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stereotypical view of europeans
Topic Started: Jan 9 2013, 09:58:40 AM (3,747 Views)
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I'm going to throw the best examples, Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin. These are characters created by Americans who like to mock people who are like that, that is a stereotype, but that doesn't mean that the majority of people is like that, on the contrary, it measn there's people making funny stuff about it, and they're americans. Look at the police in The Simpsons too, they make fun of people like that, who's stupid and yet totally stubborn.

Heretic: You need to relax man. He said that of course they aren't all like that, he wants to know how the world sterotypes them. If you're gonna react the wrong way everytime someone says something about americans then you're in for a lifetime being pissed off.
Edited by Shalaco, Jan 10 2013, 01:20:10 AM.
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Jan 10 2013, 12:25:43 AM
I don't know, I've always had the impression that Americans were generally oblivious to the fact they're stereotyped as ignorant and arrogant, making it all the worse. Most people in America I know at least seem to be pretty ill-informed/apathetic on how they're viewed by the world. American Idol and lower gas prices are just more important. So I'm going to have to disagree with it being a self-mocking type of thing.
These are several good examples of statistically accurate stereotypes.

That said, I do believe a large portion of society is informed and properly educated. Despite how accurate your stereotypical view does seem to be.

I doubt it is really any different than in Europe, or for that matter, in the world. I mean the only difference in 1st countries is that the uninformed majority are lavished with the goods of an industrial nation. So, instead of being peasants in a tribe or surfs to a lord, they're peasants living a life furnished with entertainment and comfort. And it is only by their nature that they remain uninformed.
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I think that since the FOX unit was part of the CIA, that they'd have given Zero some specifications to how it would be acceptable to run things, which probably meant that bagging your turds and carrying them around with you was tossed out the window, it'd be stupid anyway since even if it was bagged, the stench would've leaked out eventually, and I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure I'd be able to smell it if some random guy was crawling through the bushes carrying a bag of his own shit, especially if he put that and urinated in the same bag...yeah...not very stealthy.
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I think what's happening here is that we have different standards as to what defines "uninformed." Shalashaska brings up a good point with how Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are satires of the lazy, uninformed American, but their portrayals are exaggerated. What's more, I think the intention is lost on a lot of viewers who are ignorant, but to a lesser extent than the characters they're laughing at. Sure Matt Groening and Seth McFarlane knew what they were implying when they created the characters, but you can't expect the same from viewers, who are the ones who matter the most here because of numbers.

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Viewers can laugh at Family Guy's depiction of Sean Hannity, but knowing that Hannity is a fear-mongering simpleton alone does not make anyone a genius.

Now that I look at it, I might've been wrong to deny the self-mocking thing, but I still think it gets the stereotype gets much more traction abroad than it does domestically.

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Jan 9 2013, 11:14:45 PM
The stereotype of Americans being stupid/obese is used exclusively by us.
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Depends on the country. I've always personally thought of France as a large group of smokers with sirens that sound like gay threesomes. Apparently a lot of other people think so, too. Course I don't hate France, I just don't like how they think we showed up late (Plus they owe us for WWII).
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Was that really what you thought, or is that what Family Guy made you decide you think?
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Jan 10 2013, 05:52:05 AM
Depends on the country. I've always personally thought of France as a large group of smokers with sirens that sound like gay threesomes. Apparently a lot of other people think so, too. Course I don't hate France, I just don't like how they think we showed up late (Plus they owe us for WWI).
And you owe them your independence, without French support, the Americans would have been easily defeated.

That aside: common French stereotype is sex, sex and sex + homosexual/girly accents.
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Blowjobs, wine, cheese, smelly people, and cowardice. Those are the French stereotypes I've always known of.
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The one about the French I've always heard is that they're rude, which I don't really buy at all. Paris specifically might not be the friendliest place, but you could say the same about Philadelphia or Newark. It never helps when you always have to deal with tourists either.

