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if the partiots were real...?; what do u think would happen
Topic Started: Aug 23 2008, 11:11 PM (872 Views)
leeat
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I bet they are real and Kojima is the leader right now
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MGSnake
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If they were real then for some reason no one would be able to say the name of New England's football team.
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Aug 23 2008, 11:48 PM
You wouldn't notice a thing, that's the point really, the masses generally have no idea it's happening
The general masses don't, but its kind of hard to hide the manipulation of the economy and hijacking of the political system to those who are aware.
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Aug 25 2008, 08:27 PM
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Aug 23 2008, 11:48 PM
You wouldn't notice a thing, that's the point really, the masses generally have no idea it's happening
The general masses don't, but its kind of hard to hide the manipulation of the economy and hijacking of the political system to those who are aware.
And it's even harder to prove something is wrong with the system if there is nothing on the outside as proof, The Patriots if they were real would control EVERYTHING, stock figures could be manipulated to show whatever the people wanted, political systems are never a certain thing, politics change so often people wouldn't notice something if it was done subtley and without too much controversy
Cry 'havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war.
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Wouldn't doubt it..
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they very well could exist right now, the world is pretty fucked up as it is...
wait....

IRL SOLID SNAKE????!!?!?!!11/
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If it existed, you would have been smoking too much pot LOL
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I always think about Illuminati when I hear the final codec-conversation on MGS2 with the JFK AI x) He says so many mind-bending things :P
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OP: You've inadvertently created a new term in the subject line — "Partiots" — idiots in political parties. I will be using this term, I believe.

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It's amazing how many things from the MGS universe actually come true. Such as ID tag weapons, Stealth camo, Walking robots, bisexual vampires.
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Heh, you may have a point. A lot of these things were pre-existing and/or based on futuristic assertions that serve as an interesting hypothetical paradigm, though. Kojima and co. were just perceptive and and Foxily clever enough to project this in an imaginative way. Japan being a sort of technological epicenter has something to do with this, I am doubtless.


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And when you look at how similar G.W. Bush and and George Sears look, it makes a lot of sense. :)
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I just got a very funny picture in my head of Bush in Solidus' suit. Ha. Photoshop, anyone? Not that I see any real connection between George Sears and George W. Bush.

George Sears wanted to liberate Manhattan from the Patriots as a republic, though.
He had fallen out of favor with them due to the events at Shadow Moses. At least that's the superficial truth.
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Aug 25 2008, 10:22 PM
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Aug 25 2008, 08:27 PM
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Aug 23 2008, 11:48 PM
You wouldn't notice a thing, that's the point really, the masses generally have no idea it's happening
The general masses don't, but its kind of hard to hide the manipulation of the economy and hijacking of the political system to those who are aware.
And it's even harder to prove something is wrong with the system if there is nothing on the outside as proof, The Patriots if they were real would control EVERYTHING, stock figures could be manipulated to show whatever the people wanted, political systems are never a certain thing, politics change so often people wouldn't notice something if it was done subtley and without too much controversy
In the real world, how could the Patriots leave no trace of their existence whatsoever? I don't think you understand what I meant. Whatever.
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Aug 27 2008, 03:12 PM
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Aug 25 2008, 10:22 PM
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Aug 25 2008, 08:27 PM
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Aug 23 2008, 11:48 PM
You wouldn't notice a thing, that's the point really, the masses generally have no idea it's happening
The general masses don't, but its kind of hard to hide the manipulation of the economy and hijacking of the political system to those who are aware.
And it's even harder to prove something is wrong with the system if there is nothing on the outside as proof, The Patriots if they were real would control EVERYTHING, stock figures could be manipulated to show whatever the people wanted, political systems are never a certain thing, politics change so often people wouldn't notice something if it was done subtley and without too much controversy
In the real world, how could the Patriots leave no trace of their existence whatsoever? I don't think you understand what I meant. Whatever.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree, in my opinion, information is pretty dam easy to manipulate and anyone who has proof can be discredited to make whatever they have on 'The Patriots' (just calling them this for convenience) seem like crap. Whatever ;)
Cry 'havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war.
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I think people who do believe in a Patriot like organization are often thought of as crackpots by many.
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I bet Cheney is one of them
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Well i can say 'Patriot' so i know im not controlled by them :)
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tomatosnake
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a lot of things surrounding the idea of an elite group could very well be real. ideologies, economics and politics can all be manipulated by higher ups, no? now... some things like a system of super AI's that control things... don't know about that. there are some things similar to 'nanomachines' on the market now. chips implanted into your skin, google it. and war economy... profiting on the iraq war? no brainer
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they could be real, u just didnt know, that means bush is a pawn, oh wait...
i mean kojima might know that they really do exist but make a video game about it to lower suspicion hahaha
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I think some of the most subversive things aren't even necessarily convoluted conspiracies, they're just truths that are overlooked. Sad, but true.
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hmmm.. if the patriots were real, Our financial systems would manipulate governments across the globe, leading to 2 world wars and a 'vietnam', wed have a terrorist attack on a major US city, followed by blaming terrorists, who were actually harbored and funded by America, followed by an endless war, allowing government to strip away freedoms through a patriot act and implanted microchip tracking devices, followed by a financial crisis in Sept 08 to push a merge between US, Canada, and Mexico, and ultimately a civil war in the US, and a New World Order which is mentioned by them on our dollar bill as a 'new order of the ages' to come about, oh lets say the dawn of the new age in 2012, just as planned since the beginning by the royal bloodlines of the world...

Oh wait... that IS happening. . .

Wake up people, the patriots ARE real, they just go by the name "illuminati" and exist in international banking systems and the royal bloodlines traced all the way back from our presidents to the british empire to the roman empire to the time of christ.. Watch Zeitgeistmovie.com.. look up 'new world order', 'bohemian grove', 'skull and bones', 'the rockefeller family', etc.... Its scary stuff, but its true.
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The Patriots are pretty real even in the real world. There's more than one 'unknown forces' that rule the world these days. One would be God and the other 'The Patriots'.

Everything and everyone is manipulated for years and I am not talking only about people but for whole governments and countries. Ideologies, nations, religion... everything. When someone gets power in his hands he will keep it by any means necessary. Do you believe that you do whatever you like in this world? Free will that everyone is talking about? If this was indeed true we would live in a world of chaos. Someone has to control things. We get 'controlled' by the cops, they get by the government, the government gets by someone else and so on. And that's on the small scale.

The wold economy is something very critical now days to just divide it and leave it in the hands of each single government. The same goes for world order and control.

Everything that happens these days has a purpose greater than we can understand or even imagine. From wars to terrorist attacks and even financial crisis's.

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well, im pretty sure we would not even notice it.
there have always been theory's on secret organizations ruling the world and staging things and conflicts, for example, some people think that democracy in the U.S. does not exist and that its all secretly being run by the free masons

*btw, im not one of those people,i just put that out there*
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