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Aliens and conspiracy theories.; Take the red pill and i'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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I like to discuss aliens and conspiracy theories, I been following a lot of people regarding certain topics and I find it very, very interesting.

Some of my favorite topics at the moment are:

The moon is not real, it is an alien mother base.

- I'm very skeptical about this, as I was introduced to this by David Icke, who can have some very interesting points and sometimes make a lot of sense, however, the guy is somewhat a loon, and has been exposed several times by Jesse Ventura. However, lots of videos have been emerging of UFO's docking and entering the moon, also there are the videos of supposed alien structures and the theory of why America never went back.

TR-3B Aurora and Black projects.

- Remember those videos of the 3 glowing red lights in a triangle formation? That is the Aurora, a USA Black project designed to replace the Blackbird. Now, I do believe this one to be very true.

The Sun is a portal/wormhole and fueling station for UFO's.

- A lot of videos from NASA and other sources have been popping up all over the net as of late of UFO's docking near the sun, one video in particular shows what appears to be a massive orb like UFO refueling from the sun. (If you want to see it, just ask.)

Global warming is a scare tactic to get us to cut down on fuel wastage.

- This has to be true to a degree, whether or not GW is true or not the fact that oil and green house gasses are running out is very true, also, the "reduce your carbon footprint" and "OMG GW is real, hide yo kids" only got serious after the BP oil spill.

There's lots more, however these are the ones I find particularly interesting at the moment, what do you believe in?
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No one can say with certainty that oil reserves are running out. They've been saying the same thing for decades and it's bullshit to give oil companies an excuse to profiteer. Global warming's a lie? You really gonna go against the consensus of 97% of the world's scientific community that it is a serious threat? There's more to lose than there is to gain from a global warming conspiracy as far as the most powerful people in the world are concerned. The only conspiracy is oil/gas companies, etc. funding the denial machine in order to curb public perception and prevent meaningful action from taking place.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/28/global-warming-consensus-climate-denialism-characteristics
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I do believe in aliens but I don't like the theory of the moon being a mothership, I think the Americans never went back there because there is nothing there and it costs a lot of money. I don't like the one about the sun being a refueling station either, that would mean that every star we see is an alien 7 Eleven.
The thing about UFO sightings is that they are incredibly easy to fake, same with ghost sightings. It's the kind of thing that I would have to see to believe. A crackpot showing me a picture isn't enough evidence to convince me.
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The moon and sun theories are completely asinine. Have you ever looked at the moon through a telescope? If you haven't, then you should, because it's awesome, and also because with very low-end telescopes or even a decent pair of binoculars, you can see everything in a lot of detail - and there's nothing there. Which is why Bulup is right about Americans never going back. NASA has collected about half a ton of lunar rocks, which is literally the only thing to bring back and study - and the government spent over $25 billion on the Apollo program. We landed there six times and each time, it was just a rock - it's a lot cheaper and safer to just send people to the space station. (Not to mention NASA has been more interested in figuring out a feasible way to get to Mars.)

And the sun "refueling station" thing is just ridiculous. First off, how could you possibly get a legitimate video of anything near the sun? Any video would have to be filmed through an insanely high-powered telescope lens in order to see any kind of space ship at all - unless it was at least the size and brightness of a planet (I'm talking the size of Venus or larger - or even rivaling the size of the sun itself, in which case I'm sure there would have been mass hysteria by now). There's also the fact that the sun is so bright that 1) you would also need to have a filter on the lens of the telescope to see anything, but that filter would also make it difficult to see anything but the sun, and 2) the sun's light would actually wash out anything within a few million miles of it. Also, if an alien race were going to make a space station in our solar system, or any solar system for that matter, why would they put it next to the sun? Do you realize how fucking hot a star is?! Anything being that close to the sun would probably just be incinerated.

Two final notes: physics doesn't allow for a star to be a wormhole - if wormholes even exist (they are only theoretical but in the possibility). If there are wormholes, I guess it would be possible to have one near the sun but like I said, it wouldn't be logical to try to travel that near to an active star. (IMO wormholes probably don't occur in nature; they would most likely be made by intelligent life.) And, finally, I completely reject the idea of NASA being the source of any kind of UFO video; they aren't in the business of creating UFO hysteria - if anything, they'd be paying people off to take the videos down.

