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E3 Trailer discussion thread
Topic Started: Jun 10 2013, 06:07:21 PM (18,662 Views)
Gaseous-Snake
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ManWithNoName
Jun 11 2013, 05:23:36 AM
I also don't think the phrase 'robbed of her words' is literal. I'm betting it means robbed of freedom of speech or expression. It also happens to go well with a sniper. Just my 2 cents.
Come on, it's Metal Gear Solid where everyone is a freak of nature.. not to mention the amount of amputees in this game. I'm betting she has no tongue.
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Actually, I think that theory could be an explanation for her attire. Her wearing rather scantily clad outfits could represent freedom of speech, and how she was robbed from it.
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Gaseous-Snake
Jun 11 2013, 01:07:53 PM
ManWithNoName
Jun 11 2013, 05:23:36 AM
I also don't think the phrase 'robbed of her words' is literal. I'm betting it means robbed of freedom of speech or expression. It also happens to go well with a sniper. Just my 2 cents.
Come on, it's Metal Gear Solid where everyone is a freak of nature.. not to mention the amount of amputees in this game. I'm betting she has no tongue.
Well it does center around characters who've been through battle. You lose limbs in battle. Naturally the number of amputees is gonna be a bit higher.
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A thing I noticed a while ago, was Hayters ponytail in some interviews.. And when I saw the E3 trailer. Boss had the same haircut? What a coincidence ? or?

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abstract-one
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Leon keep that crap in the David Hayter thread. Not every fucking thread in this forum needs to be made about Hayter.

KoRnFlakes
Jun 11 2013, 09:34:06 AM
TheFifthSnake
Jun 11 2013, 08:57:22 AM
Hey.He's Just a Kid.
But Yeah,Setting the Chico thing aside,anyone noticed that Kaz..looked like a Blind Guy?
He's not a kid, he's a child soldier, two very different things, if he thinks he's big enough to pick up a gun and shoot people then he should be prepared to face the consequences of getting caught and tortured for information.

Being a kid doesn't automatically redeem him being a traitor to the people who took him in and treated him like family.
LOL, that is the thing, he is not old enough to decide that he wants to be in a private militia.

That is what kids have parents for. And they say no, you can't join the private militia of some guy whom you just met who seems pretty cool. If they say yes, then they are not really parents but abusive ass holes.

But evil Big Boss doesn't give a shit. He will harm a child by recruiting him (abducting him in to the sky lol) when is in a very emotional state, and then choke him to death when the poor little kid lets him down. A decent person would have put Chico in an orphanage.

This is probably what Kojima wants or expects players to do. Try and make the situation morally gray or excusable (he is not a kid!), so the character they are playing as is not some evil jerk. The rug is going to be violently pulled out from under these kinds of rationalizations at some point in MGSV though, when at some point it becomes too difficult to sympathize with Big Boss. At least it should anyways.
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LeonD87
Jun 11 2013, 01:20:40 PM
A thing I noticed a while ago, was Hayters ponytail in some interviews.. And when I saw the E3 trailer. Boss had the same haircut? What a coincidence ? or?

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Its a coinsedence. Looks like Kojima planned for Big Boss to have a ponytail for a while. Remember this old image from two years ago?

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For some reason I really don't like Quiet... Anyone else the same?
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Jun 11 2013, 01:34:04 PM
For some reason I really don't like Quiet... Anyone else the same?
just another B and B
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MiiQ
Jun 11 2013, 11:29:05 AM
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Jun 11 2013, 11:12:03 AM
Yep. And also, isn't there a new trailer coming out today?
Yup. I think we'll be getting a 7 min or 9 min long trailer.



