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Topic Started: Jul 22 2008, 10:29 PM (369 Views)
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I don't find MGO too bad for kids, not compared to playing Resistance online. Man, that is scary. Some of those kids are seriously mental. One 12 year old spent the whole game panting like he was in the Exorcist. Soooo much trash-talking in little squeaky voices, pretty funny really. Still, I hate them. XD
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Konoha no Jiraiya-Sama
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it's just a lame weapon, that seriously, requires no skill at all


I seriously beg to differ. But, in your defense yes it does take no skill camping in a closely knitted area waiting for someone to round the corner. But again, when your holding your handy assault rifle, and I weave through all of your bullets dodging every single headshot you intended to land on me, I think I more than deserved to shoot you 2x with my shotgun. As is, the shotgun is basically the worst weapon in the game. Because as I said earlier, you might as well try to get 3rd base with the person your killing otherwise your a sitting duck with a giant Stick that just makes noise.

Then there's always the alternate case. If you spot me from a distance with your trusty assault rifle, and I weave up to you dodging headshots popping in and out of my box, and by the time I get to you the very last bullet, you fire is a headshot on me. You still deserved to die.

The shotgun as I see it, is a very limiting weapon. You can only use it at a close range. And if you wanna talk about No skill, lets talk about the knife considering we can Auto-Aim with it now. Not quite like the old days of MGO1. And with the knife (even after being 'nerfed') its actually even easier thanks to the instant stun function on it. But back to the shotgun, the shotgun has no real benefits other than it can "stun" its victim for some time. That's it. Whether its the knock back (which I've learned my lesson in doing. Its a bad choice on my part) or the Auto Aim stun frame. Also even with the slugs and a scope don't expecting to get any Headshots either. I know you can do it with slugs believe me I know. But they're alot harder to get.

But look at the assualt rifles. You can use CQC with them. Which is nice. The clip size is usually bigger than 20 rounds and the rate of fire and stopping power isn't too bad either. Also all you have to do is put their head in the middle of that OTS ring and fire or even just around their neck area and the recoil will take care of the rest. The face remains that Assault rifles are still the most versatile weapon in this entire game. As its been proven to me (As an avid shotgun user) that If I'm not careful my face is gonna be eating lead for the next few days even in the "sweet" range for a shotgun.

So honestly I really don't wanna hear the Shotgun takes no skill. This isn't MGO1 where the Shotgun was an unstoppable Juggernaut that everyone feared. And this definitely ain't Rainbow Six Vegas, where the shotgun are about as realistic and amazing as they actually are with the effective range and everything.
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Like I said in another thread - the enemy of every online game is over competitivness and the simple fact is people would rather win a match than have fun which is really really sad. I too sometimes use the Mosin Nagant and Shotgun but I have never found myself being kicked out of games. Konami really need to get rid of the voting for kicks thing, it should be up to the host, that way if there is a host who is a twat who keeps kicking people for invalid reasons, he will build up a low rating and people wont join his games.
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Jul 23 2008, 03:11 PM
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it's just a lame weapon, that seriously, requires no skill at all


I seriously beg to differ. But, in your defense yes it does take no skill camping in a closely knitted area waiting for someone to round the corner. But again, when your holding your handy assault rifle, and I weave through all of your bullets dodging every single headshot you intended to land on me, I think I more than deserved to shoot you 2x with my shotgun. As is, the shotgun is basically the worst weapon in the game. Because as I said earlier, you might as well try to get 3rd base with the person your killing otherwise your a sitting duck with a giant Stick that just makes noise.

Then there's always the alternate case. If you spot me from a distance with your trusty assault rifle, and I weave up to you dodging headshots popping in and out of my box, and by the time I get to you the very last bullet, you fire is a headshot on me. You still deserved to die.

