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This Looks Like One of the Dumbest Games Ever
Topic Started: Apr 7 2010, 10:52:12 PM (3,809 Views)
Weedle_McHairybug
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Apr 12 2010, 01:00:03 AM
Jesus Christ, I meant the damn engine! They ported an engine built for the PS2 to a system that would make it run like shit.

Shouldn't the fact that PW's controls were better than MPO's add even more reason to dislike MPO? Since PW has obviously shown that it's possible to get good controls on the PSP.
Hey, as far as I can tell, if the very same control settings in a game that I would hate is in this game, then this would also make me hate that game as well.

Not that I hate Portable Ops. Personally, I don't care one way or another. I'm just saying that if a person hates it for one thing, then he or she should hate that same thing everywhere.

And anyways, has it occured to you that MPO had been their first time trying to make a MGS game for the PSP? I mean, how would you have made MPO if this was your first time making a MGS game for the PSP?
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JohnKiller118
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Just because it was the first "canon/true" (HA!) Metal Gear game on the PSP does not excuse how much it sucked.

Also, while PW does have to use the PSP's control layout, it is much more well done than it was in MPO.
Anyone who isn't a complete dip shit could tell the difference between MPO's controls and Peace Walker's.
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And very soon, I'm about to test those controls you speak of (the excitment is bonerific [yes, I made up a word to explain my feelings, who else hasn't?]).
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Big K: 60% of the fanbase can suck it.

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Everyone has their opinion, but for me, MGS4 owned, Kojima hasn't fucked up (even if some of you think so) and PW is going to be insane.
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Weedle_McHairybug
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JohnKiller118
Apr 12 2010, 01:22:22 AM
Just because it was the first "canon/true" (HA!) Metal Gear game on the PSP does not excuse how much it sucked.

Also, while PW does have to use the PSP's control layout, it is much more well done than it was in MPO.
Anyone who isn't a complete dip shit could tell the difference between MPO's controls and Peace Walker's.
Oh, I can see the difference between the controls:

No crawling.

You can't pick people up anymore (instead you just pat them on the back to acquire their ammo or belongings).

But most importantly, you can also choose between the control schemes (You can either play via the Portable Ops control Scheme, or the Guns of the Patriots control scheme.).
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@TwistedSnake and BigK
Pro-Tip: Saying that "everyone has their own opinion" does not nullify the fact that you said anyone who disagrees with you can "suck it" beforehand...

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Oh, I can see the difference between the controls:

No crawling.

You can't pick people up anymore (instead you just pat them on the back to acquire their ammo or belongings).

But most importantly, you can also choose between the control schemes (You can either play via the Portable Ops control Scheme, or the Guns of the Patriots control scheme.).
And they work (the GOtP control scheme, that is.) They're not cluttered. They feel smooth.
Edited by JohnKiller118, Apr 12 2010, 01:46:42 AM.
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JohnKiller118
Apr 12 2010, 01:00:03 AM
Shouldn't the fact that PW's controls were better than MPO's add even more reason to dislike MPO? Since PW has obviously shown that it's possible to get good controls on the PSP.
You could change the controls on MPO. I'm also sure you could change them to something similar to the default Peace Walker controls as well.
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Apr 12 2010, 05:50:04 PM
JohnKiller118
Apr 12 2010, 01:00:03 AM
Shouldn't the fact that PW's controls were better than MPO's add even more reason to dislike MPO? Since PW has obviously shown that it's possible to get good controls on the PSP.
You could change the controls on MPO. I'm also sure you could change them to something similar to the default Peace Walker controls as well.
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MPOs control scheme was fully customisable, you could essentially replicate the Peace Walker scheme, of course, with '1st person' instead of 'over the shoulder' aiming, and a few minor discrepancies (ability to crawl, roll with X etc.) But you could have move with the analogue stick, camera control with the face buttons as one of four options of movement/camera control - then you could specify what you want any other button to do. I am a fan of portable ops, and I really dont understand the retrospective comparison to Peace Walker.