Edit - Shalashaska - I agree completely with your last post. None of us were there, all we've done was read about it. That's just pointless nationalism. I would've said something about it, but for whatever reason I let it go.
Edited by Bames Jond, Jan 10 2013, 07:15:14 AM.
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I'm sorry Guys but None of you fought in any war, so french don't owe you shit, that's bullshit. I hate when people try to take advantage of their country's achievements. People change over the years in every country, the people in charge, the soldiers, an actual french soldier doesn't owe América shit.
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Jan 10 2013, 06:12:50 AM
Was that really what you thought, or is that what Family Guy made you decide you think?
I knew someone would say that, truth be told, I actually thought their sirens sound...Off...Then Family Guy mentioned it and then I thought my accusations were confirmed.



@BtiB:
Yep. And we paid them back with WWI. Now they owe us for WW2.


So yeah.

(Plus it's a motherfucking joke.)
Edited by OzwaldTheCrab, Jan 10 2013, 07:19:06 AM.
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Nah not you specifically, but a lot of people actually talk like that
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But the people who actually mean it are few in number. I hope.
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I find it funny how only two people so far have mentioned Belgium in their list so far.
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I'm gonna post the stereotypical view my country has, not the personal one.

England: Enemies, have tea at 5, speak way too properly, it's ALWAYS grey.
Wales: Suck at soccer
Scotland: Squirts and bagpipes. And willie from The simpsons.
Ireland: Goblins, beer, everything's green, clovers
France: Everyone's dirty who don't bath, so they use perfume, nice clothes, most of them are gay, and they smell. And cheese. And Remi Gaillard owning everyone.
Sweden: Talk funny, everyone's a blue eyed blonde.
Holland: Weed, good at soccer, weed, soccer
Germany: Efficient, aryans, the old tyrants, Nazi immigrants who came to Argentina looking for a place to hide, and we gave it to them, awesome cars
Norway: Vikings, Thor, characters from Age of mythology.
Romania: Dracula, Vamp, old castles, people impaled.
Ukraine: Mutants.
Spain: Bull murderers, for some reason everyone thinks they're really stupid (there are many jokes suggesting so too), talk ridiculously funny, (personal opinion: All bull fighters should be gathered and burned alive ^_^ )
Italy: Pasta, Pizza, Mafia, kisses of death, Ezio Auditore
Vatican City: Templars, demons, Emperor Palpatine as Poap, try to cure hunger in the world by making everything in the vatican of gold (?).




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Belgium: beer and monks. Specifically, monks who make beer.

Also, I feel France would have a better reputation for valor if they had thought up a better defense than the Maginot Line. Seriously, that was a terrible idea.
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I think that since the FOX unit was part of the CIA, that they'd have given Zero some specifications to how it would be acceptable to run things, which probably meant that bagging your turds and carrying them around with you was tossed out the window, it'd be stupid anyway since even if it was bagged, the stench would've leaked out eventually, and I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure I'd be able to smell it if some random guy was crawling through the bushes carrying a bag of his own shit, especially if he put that and urinated in the same bag...yeah...not very stealthy.
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Jan 10 2013, 06:21:49 AM
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Jan 10 2013, 05:52:05 AM
Depends on the country. I've always personally thought of France as a large group of smokers with sirens that sound like gay threesomes. Apparently a lot of other people think so, too. Course I don't hate France, I just don't like how they think we showed up late (Plus they owe us for WWI).
And you owe them your independence, without French support, the Americans would have been easily defeated.
using that logic the french owe us two fold for helping them keep their independence from germany in world war 1 and 2

see how silly that sounds?
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The U.S. didn't win its revolution because Britain's ass was "kicked" or because of France, though it sped things up a lot. It won because the colonies served no purpose to Britain as an insubordinate.

A lot of Americans like to romanticize it as an underdog story, but the truth is Britain had greener pastures in places like India and Africa.
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I think that since the FOX unit was part of the CIA, that they'd have given Zero some specifications to how it would be acceptable to run things, which probably meant that bagging your turds and carrying them around with you was tossed out the window, it'd be stupid anyway since even if it was bagged, the stench would've leaked out eventually, and I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure I'd be able to smell it if some random guy was crawling through the bushes carrying a bag of his own shit, especially if he put that and urinated in the same bag...yeah...not very stealthy.
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They're all English.

EDIT:@discussion of America's independence. American's bragging about that is the dumbest shit ever, it was a war which involved British from Britain fighting British immigrants in America, both sides were British so the fact the immigrants ended up keeping America doesn't mean anything, it was a civil war more than anything.
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