Oh, and I'd like to say that I absolutely believe there is other intelligent life out there somewhere. All the elements that led to the creation of life on earth were created in stars, and exist throughout the universe. It's just a matter of all those things combining in ways that allow life to arise - and the human brain really cannot grasp the actual scale of the universe without intricate computer models, and even then it's still pretty much impossible to visualize in our own heads. So the odds are that we aren't just a fluke; there are almost limitless stars and planets out there and there have to be more that harbor intelligent life.

So yeah, I believe in aliens, and I even believe in the possibility that there may be other universes, or many other dimensions that we can't perceive. But the evidence for those things comes from scienctific study, not YouTube videos.
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@Fear... Judge for yourself, but that looks very, very strange.

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And the sun "refueling station" thing is just ridiculous. First off, how could you possibly get a legitimate video of anything near the sun? Any video would have to be filmed through an insanely high-powered telescope lens in order to see any kind of space ship at all - unless it was at least the size and brightness of a planet (I'm talking the size of Venus or larger - or even rivaling the size of the sun itself, in which case I'm sure there would have been mass hysteria by now). There's also the fact that the sun is so bright that 1) you would also need to have a filter on the lens of the telescope to see anything, but that filter would also make it difficult to see anything but the sun, and 2) the sun's light would actually wash out anything within a few million miles of it. Also, if an alien race were going to make a space station in our solar system, or any solar system for that matter, why would they put it next to the sun? Do you realize how fucking hot a star is?! Anything being that close to the sun would probably just be incinerated.
There are hundreds of videos of the sun, you have to know that in no way could we humans possibly comprehend alien technology, we just wouldn't be able to register it, they could have space suits or skin that allows them to chill out on the sun, it could be a holiday spot for them, it's absolutely mind blowing thinking about it

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Two final notes: physics doesn't allow for a star to be a wormhole - if wormholes even exist (they are only theoretical but in the possibility). If there are wormholes, I guess it would be possible to have one near the sun but like I said, it wouldn't be logical to try to travel that near to an active star. (IMO wormholes probably don't occur in nature; they would most likely be made by intelligent life.) And, finally, I completely reject the idea of NASA being the source of any kind of UFO video; they aren't in the business of creating UFO hysteria - if anything, they'd be paying people off to take the videos down.
But thats just human understanding of wormholes, it could be wrong, it could be a minute understanding, we, and our understanding of physics compared to ET's could be absolutely massive, physics may not even apply to them... Also, there are people who watch NASA's feeds 24/7 and the rip the videos instantly.
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I don't even try. Why would I?

I hate the going to the Moon conspiracy. I'm fairly sure if the Americans didn't put a man on the moon, the Russians would be first to know and tell everyone about it, because let's face it, they'd be tracking that fucker from launch.
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I do believe in aliens but I don't like the theory of the moon being a mothership, I think the Americans never went back there because there is nothing there and it costs a lot of money. I don't like the one about the sun being a refueling station either, that would mean that every star we see is an alien 7 Eleven.
The thing about UFO sightings is that they are incredibly easy to fake, same with ghost sightings. It's the kind of thing that I would have to see to believe. A crackpot showing me a picture isn't enough evidence to convince me.
Oh yeah, of course they are and a lot of them could be real, we will never know for sure until the government comes out and says it, or aliens make contact, even then people will deny it, why? because it's scary, it scares the absolute shit of me, hence why I would never go to space if given the chance.
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@Fear... Judge for yourself, but that looks very, very strange.