The shotgun as I see it, is a very limiting weapon. You can only use it at a close range. And if you wanna talk about No skill, lets talk about the knife considering we can Auto-Aim with it now. Not quite like the old days of MGO1. And with the knife (even after being 'nerfed') its actually even easier thanks to the instant stun function on it. But back to the shotgun, the shotgun has no real benefits other than it can "stun" its victim for some time. That's it. Whether its the knock back (which I've learned my lesson in doing. Its a bad choice on my part) or the Auto Aim stun frame. Also even with the slugs and a scope don't expecting to get any Headshots either. I know you can do it with slugs believe me I know. But they're alot harder to get.

But look at the assualt rifles. You can use CQC with them. Which is nice. The clip size is usually bigger than 20 rounds and the rate of fire and stopping power isn't too bad either. Also all you have to do is put their head in the middle of that OTS ring and fire or even just around their neck area and the recoil will take care of the rest. The face remains that Assault rifles are still the most versatile weapon in this entire game. As its been proven to me (As an avid shotgun user) that If I'm not careful my face is gonna be eating lead for the next few days even in the "sweet" range for a shotgun.

So honestly I really don't wanna hear the Shotgun takes no skill. This isn't MGO1 where the Shotgun was an unstoppable Juggernaut that everyone feared. And this definitely ain't Rainbow Six Vegas, where the shotgun are about as realistic and amazing as they actually are with the effective range and everything.
Yeah, I understand what you mean, but I was basing it on my opinion, Surely everyone else prefers other weapons, I just can't seem to get along with the shotgun. I remember playing this Shotgun-Only Match, and that was just terrible, I never played with the Saiga-12 though, is that one better then the M870-Custom?
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Ugh, I've had similar I've been accused of 'hacking' the game because i can take someone out with a GSR or SVD from about 5 feet away with one shot to the head while they spray wildly at my legs with an M4 custom and still live.

It also usually ends up with me being booted and the next game the SVD being locked so they can run round with their M4's spraying wildly round the head till they get a lucky shot.
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Yeah. I don't really hate the M4 Custom either. Its a good gun! But its just the kids that shoot randomly that magically kill me anyway. If that's the case I might as well just grab the M60E4 or w/e its called and just spray with that! D:

Its almost as if this game just simply rewards (in)accuracy at a mutual distance. Over not dying. Which when I think about it, is pretty lame. =\

But hopefully once I get the expansion (fairly soon I hope seeing as I can access the shop now whenever I want) I can just play at Ambush Alley, Brown Town (Copper Town Conflict), and Tomb of Tubes where I feel is the most all around for all weapons and such. Well atleast I know that's true for A.A and B.Town, T.T I have no idea about.
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Jul 23 2008, 02:33 PM
I agree with you on some points. It is rather stupid to kill someone when using a certain weapon, but... I must say, in all honesty. The shotgun is a shit weapon, it's just a lame weapon, that seriously, requires no skill at all. Use it if you must, I don't care, I rarely encounter people using it, and if I do I usually kill them faster then they kill me. The most annoying part on the shotgun is the idiotic 'stun' you get when shot, someone can keep shooting at you, and you can't do shit. When you finally managed to aim at someone using a shotgun, he'll just shoot you, so you get the stun, and therefore: lose your aim. Which is just the most annoying thing ever.

And now about the Mosin Nagant, sure, it's a good weapon, that requires a lot of skill. But why? I don't understand why anyone should use it, it's pretty much useless. Getting stunned is the most annoying shit ever, seriously, I'd rather get killed then get stunned. It;s ridicilous, your team hardly ever helps you, especially in the line of sniper fire. The time to wake up is ridicilous, and most of the time, when I'm almost awake, some retard comes along, stands in front of me, aims exactly on my head, and shoots. They need to fix the time, or just make it go to 2 psyche bars, not all 4.

Then again, I would never kick someone for using those weapons in combat, it's just annoying at times.

Also, that stuff about 14 year old kids doing shit like that, sure some do, but that's bullshit. There are people who are 20+ who do shit like that, it's not just 'kids'.
Thank you, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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