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E3 Trailer discussion thread
Topic Started: Jun 10 2013, 06:07:21 PM (18,637 Views)
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From the E3 2013 trailer, I wonder if Code Talker will be a side (optional) character. If this is the case, then I wonder if we'll get more main characters or side characters. Should be interesting to find out.

The main African child soldier with that cool hair - do you think he's a main or side character? I personally think he's a main because of the whole child soldier theme. Perhaps the other child soldiers are optional and it's up to you whether they survive or not.

Perhaps you can meet other young soldiers later on, such as Frank Jaeger, etc. If they even go near the place mentioned in MGS1.
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He definitely plays a significant role, regardless of whether he's Drebin or not, I think he'll have a bigger role for the simple fact we have seen far less of him than someone like Quiet. We haven't been formally introduced to the character, either. Plus, we see BB standing over the destroyed village in Africa at the beginning of the E3 trailer. Wonder if this is related somehow? Maybe they're all orphaned and BB takes them in.
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Good point - I'm 100% sure that destroyed village is related, since it seems to be the same destroyed tank in that village.

Maybe he can also be a buddy or work at Mother Base.

Hope to see more characters - can't wait!
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Me too :) I bet there are a lot of them to come that we haven't seen in the trailers at all. I'm glad he's keeping people like Gray Fox a secret. Any other important characters from this time frame that weren't introduced in the trailers?
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Hard to say really. But surely Zero is one of them.
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You think Zero will actually show his face or is he going to stay in hiding and challenge BB from behind the scenes?
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Oct 22 2014, 12:24:30 PM
Me too :) I bet there are a lot of them to come that we haven't seen in the trailers at all. I'm glad he's keeping people like Gray Fox a secret. Any other important characters from this time frame that weren't introduced in the trailers?
His name is Frank! Just kidding :P

What about Naomi? Maybe she could help out at Mother Base by feeding the animals or something.

If there are other worlds beyond Africa and Afghanistan, then maybe Kojima can retcon Sniper Wolf's age and have Big Boss rescue her from wherever she is - Kuwait or something? Actually, would the attack on Kuwait by Iraq have happened yet? I don't really think so - can't be bothered to look it up lol.

Vulcan Raven has some connection to the Navajo thing, so maybe he can be associated with Code Talker?

Zero will obviously be a main character - he has to be. Mantis is probably a main character too, since he's at the hospital where you'd have no choice in choosing what path you want to take.
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You think Zero will actually show his face or is he going to stay in hiding and challenge BB from behind the scenes?
I can't recall the exact source, but I think during this whole war Big Boss never physically see's Zero again until he kills him in MGS4. Don't quote me on that though as I could be very wrong here lol.

But as for whether we'll see him, I get the feeling we will. But I think throughout the entire game he'll be warring with BB from behind the scenes.

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Me too :) I bet there are a lot of them to come that we haven't seen in the trailers at all. I'm glad he's keeping people like Gray Fox a secret. Any other important characters from this time frame that weren't introduced in the trailers?
His name is Frank! Just kidding :P

What about Naomi? Maybe she could help out at Mother Base by feeding the animals or something.

If there are other worlds beyond Africa and Afghanistan, then maybe Kojima can retcon Sniper Wolf's age and have Big Boss rescue her from wherever she is - Kuwait or something? Actually, would the attack on Kuwait by Iraq have happened yet? I don't really think so - can't be bothered to look it up lol.

Vulcan Raven has some connection to the Navajo thing, so maybe he can be associated with Code Talker?

Zero will obviously be a main character - he has to be. Mantis is probably a main character too, since he's at the hospital where you'd have no choice in choosing what path you want to take.
You're right lol, he is still Frank Jaegar until the Outer Heaven days.

But I don't know, do you think he would retcon Wolf's age even with the "romance" between her and Otacon? As annoying as his little thing with Naomi was in MGS4, I think his feelings for Wolf were important to his character in MGS1.

The Kuwait invasion happened in 1990. But depending on how much time is covered in the game, there's still a possibility for this. Maybe Kojima is only talking about retconning small things like dates where things were said to happen in previous games such as the rescue.
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Me too :) I bet there are a lot of them to come that we haven't seen in the trailers at all. I'm glad he's keeping people like Gray Fox a secret. Any other important characters from this time frame that weren't introduced in the trailers?
His name is Frank! Just kidding :P

What about Naomi? Maybe she could help out at Mother Base by feeding the animals or something.

If there are other worlds beyond Africa and Afghanistan, then maybe Kojima can retcon Sniper Wolf's age and have Big Boss rescue her from wherever she is - Kuwait or something? Actually, would the attack on Kuwait by Iraq have happened yet? I don't really think so - can't be bothered to look it up lol.

Vulcan Raven has some connection to the Navajo thing, so maybe he can be associated with Code Talker?

Zero will obviously be a main character - he has to be. Mantis is probably a main character too, since he's at the hospital where you'd have no choice in choosing what path you want to take.
You're right lol, he is still Frank Jaegar until the Outer Heaven days.

But I don't know, do you think he would retcon Wolf's age even with the "romance" between her and Otacon? As annoying as his little thing with Naomi was in MGS4, I think his feelings for Wolf were important to his character in MGS1.

The Kuwait invasion happened in 1990. But depending on how much time is covered in the game, there's still a possibility for this. Maybe Kojima is only talking about retconning small things like dates where things were said to happen in previous games such as the rescue.
Seems to me this game could take place over quite a long time,at least two or three years if you've seen DD,although I'm not to sure about it being ten years. As their quest for revenge does not come to fruition they continue to get more soldiers,more "friends",and maybe a few acquaintances that will be/are in the other games.
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@ideologic - aw right, I forgot about her romance with Otacon. In that case, I don't think Kojima will retcon her age.

@KmdtKain - Regarding how many years the game will span, I wonder if it'll even go beyond 1 year since one of the themes seem to be about the year 1984. The George Orwell novel of the same name is about government control, etc.
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Zero needs to show his face to give characterization after that horrible MGS4 turn.
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I hope so too. He will probably show up somewhere physically at least once since Big Boss has to regain control of Foxhound somewhere down the line.

If some of the message in TPP is related to 1984's themes, then we will probably see Zero's AI patriots gaining more of an artificial identity and assuming more control, so while I think we may see him, I don't think it will be for long. And definitely not long enough to develop and get us more acquainted to his character.
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I wonder if he'll look like Major Zero or like he did in MGS4.
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He woll look like Jimmy Saville
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So at the end of the trailer why would Boss be killing MFS/DD soldiers,did someone break his brain?
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Zero needs to show his face to give characterization after that horrible MGS4 turn.
I would get a kick out of never seeing him again :D Like some kind of invisible God making people do things.

But I also like the idea of him sitting in the corner smoking (rival brand) cigars :cool:
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Or watching James Bond movies. Some villain.
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