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And the sun "refueling station" thing is just ridiculous. First off, how could you possibly get a legitimate video of anything near the sun? Any video would have to be filmed through an insanely high-powered telescope lens in order to see any kind of space ship at all - unless it was at least the size and brightness of a planet (I'm talking the size of Venus or larger - or even rivaling the size of the sun itself, in which case I'm sure there would have been mass hysteria by now). There's also the fact that the sun is so bright that 1) you would also need to have a filter on the lens of the telescope to see anything, but that filter would also make it difficult to see anything but the sun, and 2) the sun's light would actually wash out anything within a few million miles of it. Also, if an alien race were going to make a space station in our solar system, or any solar system for that matter, why would they put it next to the sun? Do you realize how fucking hot a star is?! Anything being that close to the sun would probably just be incinerated.
There are hundreds of videos of the sun, you have to know that in no way could we humans possibly comprehend alien technology, we just wouldn't be able to register it, they could have space suits or skin that allows them to chill out on the sun, it could be a holiday spot for them, it's absolutely mind blowing thinking about it

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Two final notes: physics doesn't allow for a star to be a wormhole - if wormholes even exist (they are only theoretical but in the possibility). If there are wormholes, I guess it would be possible to have one near the sun but like I said, it wouldn't be logical to try to travel that near to an active star. (IMO wormholes probably don't occur in nature; they would most likely be made by intelligent life.) And, finally, I completely reject the idea of NASA being the source of any kind of UFO video; they aren't in the business of creating UFO hysteria - if anything, they'd be paying people off to take the videos down.
But thats just human understanding of wormholes, it could be wrong, it could be a minute understanding, we, and our understanding of physics compared to ET's could be absolutely massive, physics may not even apply to them... Also, there are people who watch NASA's feeds 24/7 and the rip the videos instantly.
You realize those are videos of a solar flare, right? In the first one when the guy takes the filter off and replays it you can clearly see a small flare where the "sphere" was - the "sphere" appears in the filtered image because the flame enters the space of the corona and briefly changes the magnetic field and temperature. The problem with people constantly watching NASA's feed and instantly posting these "anomalies" to YouTube is that they aren't scientists - they're armchair conspiracy theorists. I think these guys should probably read a physics text book, and maybe A Brief History Of Time - or hell, watch Cosmos, at the very least.

I'll say again though, do you not realize how fucking hot the sun is? Since you don't seem to, I'll tell you: the sun is about 5505 degrees Celsius, or almost 190 thousand degrees Fahrenheit. It's true that alien life could be all but incomprehensible to us, but do you realize how ridiculous your notion of their skin being hotter than the sun is? I doubt even the most extreme alien bacteria could withstand the temperature. Even if they could survive with that kind of body heat, how the hell could they maintain the energy to keep their bodies burning at over 200,000 degrees?

We don't know everything there is to know about physics, but we do know that the laws of physics are universal. We've witnessed the same laws of gravity and motion applying to galaxies thousands of light years away. If the aliens come from another dimension or universe, then our laws of physics may not apply to them at home, but if they're in our universe, then the laws of physics in our universe do apply (kinda like if you commit a crime in a country you don't live in, you're still subject to the laws and punishments of whatever country you're in).

And don't think I'm trying to debunk these theories because I'm afraid of aliens. On the contrary, if those sun videos are indeed an alien mothership, it would be larger than Jupiter - and if the aliens can make a spaceship that huge, that can park right next to a star, and they haven't annihilated us yet, then they are either peaceful or dumber than they seem.

Seriously Taz, I don't know how old you are but if you're young enough to still be in school, take a couple of introductory physics classes. Really. They're the most rewarding classes you could possibly take and even without getting into astrophysics, they'll greatly increase your understanding of how shit in the universe works. If you're out of school already, I'd recommend reading anything by Stephen Hawking or Carl Sagan. Sagan actually wrote an excellent novel called Contact, which depicts aliens making contact with earth in a very realistic and scientific manner (the guy would know, he was either a lead consultant on, or in charge of, virtually every NASA program until he died). And instead of these YouTube videos, watch some Neil DeGrasse Tyson videos instead.

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No way are those solar flares, look how they circle around the object, it's solid and maintains it's shape then shoots off.

