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| Batchat; Because he's the Goddamn Batman | |
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| Freeman | Nov 15 2013, 03:13:35 PM Post #301 |
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Nah I don't care about how it relates to the comics tbh. I don't have a problem with Bane looking different or any other differences from the source material. They just plain suck. Actually getting into the comics made me despise TDK even more. One of the things I liked about it, is how they play that card of the Joker and Batman being equally insane, just on opposite sides, but after reading The Killing Joke and A Serious House on Serious Earth I see that wasn't really his idea to begin with. Still liked Ledger's performance though, when I was in the theater, almost sleeping during the movie, the only thing that kept me exited was to think about Joker's next appearance. |
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| The Baneposter | Nov 15 2013, 03:14:12 PM Post #302 |
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What about the Microwave Emitter? and I agree, it wasn't a plothole, but it is the one I usually see around when people want to argue plotholes. CBJ@ Thank you. Too many god damn times I see wannabe comic elitists go ''waah waah it isn't the same'' when really, Nolan's comic books are probably the truest to the comic books, yet. Heck, FFS, Batman KILLS in the Burton films yet no one gives a damn fuck about it, but BANE DOESN'T HAVE VENOM? NO SIR YOU CROSSED THE FUCKING LINE THERE! |
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| Cardboard Box Jesus | Nov 15 2013, 03:22:55 PM Post #303 |
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Meh, shit like Bane not having venom doesn't bother me. He managed to blend The Dark Knight Returns, No Man's Land and Knightfall, plus numerous other nods, into a decent film. The Dark Knight had some great nods as well to a bunch of Joker stuff, plus a decent rendition of the Long Halloween (though I was disappointed he killed Harvey off) and it was a perfect portrayal of Batman and Joker's relationship. And Batman Begins was fantastic. A really great story of some of Bruce's training, and melding his mentor (I've forgotten his name in the comics) with Ra's Al'ghul was fantastic. A decent adaptation of Year One, and a great portrayal of Scarecrow, who I really like as a villain and hasn't been seen in the films before. It may not be perfect. But it's a great realistic looking trilogy that remains faithful to the original stories, while telling a new one at the same time. |
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| Scrotum Lover | Nov 15 2013, 03:27:01 PM Post #304 |
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for the record i dont care how closely an adaptation follows the source and i have read tons of batman. @aragorn, if you dont see the microwave plothole, which is one of many, i dont know how productive this conversation will be. |
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| The Baneposter | Nov 15 2013, 03:45:17 PM Post #305 |
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Do we know the details of the device? not really. Would Wayne Tech/Enterprises decide to magically a ray of doom? the details of the Emitter are never fully revealed, just like tons of Batman gadgets and technology. Unless I missed something, you can't really call it a plothole. |
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| The Departed | Nov 15 2013, 05:09:58 PM Post #306 |
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as for that famous 'plot hole'. people really don't connect the dots, do they? just a few scenes before christian batman was back, he dropped the rope and freed men who had been trapped in that prison for god knows how long. is it so farfetched that one of them may have had a plane or supplies to get by like the smugglers in tdk who got him his plane for china, and as thanks for freeing him, let him use it? as for getting back into the city without them noticing, motherfucker's batman. no matter how you choose to interpret it, the fact remains; it's irrelevant all the same. same with microwave emitter. vaporize water supplies and cause it all to evaporate in the air, except this time, it would evaporate and cause the fear poison to become airborne. what's the plothole there?
then, son, you might have narcolepsy Edited by The Departed, Nov 15 2013, 05:27:29 PM.
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awards and such r.i.p. to the coolest dude we'll ever know
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| BULUPTAX | Nov 15 2013, 05:30:01 PM Post #307 |
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There was something that the Nostalgia Critic said which I agree with completely. He was talking about the Nolan films and he brought up a really good point. Everything the characters do is analyzed in the film, whenever a character does something significant it's always explained between characters why it was done, it leaves you with nothing to think about. The scenes were the characters talk about their motivations for the actions and such feel more like a discussion between film critics rather than characters. |
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| The Departed | Nov 15 2013, 05:40:07 PM Post #308 |
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only they're usually preceded with something along the lines of: "you never learned to mind your surroundings" "you have nothing!" "you have my permission you to die" that statement doesn't seem like maybe a bit of an overgeneralization? if not, got a few examples? |
awards and such r.i.p. to the coolest dude we'll ever know
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| Scrotum Lover | Nov 15 2013, 06:23:43 PM Post #309 |
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getting back to gotham isnt a plothole we just dont see a pointless travel montage. If the fear toxin is in the water then why does no one feel the effects? Are we suppose to believe that nobody boiled a kettle or took a shower or made steam any other way the whole time? |
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| The Departed | Nov 15 2013, 08:24:45 PM Post #310 |
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maybe they did, maybe they didn't. who cares? how is that a plothole? the goal is mass terror through all of gotham, it doesn't matter if we haven't seen the effects on one or two households who drink tea. would having a random scene between the story just cut of someone pouring tea and going insane have made the film any better? would it expand on story or character even a little bit? because in order for a scene to be warrant existing, it had to either expand character or push story forward. |
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| Scrotum Lover | Nov 15 2013, 08:43:06 PM Post #311 |
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everybody would have been insane from showering, obviously. |
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| The Baneposter | Nov 15 2013, 09:16:35 PM Post #312 |
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This scene is just so strong. It all builds up masterful to the one occurrence you know they will recite, and when they do, it just works. |
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| Snake Eater | Nov 15 2013, 09:46:53 PM Post #313 |
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Not even Batman can beat Batman. |
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| Shackleford | Nov 15 2013, 11:08:42 PM Post #314 |
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I wouldn't say Serious House is the best Bman comic or even close. Good read though. |
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| BULUPTAX | Nov 16 2013, 02:31:14 PM Post #315 |
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Is Gotham By Gaslight any good? I saw it at Gametraders today and it looked interesting but I wasn't sure if I should've bought it or not. |
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| Shackleford | Nov 16 2013, 02:32:28 PM Post #316 |
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Worth checking out. |
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| Gene | Nov 16 2013, 02:43:13 PM Post #317 |
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I really do love reading your views on the Nolan Batman films With that said, Batman Begins was fantastic, it's my favourite live action Batman.... Under the Red Hood is my all time favourite Batman film ever though. |
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| Scrotum Lover | Nov 16 2013, 02:48:53 PM Post #318 |
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i really like the nolan trilogy, i know it has flaws but i can ignore them. |
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| Freeman | Nov 16 2013, 03:06:08 PM Post #319 |
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Lol sometimes I read my posts and think "fuck I'm such a dick", but yeah amongst the dickery I do express my legit opinion. |
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| Scrotum Lover | Nov 16 2013, 03:13:58 PM Post #320 |
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@phoulis lol, i dont think dk trilogy is nearly as bad as you do but i dont think its anywhere near as good as a lot of people make out either. I have heard people call tdk the best film ever which is ridiculous |
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