill tracks. Done and dusted. (How shit would that be <_< )
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get in the Shagohod and grind him up with those drill tracks. Done and dusted.

Thats great, if Volgin is always walking around with a Shagohod in his pocket, just in case Ocelot tries to attack him.
The thing is, I think alot of us are forgetting one distinct advantage (and I do consider it a legitimate tactic) that Ocelot possesses over Volgin.

Which is: Timing.

Ocelot always waits for the best time and place to attack his enemies. He waits until their chips are down and then he reveals just how predatory and cat-like he can be. Like a lion finishing off a wounded water buffalo.

Ocelot wasn't stupid enough to take Volgin head on when Volgin had the advantage, he knew that there would be a strong risk to his well being. So he waited for him to be weak and just at the right moment he showed his prowess.
Volgin does not expect this in the least and therefore it is one of Ocelot's greatest weapons.

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get in the Shagohod and grind him up with those drill tracks. Done and dusted.

Thats great, if Volgin is always walking around with a Shagohod in his pocket, just in case Ocelot tries to attack him.
The thing is, I think alot of us are forgetting one distinct advantage (and I do consider it a legitimate tactic) that Ocelot possesses over Volgin.

Which is: Timing.

Ocelot always waits for the best time and place to attack his enemies. He waits until their chips are down and then he reveals just how predatory and cat-like he can be. Like a lion finishing off a wounded water buffalo.

Ocelot wasn't stupid enough to take Volgin head on when Volgin had the advantage, he knew that there would be a strong risk to his well being. So he waited for him to be weak and just at the right moment he showed his prowess.
Volgin does not expect this in the least and therefore it is one of Ocelot's greatest weapons.

The element of treachery is the name of the game.
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Also, The Boss handled Volgin like he was a paper doll. I think the fear and the end could also beat Volgin.

Big Boss did not beat him with ease, it's just we did. In the cinematics they're both very tired and sore, panting for breath. Snake has to struggle all his strength just to run outside of the silo, stopping to catch his breath. Volgin was powerful, enough to power the Shagohad tank by himself and take all those hits. Also, you can't say that just anyone could beat volgin. What about the fury? He'd fry the shit out of Volgin because you can't do anything to pressurized rocket fuel combusting in your direction but run. However people like The End or The Pain would be screwed.

It's all about attributes really, and ocelot doesn't really have anything that could help him, it was just that he's cooler.

Btw, has anyone else ever tried to deflect his bolts too? I once got out the M63 and started firing, when the bolt heading for me just discharged. Maybe it had a glitchy range, but it was pretty cool. Havn't done it since.
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Ocelot didn't react because he had to keep his cover and make off with the real philoshers legacy.
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