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I'll say again though, do you not realize how fucking hot the sun is? Since you don't seem to, I'll tell you: the sun is about 5505 degrees Celsius, or almost 190 thousand degrees Fahrenheit. It's true that alien life could be all but incomprehensible to us, but do you realize how ridiculous your notion of their skin being hotter than the sun is? I doubt even the most extreme alien bacteria could withstand the temperature. Even if they could survive with that kind of body heat, how the hell could they maintain the energy to keep their bodies burning at over 200,000 degrees?
No one knows how advanced these ET's could be, the sun could just be like hot water to them, it could even be cold to them, we just don't know, our understanding is limited, but if these ET's have the technology to travel millions of light years, what makes you think they can't withstand the sun, there is also the possibility of shields.

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And don't think I'm trying to debunk these theories because I'm afraid of aliens. On the contrary, if those sun videos are indeed an alien mothership, it would be larger than Jupiter - and if the aliens can make a spaceship that huge, that can park right next to a star, and they haven't annihilated us yet, then they are either peaceful or dumber than they seem.
What makes you think alien technology isn't that advanced that they can't build ships the size of planets? And they could be friendly, or they want to maintain peace in the universe, we just don't know... That is, if they actually do exist.

I just find it fascinating.

Also, what do you know of the supposed TR-3B black project created to replace the Blackbird?
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Ok, think of it this way: if they are so advance that they have a mothership larger than Jupiter that can withsrand the heat of the sun, and even dock at it (which also doesn't make sense because it's a ball of burning gas), and they traveled billions of miles to come to our solar system, where less than 100 million miles away there is a planet full of intelligent beings sending billions of broadcasts out into space: if they were friendly, why haven't they made contact, and if they aren't, why haven't they annihilated us? I don't know if you realize this, but every transmission that goes over the air, goes out into space - on-air tv broadcasts, radio transmissions, even things as small as car engines igniting. It all goes floating out into space to be picked up by anything intelligent. Hell, SETI even makes broadcasts out into space hoping aliens pick it up.

So what I'm saying is, they would know we're here and where we are pretty much instantly if they came to our sun, so why would they just ignore it?

Also, they are very obviously solar flares - it's a fucking jet of flame shooting off the sun. It circles because it's pulled back by the sun's massive gravity and magnetic field. The dark spot is simply just the heat and magnetic signature of the flare.
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Ok, think of it this way: if they are so advance that they have a mothership larger than Jupiter that can withsrand the heat of the sun, and even dock at it (which also doesn't make sense because it's a ball of burning gas), and they traveled billions of miles to come to our solar system, where less than 100 million miles away there is a planet full of intelligent beings sending billions of broadcasts out into space: if they were friendly, why haven't they made contact, and if they aren't, why haven't they annihilated us? I don't know if you realize this, but every transmission that goes over the air, goes out into space - on-air tv broadcasts, radio transmissions, even things as small as car engines igniting. It all goes floating out into space to be picked up by anything intelligent. Hell, SETI even makes broadcasts out into space hoping aliens pick it up.

So what I'm saying is, they would know we're here and where we are pretty much instantly if they came to our sun, so why would they just ignore it?

Also, they are very obviously solar flares - it's a fucking jet of flame shooting off the sun. It circles because it's pulled back by the sun's massive gravity and magnetic field. The dark spot is simply just the heat and magnetic signature of the flare.
Perhaps they monitor us, maybe they made contact before i.e Aztec drawings and ancient scripts all indicate that aliens have visited before. (Roswell as well)

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If they do monitor us it would make sense for them to use the sun as a gateway and/or fuel source, i'm not saying any of this is true, it could all be a big pile of bullshit, however there are hundreds of thousands of accounts of UFO sightings and abductions, still doesn't make any of this true but still...

They're is always the chance that the Gov. hides it from us, we don't know if they could be communicating with ET's over at Area 51...

The solar flares are circling around a solid object, it maintains the same shape for three days (or was it a week?)
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Oh, look: there was a large solar flare on March 7, 2012 - amidst a week of other flares and a coronal mass ejection, which would have left turbulence in the sun's corona for days. Also happens to be the day before the "obect" in your second video was seen. And you don't think that an enormous spacecraft docking next to the sun wouldn't disturb the corona more than that? Imagine how much energy it would take to hold the ship in place and not be sucked in by the sun's gravity.

