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E3 Trailer discussion thread
Topic Started: Jun 10 2013, 06:07:21 PM (18,640 Views)
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I don't know whether the matter has already been raised and explained but what's that beeping sound at the end of trailer ? Is it morse code, electrocardiogram sounds or sound of Geiger counter an instrument used for measuring radiation ?
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Oct 12 2014, 09:57:36 PM
I don't know whether the matter has already been raised and explained but what's that beeping sound at the end of trailer ? Is it morse code, electrocardiogram sounds or sound of Geiger counter an instrument used for measuring radiation ?
Might have something to do with young Psycho Mantis.
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Dunno if this was brought up elsewhere... Sorry if so. I'm not referring to the 2013 trailer, but 2014. I know many are insistent that the fallen soldiers being cremated are from MSF. Why then are DD flags draped over the caskets?
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I'm pretty sure that Kojima said that there will be events in TPP to push BB further towards revenge. Remember in that other trailer, how when Kaz was first rescued he seemed more aggressive than the reluctant, (I'm already a demon" BB? But in the Nuclear trailer he's screaming and kneeling in blood, etc?

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Er, I think I went off on a tangent, but basically what I'm saying is those saying that MSF soldiers are being cremated are wrong. Those are almost certainly Diamond Dogs killed early in TPP to give BB's revenge another kickstart.
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Big Boss probably says to the fallen Diamond Dogs soldiers: "I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea, I will always be with you."

So basically he means that unlike the MSF soldiers who were lost out to sea after the Mother Base destruction, he will keep the Diamond Dogs soldiers close to him, which is why he won't bury them at sea.
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Who would fish dead bodies out of the sea and then keep them for 9 years? :D
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Yeah, it's a known disaster. It made the news. Pretty sure you couldn't go fish hundreds of bodies out without being detected. And nine years later? No way.
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Oct 16 2014, 11:04:29 AM
Big Boss probably says to the fallen Diamond Dogs soldiers: "I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea, I will always be with you."

So basically he means that unlike the MSF soldiers who were lost out to sea after the Mother Base destruction, he will keep the Diamond Dogs soldiers close to him, which is why he won't bury them at sea.
I'm liking this idea. Can't wait to see what happened to cause this. Whatever it is, it must share nearly the same amount of significance as the destruction of MSF since it seems to tear Big Boss apart even more.
Edited by ideologic, Oct 16 2014, 11:25:31 AM.
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Perhaps a Soviet group slaughters a lot of Diamond Dogs, and captures and tortures Kaz, and this revenge is like a warm-up for their ultimate revenge against Cipher. Big Boss must have grown pretty close with the whole Diamond Dogs unit to feel this pain.

Or perhaps the slaughter of Diamond Dogs soldiers causes him to flash back to the MSF destruction, and he regains that lost painful memory.
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Wow, yeah. It's probably both, tbh. I would really be excited to see it happen that way, and I've always thought that "rescuing Kaz" wouldn't be the first mission in TPP despite popular belief.
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I hope it is at the beginning, following the hospital. When I play, I want to get what I know for sure out of the way. I want to say, "I wonder what will happen next?" Rather than "when is the Kaz mission?"
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You're right on many levels there. I already feel like I know too much as it is, even though I'm always clamoring for new information and can't help myself.
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Oct 14 2014, 04:50:07 AM
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Oct 12 2014, 09:57:36 PM
I don't know whether the matter has already been raised and explained but what's that beeping sound at the end of trailer ? Is it morse code, electrocardiogram sounds or sound of Geiger counter an instrument used for measuring radiation ?
Might have something to do with young Psycho Mantis.
Or Code Talker :ninja:
Edited by Skull Face, Oct 16 2014, 08:22:06 PM.
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If another tragedy befalls his men YET AGAIN it will become kind of fucking ridiculous. I've already swallowed him starting god knows how many units and bases and organizations, but he's sufficiently lost enough to kick him into revenge. Having another event happen just makes little sense to me and seems like a move to so people who didn't play GZ don't feel lost about motivations.
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Oct 16 2014, 08:24:53 PM
If another tragedy befalls his men YET AGAIN it will become kind of fucking ridiculous. I've already swallowed him starting god knows how many units and bases and organizations, but he's sufficiently lost enough to kick him into revenge. Having another event happen just makes little sense to me and seems like a move to so people who didn't play GZ don't feel lost about motivations.
The thing is, the only thing that can get Big Boss emotional is when his men get hurt. As shown by Portable Ops, when Johnathon dies. Or during the Fall of Motherbase, he's completely calm, until one of his soldiers dies in his arms, which causes him to let out an agonizing howl of pure anguish, and going Rambo for a little.

Even when he kills the boss, he doesn't loose his cool. But when he see's one of his soldiers get killed, he looses it.

And let's be honest, Big Boss entire life was just tragedy after tragedy.
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He lost his men at Mother Base. That isn't enough to make him rage? does he just hold a grudge for the first five minutes and then forget?
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I think at the beginning of the game, he's going to be mourning his men (as shown by the ashes scene in the trailer), and by his codename, Punished Snake. Displaying anger at Cypher, but being Melancholic most of the time.

Somthing traumatic is going to happen (I think ever Diamond Dogs is going to be slaughtered, or he's going to massacre innocents during an accident) Then the screaming scene from the trailer over the mound of corpses is going to happen, and he's going to become "Venom Snake."
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Oh the agony of waiting for this game,it's just like, FORK IT OVER ALREADY! But then there's the keep calm,mates when this thing is released its gonna be the game of the freakin' century.
Edited by KmdtKain, Oct 16 2014, 08:53:46 PM.
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Oct 16 2014, 08:33:40 PM
Even when he kills the boss, he doesn't loose his cool. But when he see's one of his soldiers get killed, he looses it.
Did you play Peace Walker? Or even watch the end of MGS3? Maybe he keeps his cool for the rest of the mission but killing the boss fucked BB up big time. Like for the rest of his life it changed the way he thinks and acts. He's been at the breaking point for a while even before Motherbase got blown up
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I want him to be angry at Zero and The Patriots for the downfall of MSF, just done shove in yet another tragedy upon his men or whatever. Too redundant and unnecessary.

Massacring innocents is a good possibility.
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