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| That Fat Hispanic | Oct 9 2014, 11:53:06 PM Post #781 |
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It was confirmed months back that he was Mantis. |
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| KmdtKain | Oct 9 2014, 11:56:44 PM Post #782 |
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I hope it's young mantis that would turn out to be some crazy stuff. |
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| Risev | Oct 9 2014, 11:58:55 PM Post #783 |
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Got it Memeorized?
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It was? That's news for me. Edited by Risev, Oct 9 2014, 11:59:10 PM.
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| That Fat Hispanic | Oct 10 2014, 12:05:13 AM Post #784 |
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Yep, in one of the GameInformer articles earlier this year, Kojima confirmed it along with the burning man to be a fiery ghost of Volgin. |
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| KmdtKain | Oct 10 2014, 12:07:52 AM Post #785 |
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Another quick question. Is there a release date,because I have heard rumors that it's march 13 or march 31. |
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| Old Liquid | Oct 10 2014, 12:36:00 AM Post #786 |
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No he didn`t. The Gameinformer article was posted at the start of this year. So why would he call the new figurine "Man on Fire" if he already said it was Volgin? |
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| ideologic | Oct 10 2014, 01:23:38 AM Post #787 |
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No release date yet. Hang in there. |
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| That Fat Hispanic | Oct 10 2014, 01:36:48 AM Post #788 |
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Here's proof But yeah, if he confirmed it was Volgin, you may as well call the figurine Volgin rather than Man on Fire. |
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| ballisticola | Oct 10 2014, 01:59:21 AM Post #789 |
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Still we carry you.
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Where's the proof in that? |
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| Risev | Oct 10 2014, 03:00:27 AM Post #790 |
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See, that problem with that is that we don't know which parts were actually confirmed by KP, and which parts are speculations by Gameinformer. |
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| ballisticola | Oct 10 2014, 10:49:47 AM Post #791 |
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What do you mean? It's clearly Game Informer speculating, or they wouldn't say, "Haunting figures appear, resembling characters from the series' past". None of it is a quote. |
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| abstract-one | Oct 10 2014, 11:09:12 AM Post #792 |
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Yeah I agree that that isn't proof. |
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| Kelesis | Oct 10 2014, 11:28:54 AM Post #793 |
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Yeah, I was gonna say the same. It's kinda funny when you think about it though. As with Eli, it's most definitely totally Liquid. I don't know why we can't just assume it's PM or Liquid, and then accept if we're wrong in the end? I think the reason is because Kojima hasn't said "In the hospital scene when you encounter Psycho Mantis..." like he does when talking of Ocelot, Kaz, BB, Quiet etc. Since Kojima hasn't directly stated those characters are who we think they are, are we defending Kojima's intent to keep it a really bad secret? Because there's no other reason he wouldn't just say - "Yeah, that's Psycho Mantis" if he didn't intend to keep us guessing or wanted it to be revealed in the game. Like if I overheard someone say, "yeah TPP is coming out next year and Ocelot and Psycho Mantis are in it" I'd be all "Uh uh uh. We don't know that it's Psycho Mantis. Sure, he's the age he would be around the time period, and he's floating like he did in MGS1, and he is also wearing that gas mask, and he's causing some trippy shit to happen in the hospital, and there's lots of fire around him - didn't he say he burned his village down? Probably with fire right? Still. It's not confirmed!"
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| ideologic | Oct 10 2014, 11:44:13 AM Post #794 |
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The thing that bothers me about Eli... It is almost too easy to guess that it's Liquid. 90% of me believes that is Liquid, but the other 10% can't help but feel suspicious of why Kojima would make it so easy to guess his identity. This is mostly because of Kojima's reputation for misleading MGS fans on a hardcore, persistent level. Again, Eli is MOST LIKELY Liquid Snake but don't forget who we're dealing with. |
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| Kelesis | Oct 10 2014, 12:23:33 PM Post #795 |
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To put it simply, I don't think Kojima ever intended for Eli to be a secret that he's Liquid. I think he intended Eli to be seen as a kid that is a part of the story of MGSV separate from Liquid (since he isn't the Liquid we know in MGS1). Also, allowing Eli to be so obviously Liquid is really for the fans. He knows that we know that the clone kids needs to be a part of this time in Boss' story. It's as if he's saying, "you know who it is, but he's not that guy - yet. Right now, he's just Eli". Come to think of it, TPP will be an origin story for a lot of characters. Assuming we'll see Otacon walking around with a Gundam action figure watching Saturday Morning Animes. Edited by Kelesis, Oct 10 2014, 12:26:11 PM.
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| The Baneposter | Oct 10 2014, 12:31:56 PM Post #796 |
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''It's Kojima'' is not a good argument. People always come out with outrageous with that backing it up but in reality minus MGS2, alot of the things fans come up with are significantly overblown vs what he actually does. |
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| minimii | Oct 10 2014, 02:24:49 PM Post #797 |
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Yup. The only real misleading twist Kojima has ever really pulled so far was MGS2. He's really not all that daring. |
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| ideologic | Oct 10 2014, 03:50:24 PM Post #798 |
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Yeah, I guess you guys are right. MGS2 was a big twist, though. And, it seems like the idea behind MGSV was to fall along the same lines of sending us in a different direction than what we were led to believe initially. This includes the reveal of Kiefer as Big Boss and the whole "Moby Dick Studios" thing (even if that last one was somewhat obvious to many fans, I'm sure some of the more casual MGS players didn't latch on to that one). |
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| SOL!D_SN@KE | Oct 10 2014, 06:11:58 PM Post #799 |
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There is a video saying that the Japanese letters on the back of Eli's shirt translates to "Liquid man" (or something close to that)... If that's not a 100% guarantee then I don't know what is. |
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| Old Liquid | Oct 10 2014, 11:22:24 PM Post #800 |
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It says "Liquid person" It`s undeniably him. |
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