As far as I'm concerned, stuff like Roswell and anything on the show Ancient Aliens has no firm basis in reality. There's really no solid evidence that aliens have ever contacted us or would be monitoring us. If they're "monitoring" us, why? It just sounds like it would be a major waste of time to just watch, especially when we're sending out broadcasts to greet them. The Voyager crafts even have a "map" that leads directly to our planet, with drawings of human beings and recordings of life forms on earth, music, etc. If any intelligent life had found us, it would be pretty obvious to them that we want to talk.
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Oh, look: there was a large solar flare on March 7, 2012 - amidst a week of other flares and a coronal mass ejection, which would have left turbulence in the sun's corona for days. Also happens to be the day before the "obect" in your second video was seen.


Yes there was a solar flare, but there is still something there, look at the 3 vortex's that seem to be the UFO absorbing energy from the sun.

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And you don't think that an enormous spacecraft docking next to the sun wouldn't disturb the corona more than that? Imagine how much energy it would take to hold the ship in place and not be sucked in by the sun's gravity.
Well there technology could mean that gravity doesn't affect them, we don't what ET's could be capable of or how technologically advanced they are.

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As far as I'm concerned, stuff like Roswell and anything on the show Ancient Aliens has no firm basis in reality. There's really no solid evidence that aliens have ever contacted us or would be monitoring us.


How would you explain the ancient drawings of aliens and spacecraft then, or the legitimate UFO videos? Or the millions of eye witness accounts?

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If they're "monitoring" us, why? It just sounds like it would be a major waste of time to just watch, especially when we're sending out broadcasts to greet them.
Why do scientists monitor bacteria, why do zoologists monitor animals... They could be studying us.

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The Voyager crafts even have a "map" that leads directly to our planet, with drawings of human beings and recordings of life forms on earth, music, etc. If any intelligent life had found us, it would be pretty obvious to them that we want to talk.
Maybe they don't... And like I said ET's may have already made contact.
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Isn't David Icke a proponent of the ZOG theory?
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Isn't David Icke a proponent of the ZOG theory?
Yes he is... He is a loon, he has a theory on time travel or something that Jesse Ventura destroyed him on... It's beyond retarded, I just found this moon/base theory interesting, everything else is BS, stuff like reptilians and the sort.
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Yeah, I am interested in some conspiracy theories myself, but "the world is controlled by reptilian Jewish Freemasons" is more or less where I draw the line.

I can't say I've looked into anything to do with the Moon or the Sun really. I sometimes browse the space-related topics on ATS for comedy purposes but I get the feeling most of those are not serious.
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Yeah, I am interested in some conspiracy theories myself, but "the world is controlled by reptilian Jewish Freemasons" is more or less where I draw the line.

I can't say I've looked into anything to do with the Moon or the Sun really. I sometimes browse the space-related topics on ATS for comedy purposes but I get the feeling most of those are not serious.
:D According to Icke, Obama is a reptilian... Those kind of theories are just to... Meh.

What theories are you interested in?
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1) There's nothing there. It's a filtered image of a solar flare. The "dark vortices" (that's the plural form of vortex, by the way) appear because the picture has a filter over it so that the sun's light doesn't burn our eyeballs. The filter takes away the brightest light and leaves the negative space.

2) I get so sick of this argument. First off, gravtity affects everything. It's not only a universal law - it is literally the force that holds the entire fabric of the universe together. Nothing would exist without gravity and nothing is outside of it. It really pisses me off when people completely ignore basic science and support their bunk UFO/alien "evidence" with the "maybe they're just so advanced that we can't even begin to fathom their technology."

3) I would explain the ancient alien drawings and UFO videos by saying "they're fake." Especially the ancient drawings.

Look, anybody can fake a picture of an ancient cave drawing, Bigfoot, a UFO... Anything. Just because that picture appeared on a show on the History Channel, that doesn't mean it's real. Even if the History Channel team legitimately found the painting in a cave in France or something, that does not mean it's real. The thing about cave paintings and carvings, is that man still has the technology to make them. Some joker could have come along at any point in human history and added that. It could've been done last year for all anybody knows.

