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The Armory; Everything pertaining to weaponry belongs here.
Topic Started: Jun 4 2012, 02:17:17 AM (11,135 Views)
OzwaldTheCrab
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Nay! The M4 is technically an M16 family rifle, and is internally an M16. Physical parts are the only difference. I have worked with LR300's before, which is an M16 family rifle, and the stock can be removed and replaced with others, such as collapsible stocks. This works with any M16 family rifle. The M4 was only the finalization of the XM177E1, a shorter version of the M16A1.
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The solid snake fan 2007
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we all know that. But im saying the m4 is much better, faster rof, better accuracy, less recoil

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OzwaldTheCrab
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The XM177 IS the M4A1 in many ways. The shorter barrel is the reason for all those things. The M16A1 already had a crazy rate of fire though...
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yes. now your getting the picture

now the m4 6.8 knocks the wind out of all the other models

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I dunno, the XM177E2 is pretty sexy.
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oh thats because the m16 was called "the black rifle" and when they had problems with the gun due to jamming they made like these comic things? They taught soldiers how to clean the gun if it jammed. So the comic was filled with girls in Tshirts cleaning the m16. That's why they came out with the purple tiger camo pattern.

The comic thing is probably where hideo kojima got the idea of the "Book"
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i don't know if you want gear to go here or not but the mk.23/usp tac drop leg holster is the same one snake had in mgs2. I would send a link but I would be breaking the rules because it's on ebay.

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the M-16 series of rifles is just that. the M-16 series of rifles.

the M4 while yes very similar to the M-16 is not a rifle, it is a carbine. the fact that it has a shorter barrel and a collapsible stock makes it a different weapon than the M-16.

the M4 is it's own series, you have the M4, M4A1, M4 SOPMOD (blocks 1-3), M4 MWS the Mk. 18 CQBR and many more.
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Was the M4 derived, as in continued off of, the M-16? Or was it an entirely different research platform?
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it was derived off of the M-16, just as the M1 Carbine was derived from the M1 Garand. that said the need for a shorter carbine version of the M-16 came from the Vietnam war from SOG teams that wanted to be more maneuverable in the jungle and for Airborne units leaping out of their helicopters.
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We DID have a carbine version for the Vietnam War.
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So the M4 was DERIVED off the M-16, but became a whole new series all together. Gotchya.
Note: I like how this became a successful thread.
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All internal parts of the M4 are the same as the M16.
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Jun 18 2012, 11:41:14 PM
All internal parts of the M4 are the same as the M16.
wrong, shorter barrel requires a slightly thicker gas piston and the shorter stock needs a shorter buffer tube for the recoil. certain models such as the CQBR have a different receiver (CQBR means Close Quarters Battle Receiver)
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Yay, some intelligence back in this thread!

The DSR-1
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My favourite bull-pup.

Not much to say about it. Bolt action, sub .2 MOA @ 100 yards, and very sexy.
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Jun 18 2012, 11:48:43 PM
OzwaldTheCrab
Jun 18 2012, 11:41:14 PM
All internal parts of the M4 are the same as the M16.
wrong, shorter barrel requires a slightly thicker gas piston and the shorter stock needs a shorter buffer tube for the recoil. certain models such as the CQBR have a different receiver (CQBR means Close Quarters Battle Receiver)
That's a basic though. They did that with the FPW and the XM177E2 and GAU/GUU rifles.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:02:06 AM
Yay, some intelligence back in this thread!

The DSR-1
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My favourite bull-pup.

Not much to say about it. Bolt action, sub .2 MOA @ 100 yards, and very sexy.
Oh shit, don't get me started on the DSR family. Back in MGO, I owned all ass with that gun. 32K-2D!
The gun isn't just badass on MGO, it's awesome in the real world as well. And oh so hot.
On the other hand, DSR 50....
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OzwaldTheCrab
Jun 19 2012, 02:16:24 AM
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Jun 18 2012, 11:48:43 PM
OzwaldTheCrab
Jun 18 2012, 11:41:14 PM
All internal parts of the M4 are the same as the M16.
wrong, shorter barrel requires a slightly thicker gas piston and the shorter stock needs a shorter buffer tube for the recoil. certain models such as the CQBR have a different receiver (CQBR means Close Quarters Battle Receiver)
That's a basic though. They did that with the FPW and the XM177E2 and GAU/GUU rifles.
still doesn't change the fact that not ALL of the internals are the same.

it also still doesn't change the fact that the M-16 is a rifle and the M4 is a carbine. :whistle:
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yea kestrel can we post about gear in here? holsters, BodyArmor, stuff like that?


The newer model m4 the colt apc (advanced piston carbine) The weapon has a suppression ready fluted barrel, which is lighter and cools better than current M4 barrels. It is claimed to have "markedly better" accuracy. To improve reliability, Colt used an articulating link piston which "reduces the inherent stress in the piston stroke by allowing for deflection and thermal expansion."

and the m4a1 gas piston is much different the m16

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Yeah, but just to accommodate the shorter barrel. Also I do believe they use certain lighter parts in the M4. And the M4A1 is officially the M16M4, but due to the fact that it spawned a whole new family, the one used is generally called the M4A1, because it's the first officially adopted version. Bushmaster has made the M4A2 and A3 serving currently with over 60 nations. The A3 has light parts, the forward grip is the same, but it has a 16 inch barrel (The M16 has a 20), and consequently, a different piston.
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gess what
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send me a link to the A3 I never heard of it
Edited by The solid snake fan 2007, Jun 19 2012, 06:36:50 PM.

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