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| Release Buzz?; Peace Walker released today right? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 29 2010, 09:51:26 PM (2,207 Views) | |
| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 06:28:43 PM Post #21 |
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Ah, I remember that part! ![]() Still, I was thinking along the lines of a button mashing scene, like in MGS1. Edit: lol, he forgot to draw the eye-patch. ...or the Microwave room. There's even button mashing! Hooray! Oh, and the statements that say MPO was required to understand MGS4's plot weren't? ![]() I don't recall any of them saying that. Portable Ops sucks ass and is non-canon and Null is a shitty retcon and MGS1 didn't say Big Boss told Snake about their relationship in Zanzibar Land. Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 06:46:30 PM.
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| Weedle_McHairybug | May 2 2010, 07:00:55 PM Post #22 |
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 07:05:30 PM Post #23 |
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MGS4 didn't reference MPO. MPO referenced MGS4! Yes, there's a difference. All the MPO team did was take elements from MGS4's story and made a prequel out of it. I'm not going to argue with you anymore because this isn't the thread for it. Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 07:06:17 PM.
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| Raxen | May 2 2010, 07:05:42 PM Post #24 |
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dude calm down we're talking about a video game. Btw what would you think if i tell you that metal gear solid 3 is no metal gear because i say I got no metal gear feeling?... stupid isn't it? And of course kojima says that his new game is much better then the old one, he wants you to buy it after all! |
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 07:12:50 PM Post #25 |
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Okay, why do people think I'm always angry? Okay, let me break it down for you; MGS3 is canon. AC!D and AC!D 2 are not. MPO is canon (unfortunately.) MPO has a torture scene. AC!D and AC!D 2 do not. /argument I didn't say he thinks PW is better. I said he says that PW is the first true Metal Gear game on the PSP. Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 11:46:16 PM.
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| Raxen | May 2 2010, 07:16:22 PM Post #26 |
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this game is better = THAT'S MY FIRST REAL METAL GEAR WOHOOOOOOOOO!!! ![]() i thought youre angry because you wrote that i would criticize youre intelligencs. How ever i agree with the rest i forgot the torture in portable ops
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 07:19:12 PM Post #27 |
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That's not how it works... He's saying that all previous Metal Gear games on the PSP are not important (just look at how many people were able to grasp MGS4's story without playing MPO.) Good. I'm glad we got all of that sorted out.
Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 07:20:39 PM.
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| Weedle_McHairybug | May 2 2010, 07:20:21 PM Post #28 |
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Fine. I'm tired of having to constantly tell you anyways. However, Portable Ops was actually made before Guns of the Patriots. Release date(s) for Portable Ops: America: December 5th, 2006 Japan: December 21st, 2006 EU: May 4th, 2007 Austrailia: May 15th, 2007 Release date for Guns of the Patriots: June 12th, 2008 (International Release) How can a game, made before another game, reference the game that hasn't even been released yet? You can't reference the future, so they couldn't have done what you said they did (taking elements from Metal Gear Solid 4's story and make a prequel out of it) because Metal Gear Solid 4 was released AFTER Portable Ops. In order for it to be what you said it would be, it needs to be the other way around (Metal Gear Solid 4 was released first, and then Portable Ops was released afterwards.). Not to mention that development for both Portable Ops and Metal Gear Solid 4 developed around the same time, given the E3 announcements and the Sony press conferences (The announcement for both games happened in 2005.). |
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 07:21:42 PM Post #29 |
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Then you're obviously unable to read between the lines. I meant that, during the development of both games, the writers of MPO's story took elements from MGS4's script, said "it's required to understand MGS4's story" as a marketing gimmick. Just look at how many people were able to grasp MGS4's story without it. ![]() They also said that the game was built from the ground up from scratch, which is also bullshit. It's a bad port of the MGS3 engine, clunky controls and all. Edit: Okay guys, can we please get back on topic? I lasted over a year and a half without getting completely spoiled with MGS4. I'm sure I can wait a month. Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 07:35:24 PM.
