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The Armory; Everything pertaining to weaponry belongs here.
Topic Started: Jun 4 2012, 02:17:17 AM (11,129 Views)
OzwaldTheCrab
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Well it's a good thing they make pilots go through normal infantry training, or else they could go from 200 kilos to 2000 and pop like a pimple. Soldier first, pilot second.
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Most definitely. You need to make sure the guys can actually handle what they're doing.
You don't want a pilot-pancake in your plane.
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OzwaldTheCrab
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Tasty. What kind of armament is it getting?
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30mm GSh-30-1
16 hardpoints, 6 on the fuselage, 8 on the wings and 2 on the wingtips.

Air-to-air: R-77/PD, R-73, K-73
Air-to-surface: X-29T/L, X-59M, X-31P/A, KAB-500/1500
She'll be armed to the teeth.
Edited by Kestrel, Oct 1 2012, 04:24:41 AM.
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OzwaldTheCrab
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Air superiority just got a whole new name.
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You'll never fucking guess what I'm getting.
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please tell :)


Weapon to look at for its great past service: The Single Action Army

Weapon 2: Mosin-Nagant

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The AK-47 too.

But in terms of the longest time in service, the Mosin Nagant surpasses all by a longshot.
It been over 100 years and it's still in use.
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I'm getting an M1 Garand replica! I would get a real one, but the only way to get a good quality Garand in the US is to do it through the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) and I don't want to go through that. It's just shooting targets but I hate being graded on it.

And on that note, I have a cool fact to tell ye. I've noticed that there's an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine, but they seem to be unrelated in terms of their caliber and how they actually perform as a firearm (One uses the En Bloc Clip, the other a normal magazine.) but I've also noticed that the standard US infantry rifle has kept the use of 'M' along side it, with a carbine corresponding with 'M' and its number. The only gun that doesn't have a carbine brother is the M14, but that wasn't really the main rifle, as right after the Garand, the M16 came into use, with the carbine being created thirty years or so later (The M4A1).
Edited by OzwaldTheCrab, Oct 10 2012, 08:41:38 PM.
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The M14 was a good rifle, hence they even still make them with some tweaks and new mods, which then gave birth to the M21 and M25 Sniper rifles :)

though the Mosin-Nagant still retains the record for longest service record and still being in production....good rifle :)
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Yeah the Nagant is great. Although considering it's Russian, it really should be no surprise that it's still in service, considering they still use the goddamn T-34.
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Sometimes old weapons are better than the new ones....hell who needs nukes when you have good old fashion guns and explosives? :)
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Oct 11 2012, 07:39:39 PM
hell who needs nukes when you have good old fashion guns and explosives? :)
What can I say? Nukes are fun!
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only when they are not being fired at you, if your firing the nuke then yeah its more fun because your not gonna get fucked over by it...
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Oct 10 2012, 08:35:57 PM
I'm getting an M1 Garand replica! I would get a real one, but the only way to get a good quality Garand in the US is to do it through the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) and I don't want to go through that. It's just shooting targets but I hate being graded on it.

And on that note, I have a cool fact to tell ye. I've noticed that there's an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine, but they seem to be unrelated in terms of their caliber and how they actually perform as a firearm (One uses the En Bloc Clip, the other a normal magazine.) but I've also noticed that the standard US infantry rifle has kept the use of 'M' along side it, with a carbine corresponding with 'M' and its number. The only gun that doesn't have a carbine brother is the M14, but that wasn't really the main rifle, as right after the Garand, the M16 came into use, with the carbine being created thirty years or so later (The M4A1).
lolwat? no.

the service line for US military Main Combat rifles from WW1 goes like this. 1903 Springfield and 1903 American Enfield, M1 Garand, M14, M16-A1, M16-A2, M16-A4

the carbine for the M16 is the M4, even the M14 had a carbine version issued to tank personnel and paratroopers. and yes it was the main combat rifle from after the Korean War onward to the early Vietnam war. then we switched over to the M16-A1 the M14 still serves today, it's used as a designated marksman rifle in the USMC and the Navy issues it to their sailors on deck whenever they're attacked.
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I heard the M14 EBR is to be replaced (if it hasn't been already) by the M39 EMR. Is this true?
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M16A1 :wub:

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Still one of if not my favourite rifle ever made.
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They called it a space rifle, because of how futuristic it looked.

Big mistake with the issuing was, though, that the US Army claimed it was so advannced, it would never need to be cleaned. (Which, of course, right off the bat is straight bullshit.) It was plagued by jams and malfunctions, but it was highly accurate and if you hit someone there wasn't a very good chance they would be getting back up... In fact, the Geneva Convention actually forced this gun to get it's rifling twist changed due to the 'horrific, inhuman wounds' the weapon caused during Vietnam.

A good tradeoff between liability and stopping power. All in all, a great gun.
Edited by Kestrel, Oct 14 2012, 03:10:50 AM.
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Oct 10 2012, 08:35:57 PM
I'm getting an M1 Garand replica! I would get a real one, but the only way to get a good quality Garand in the US is to do it through the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) and I don't want to go through that. It's just shooting targets but I hate being graded on it.

And on that note, I have a cool fact to tell ye. I've noticed that there's an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine, but they seem to be unrelated in terms of their caliber and how they actually perform as a firearm (One uses the En Bloc Clip, the other a normal magazine.) but I've also noticed that the standard US infantry rifle has kept the use of 'M' along side it, with a carbine corresponding with 'M' and its number. The only gun that doesn't have a carbine brother is the M14, but that wasn't really the main rifle, as right after the Garand, the M16 came into use, with the carbine being created thirty years or so later (The M4A1).
lolwat? no.

the service line for US military Main Combat rifles from WW1 goes like this. 1903 Springfield and 1903 American Enfield, M1 Garand, M14, M16-A1, M16-A2, M16-A4

the carbine for the M16 is the M4, even the M14 had a carbine version issued to tank personnel and paratroopers. and yes it was the main combat rifle from after the Korean War onward to the early Vietnam war. then we switched over to the M16-A1 the M14 still serves today, it's used as a designated marksman rifle in the USMC and the Navy issues it to their sailors on deck whenever they're attacked.
Mostly correct.

If memory serves there is no such thing as a 1903 American Enfield. We got the M1917 which was our version of the British Enfield which came out in 1917 towards the end of WW1. The M1903 Springfield was still the primary during that war though I believe and was still used a lot during WW2 as not everyone got M1s right away.

DMs in the Marine Corps actually don't use M14s anymore. They did when I first came in back in 07, but now get the MK11 as of a couple years ago. Only guys that use M14s now are special forces and some sniper platoons.
Edited by SaltDog, Oct 14 2012, 03:28:37 AM.
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@kestrel Apparently it was issued with a cleaning kit. Would be funny to receive one with a gun that "would never need cleaning". Cool facts though, didn't know that.
Edited by Archer, Oct 14 2012, 03:26:38 AM.
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