For anyone who happens to live in the same timezone, the trailer airs at 9pm gmt+2.
Ootko suomesta? Meil on kesäaika ;) gmt+3
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Are you from Finland? It's summer time GMT+3 instead of GMT+2.
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Shadow3r
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Jun 11 2013, 12:59:13 PM
Can someone make out the "Sins of the Father" lyric?
"I'm alive Pride feeds their blackened hearts And thirst must be quenched to hypocrasy Cleansing flames is the only way repent Renounce what made you (Words that kill) Would you speak them to me With your breath so still And makes me believe The sins never die Can't wash the blood off our hands Let the world (fill?) us on It's just means to an end Our salvations lies (In the voices) Beyond the truth (Let me suffer now) In my heart I just know that there's no (?) light of the dawn - in his eyes " - some youtuber ^_^
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I really dont think Snake is choking Chico... he's putting pressure on his collarbone with his forearm, not his throat. Being a master of CQC he would know how to choke somebody and that's not the way to do it. It's more of a "Tell me what you know you little prick" kind of action rather than an "I'm gonna choke you to death you traitorous fuck" kind of action.
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ziggysawdust
Jun 11 2013, 01:38:25 PM
Tazmo
Jun 11 2013, 01:34:04 PM
For some reason I really don't like Quiet... Anyone else the same?
just another B and B
We have barely seen anything to judge. By that logic, can't we just dismiss Sniper Wolf as just ''another B and B''?
I'm making all the judgement on the characters till we play the game, and to a lesser extent what we see in the trailers.
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he has chosen......poorly
Quiet has something going on with her being able to change her face. did anyone else notice that there is a dark design going across her cheeks and her eyes are darkened then the darkness in her eyes and cheeks retreat into her hairline upward.
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Hasa92
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Female Sniper and the game is at least partly set in Afghanistan... Wasn't Sniper Wolf from there too? Maybe she is related to Quiet. MGS seem's to have old characters predecessor's in games that are set in the past.
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Hasa92
Jun 11 2013, 02:34:01 PM
Female Sniper and the game is at least partly set in Afghanistan... Wasn't Sniper Wolf from there too? Maybe she is related to Quiet. MGS seem's to have old characters predecessor's in games that are set in the past.
No, she was a Kurd.
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Gaseous-Snake
Jun 11 2013, 01:44:25 PM
I really dont think Snake is choking Chico... he's putting pressure on his collarbone with his forearm, not his throat. Being a master of CQC he would know how to choke somebody and that's not the way to do it. It's more of a "Tell me what you know you little prick" kind of action rather than an "I'm gonna choke you to death you traitorous fuck" kind of action.
Can just imagine BB interrogating Chico Jack Bauer style. Sutherland roaring in the kid's face, "what did you tell them? Tell me now"!!!
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snakeinthegear
Jun 11 2013, 02:37:13 PM
Gaseous-Snake
Jun 11 2013, 01:44:25 PM
I really dont think Snake is choking Chico... he's putting pressure on his collarbone with his forearm, not his throat. Being a master of CQC he would know how to choke somebody and that's not the way to do it. It's more of a "Tell me what you know you little prick" kind of action rather than an "I'm gonna choke you to death you traitorous fuck" kind of action.
Can just imagine BB interrogating Chico Jack Bauer style. Sutherland roaring in the kid's face, "what did you tell them? Tell me now"!!!

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tell me where the talent is !
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Just had a thought about Quiet.

At first I wanted to think that she wouldn't be completely mute, becuase then she would lack character and personality and be pretty boring. But now I think she may well be completely mute.

Why? This is the first MGS game that is using facial motion capture of actors, and Kojipro has stressed how much they want to make MGSV an emotional experience.

They decided to make Quiet a mute, because of the challenge in it. Because it is difficult to give a mute character personality, to have a mute character weigh in on the player emotionally. But they are bragging about the technology, character modeling, and writing by attempting and achieving just that. I'm saying from the developer's perspective, Quiet is a showcase of how far video games as a medium have come.

Think if they made a character who didn't talk in previous MGS games. It would be boring, because in the past technological limitations required a character's character be expressed via their voice acting lines. Kojipro also likes to think MGSV will be an advance in storytelling in general.

What distracts from this aim is her mostly nude attractive appearance. How many female characters has there been in the MGS universe that did not look like they could be a model? MGS fans have grown up, they could get away with it by now? Or not they figure, due to an entirely male audience.
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It's a Kojima trope. We've got way more weird things from this series than a scantily clad sniper. Plus, if my theory is correct, it makes complete sense. Freedom of speech and all.
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