You learn from your mistakes. MPO attempted to build on the 'classic Japanese' style of control scheme, ala MGS3 (A scheme which is now outdated, regardless of how nostalgic people insisted on getting following MGS4), Peace Walker has opted for a more relevant scheme.

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JohnKiller118
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Look, I tried to match PW's control scheme for MPO. I tried all I could to get it to work. And it's still a bitch!
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Who in the world wanted pre-MGS4 style controls, after MGS4 was released?

I'll admit that in the build up, I was a little peeved by the changes out of pure nostalgia (and because pre-MGS4 controls were perfectly fine) , but getting my hands on it I pretty much completely accepted them, the only thing that annoyed me was the X/O menu switch, because it was pointless.
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Apr 12 2010, 06:25:44 PM
Wayno
Apr 12 2010, 05:50:04 PM
JohnKiller118
Apr 12 2010, 01:00:03 AM
Shouldn't the fact that PW's controls were better than MPO's add even more reason to dislike MPO? Since PW has obviously shown that it's possible to get good controls on the PSP.
You could change the controls on MPO. I'm also sure you could change them to something similar to the default Peace Walker controls as well.
Is right

MPOs control scheme was fully customisable, you could essentially replicate the Peace Walker scheme, of course, with '1st person' instead of 'over the shoulder' aiming, and a few minor discrepancies (ability to crawl, roll with X etc.) But you could have move with the analogue stick, camera control with the face buttons as one of four options of movement/camera control - then you could specify what you want any other button to do. I am a fan of portable ops, and I really dont understand the retrospective comparison to Peace Walker.

You learn from your mistakes. MPO attempted to build on the 'classic Japanese' style of control scheme, ala MGS3 (A scheme which is now outdated, regardless of how nostalgic people insisted on getting following MGS4), Peace Walker has opted for a more relevant scheme.

- Van
WRONG.

Peace Walker maintains the controls for walking and aiming/camera when views are switched. Portable Ops arbirtrarily flip flops them. This makes aiming absolutely atrocious in Portable Ops. Don't talk out your bum, first test something, THEN make a conclusion. THAT'S how it works.
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Bit aggresive. Calm it down ladies, you're right and it's a valid point Huki but that post is just flamebait.
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Apr 13 2010, 01:20:26 AM
Bit aggresive. Calm it down ladies, you're right and it's a valid point Huki but that post is just flamebait.
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We've all got to learn to control ourselves. :)
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Apr 12 2010, 01:43:42 AM
@TwistedSnake and BigK
Pro-Tip: Saying that "everyone has their own opinion" does not nullify the fact that you said anyone who disagrees with you can "suck it" beforehand...
Two things:

1. What's to nullify? Everyone has their own opinions, and MY opinion is, "You folks got your opinions, I got mine, BUT...you can still kindly suck it."

2. Fact is, MGS4 was a thoroughly enjoyable game, if folks thought otherwise, good for them. They can say MGS4 sucks, I can say, it did not. But saying it did not is boring, having a harsher opinion of those who had a harsher opinion of MGS4 is more fun. Do I legitimately care if folks don't like MGS4? Fuck no. I don't base buying a game on what fans think, I go by my opinions and reviews and critics. Critics loved MGS4, that was all I needed, I played it, loved it, and thus, my opinion of the game was born.

PW will probably be the exact same way. Even if the rest of the MGS fan loves it, so long as I think it's a good game, the rest of the fanbase can suck it for all I am concerned. I don't mean seriously...just, metaphorically sucking it.

Why? Because well, why not?
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Just sayin'...
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Just sayin the controls overall on psp sucks asshole. Both MGS Portable Ops and Peace Walker both have terrible, terrible controls, why anybody calls them good is way beyond me, they're fucking idiotic.

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Apr 13 2010, 01:06:05 PM
Just sayin the controls overall on psp sucks asshole. Both MGS Portable Ops and Peace Walker both have terrible, terrible controls, why anybody calls them good is way beyond me, they're fucking idiotic.

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