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| Weedle_McHairybug | May 2 2010, 07:43:22 PM Post #30 |
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How would one read between the lines in regards to Zero and Ocelot? Last I checked, Ocelot was talking to the CIA Director in that post-credit's conversation in Metal Gear Solid 3, not Zero, in regards to reviving the American Philosophers to essentially form The Patriots. Zero was only an agent of the CIA, not the Director. There is absolutely no way he would have been able to form the Patriots with Zero if, as MGS3's ending implies, the CIA director was the one who formed it. It would cause confusion amongst even those who did have good line reading skills. Heck, EVA never even mentioned anything about The Boss's death being planned from the beginning. Heck, if anything, it was moreorless stated that The Boss's death was actually staged as a result of Volgin firing the Davy Crockett as a result of a flaw in the plan, an unplanned factor. While it is true that they could have had EVA discover it later on, the fact they kept that in MGS4, and not used the explaination used in Metal Gear Solid 3 is enough to prove that it is canon. And I am more than capable of reading between the lines, BTW. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have argued that Gray Fox was transferred to Mozambique from Vietnam, instead saying it was all a retcon, never originating from Vietnam at all, also concluding that, at the same time, Gray Fox would never have participated in the Mozambician Civil War at all. (gee, does that sound familiar?). EDIT: Ok, going back on topic, there are live playthroughs of Peace Walker, as well as some sites posting cutscenes such as Youtube, and also Justin.tv doing a playthrough of Peace Walker. I'd say there's enough hype as it is. Edited by Weedle_McHairybug, May 2 2010, 07:44:57 PM.
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 07:50:15 PM Post #31 |
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^How come people tell me to calm down, when Weedle is the one acting even more pissed off than I usually am? Anyway. you know what else is canon? The database, which you yourself admit that you ignore. If you're going to go into a hissy fit about how MPO is canon, then you must also accept Big Boss being a Snatcher, Solidus being the one that erased Raiden's memories, and so on. I ignore both. Deal with it. Give. It. Up. Edit: Okay, I'll end this argument now. Neither party is going to change their minds. I'm sorry for bringing this mess off-topic. Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 08:02:15 PM.
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| Weedle_McHairybug | May 2 2010, 08:02:26 PM Post #32 |
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I might as well ignore all of the games if that is the case. Heck, ignore everything in the Metal Gear franchise. Most of the Database, unlike MPO, were not referenced even in Metal Gear Solid 4 (At least MPO had EVA's speech and stills from the game itself to prove it was canon in MGS4.). Did they mention Big Boss having Snatcher organs in MGS4 itself? no! Did they ever mention Solidus being the one who erased Raiden's memories in MGS4? No. The only things guaranteed to be canon in the Database are those pertained to MGS4 itself, and even that is severely limited due to the contradictions involving Liquid's arm. EDIT: My apologies as well for my contribution. I will end now. I was getting tired of it anyways. I'll end as long as JohnKiller stops as well. As long as I'm on here, he shouldn't mention anything about MPO. Edited by Weedle_McHairybug, May 2 2010, 08:03:43 PM.
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 08:10:30 PM Post #33 |
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You see, we're never going to end this argument, because both of us want to have the last word. I could say more, but to be honest, I don't care. Neither party is going to change minds. Let's stop talking about it and get back on topic. Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 08:15:09 PM.
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| Weedle_McHairybug | May 2 2010, 08:43:18 PM Post #34 |
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Good Idea. I also want the arguement to end. I'm tired of having to point these things out to you anyways. Anyways. There is the possibility of it being the torture scene. There's also the possibility of it being something else entirely. Also, There was quite a bit of a release buzz, given the playthrough live-streams, Justin.tv, and Youtube. |
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 09:05:10 PM Post #35 |
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Stop trying to get the last word. Anyway, I heard someone say that there is a torture scene, so... Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 09:06:30 PM.
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| Weedle_McHairybug | May 2 2010, 09:07:58 PM Post #36 |
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Why not? You tried to get the last word yourself. All I did was acknowledge the arguement was over. Honestly, if it were up to me, I'd ensure that ALL arguements ceased to exist. |
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| hukibeast | May 2 2010, 09:10:45 PM Post #37 |
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Stop shitting on my topic! Geez. |
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| Weedle_McHairybug | May 2 2010, 09:12:22 PM Post #38 |
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Well, to respond to your topic, there already is a bit of hype in the releases anyways. This is including live playthroughs, Justin.tv doing a playthrough, and Youtube posting cutscenes. |
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| JohnKiller118 | May 2 2010, 09:13:44 PM Post #39 |
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There was nothing in this post that would even imply that I wanted the last word. In fact, I wanted to do the exact opposite. That "I'm tired of having to point these things out to you anyways" line was you trying to get the last word. Look, I know it's officially canon. I just don't care. What I think is not going to affect how you understand the story. Give. It. Up. Edited by JohnKiller118, May 2 2010, 09:14:58 PM.
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| Raxen | May 2 2010, 09:20:02 PM Post #40 |
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