This also ties back into your video where the "object docked for 80 hours." Unless that dude has 80 hours of real-time footage showing that thing sitting completely still, then it's not admissible evidence. I could show you a 5-second video of my cat spinning in a circle and say that he did it for four straight days, but that doesn't make it so.

3) Scientists study those things because we can learn from them. Your aliens, who can not only take a vacation on the 200000 degree sun because that's "cold" to them, who have a spacecraft the size of Jupiter - which is also not subject to the laws of gravity, never mind the fact that gravity is the reason the compounds that make up the material for their spacecraft are held together - that travels through wormholes that they probably made themselves, would have absolutely nothing to learn from us. We can't even get human beings to Mars. Hell, we can't even put human beings in any kind of spacecraft without the very real possibility that the thing will just blow up at launch and kill everybody inside.

4) One thing you seem to have overlooked is something that actually mentioned yesterday. You know how I said every broadcast sent over radio waves goes out into space? That includes information satellites send, and even loud noises and the lights of Earth would be detectable by anything with technology at least as advanced as ours. But that's a two-way street. If there was an alien space station docking so close to us, there would be noises that our radio telescopes would pick up; hell, we have radio telescopes that would pick up the extra mass near the sun, even without seeing it.

Now, I can already anticipate your next argument: "maybe they're so advanced that their technology can't be picked up on radio frequencies." Which is just fucking stupid, although it may seem logical to you because you apparently don't care about the fabric of the universe. But let me tell you, this thing about light and sound is another one of those "fabric of the universe" things. You probably don't know this, but light from the Big Bang is still present all throughout the universe. It's called "cosmic background radiation," and we not only detect it, but we have to allow for it when we pick up any signal from space, because it's always there.

The other thing about your mind-bogglingly advanced ETs is that if they have technology so far advanced and powerful, they most likely would've destroyed themselves a long time ago. This is a small point and I won't linger on it because it's entirely open to conjecture - because one thing we certainly can't know for certain is how they would behave. But if they're anything like us in behavior, technology like that would definitely cause a lot of wars on the home world.

Finally, I feel comfortable saying aliens haven't made contact. Why? Because if they had, it would be a scientist who detected said contact - and scientists are notorious for not giving a fuck about government restriction when it comes to discoveries that the human race absolutely needs to know about. Even if the government stepped in, the guy who discovered it would tell all his colleagues and it would be all over the world within hours. Also, if contact is ever made, it most likely wouldn't be discovered by any government agency - it would probably be found by an independent organization, like SETI. And actually, it could potentially be made by me or you - they have a program called SETI@home that allows anybody in the world to download a small program, then they send your computer chunks of data from radio telescopes, and your computer looks through it all in the background. Even if we never find any alien contact, it's still really cool to look through all the data they gather and share with the world.

Seriously, I recommend reading Contact by Carl Sagan. It's an excellent novel, and all the science is real, as it was written by a world-renowned astronomer/physicist, who, like I said was a consultant or director of most of the NASA research programs during his working life. His non-fiction work is great too, and his tv show Cosmos is fantastic - I'd highly recommend checking that out on Netflix, it's a beautiful series and discoveries in physics don't come very often so the science is still pretty relevant despite being over 30 years old. Read A Brief History Of Time by Stephen Hawking, and while you're at it, read his latest book, The Grand Design as well - since you seem to have problems with gravity. Hell, while you're at it, go to your local used book shop and get a 100-level college physics textbook.

I don't know why I'm spending so much time writing out such long answers - hopefully I'm getting through to you. Mostly, science is just awesome and talking about the universe excites me. Believe me, learning actual facts about the universe is way more fun than watching bogus alien conspiracy theory videos on YouTube. Hell, next time you're on YouTube, look up "Symphony of Science" - they autotune videos of physicists talking about science and turn it into songs; it's not only hilarious/awesome, it's educational too! SCIENCE!
Edited by Fear, Jun 4 2013, 05:11:22 PM.
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