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Batchat; Because he's the Goddamn Batman
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 26 2013, 04:35:04 AM (9,491 Views)
Helikaon	Nov 22 2013, 01:59:43 PM Post #401
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	Bought a new copy of Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth earlier, my old copy was falling to pieces. I'm never going to fully understand this book and I'm pretty certain I hope I never do. Grant Morrison as a Batman writer > Batman writers who aren't Grant Morrison.
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


Freeman	Nov 22 2013, 02:20:11 PM Post #402
LUKE FREEMAN Posts: 13,942 Group: Members Member #17,383 Joined: Sep 9 2012	Man the conclusion of Knightfall fucking sucks.
	Dante Tibbs...The ... ideal ... pleb[/center]


Helikaon	Nov 22 2013, 02:29:02 PM Post #403
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	It's been a while since I read Knightfall. It's funny, Knightfall is the first Batman comic book storyline I can remember reading through. I had the collected omnibus when I was like 8 and all I remember is that I didn't have a clue what was going on, AzBat's scared me and I was really sad about Bruce's back.
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


Freeman	Nov 22 2013, 03:21:00 PM Post #404
LUKE FREEMAN Posts: 13,942 Group: Members Member #17,383 Joined: Sep 9 2012	The overall arc is great, but the ending is just so lackluster. Spoiler: click to toggle I was expecting Bane to destroy Jean Paul, and Bruce to make a great comeback.
	Dante Tibbs...The ... ideal ... pleb[/center]


Helikaon	Nov 22 2013, 03:24:14 PM Post #405
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	Might see if I can find a cheap omnibus somewhere. I've got the files on my laptop but I really hate reading 90's comics on a screen, really weird but I just can't seem to get through 90's work unless it's actually the real thing. Isn't the final ending where Spoiler: click to toggle The Bat and AzBat's duke it out in the rainswept train yard?
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


Shackleford	Nov 22 2013, 05:21:38 PM Post #406
The Jon Jones of MGSF Posts: 7,979 Group: Banned Member #14,394 Joined: Aug 13 2010 Playstation Network ID Rectal_Fungi Steam ID steamcommunity.com/id/eyeballinthesky/	No, Spoiler: click to toggle Azbat and Bruce fight in the cave. The end is pretty stupid. Bruce leads Az to a spot in the cave that's too small for him to fit in with his armor. Az removes it, crawls to Bruce. Bruce knocks back some boards, sunlight comes in and blinds Az, then he gets all "Waaah I'm not worthy, you ARE the Batman" or someshit. He sees Bruce the same way he sees the St. Dumas visions. Valley is a bitch. Edited by Shackleford, Nov 22 2013, 05:22:12 PM.
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Helikaon	Nov 22 2013, 05:31:37 PM Post #407
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	Man I really need to re-read Knightfall, I don't remember that at all haha. Spoiler: click to toggle But the rainy trainyard fight is AzBat's against Bane, right? Where Azrael finally trashes Bane enough to convince Gordon he's a worthy Batman? I definitely remember A fight in the rain, but truth be told that's describing pretty much every Batman story written since the Dark Knight Returns. Batman just looks too awesome fighting some asshole against a lightning lit backdrop haha.
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


BULUPTAX	Nov 22 2013, 05:34:12 PM Post #408
Posts: 7,053 Group: Tokugawa Heavy Industries Member #14,859 Joined: Nov 26 2010 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Playstation Network ID h1432nic Steam ID BULUPTAX	I personally thought the conclusion to Hush was also pretty lackluster.
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Helikaon	Nov 22 2013, 05:38:52 PM Post #409
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	Hush in general is pretty lackluster imo. Or at least in regards to it's reputation. I think it's got incedible art and the general idea is good but some people put it up there with stuff like Year One, The Long Halloween and The Dark Knight Returns, it's nowhere near that level of greatness in my opinion. It's a really good intro to Batman though, if someone asked me to recommend a book to "get into" Batman then Hush would be pretty near the top of the list. Heart of Hush on the otherhand... Fuck I love Paul Dini.
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


BULUPTAX	Nov 22 2013, 05:40:58 PM Post #410
Posts: 7,053 Group: Tokugawa Heavy Industries Member #14,859 Joined: Nov 26 2010 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Playstation Network ID h1432nic Steam ID BULUPTAX	Helikaon Nov 22 2013, 05:38:52 PM Hush in general is pretty lackluster imo. Or at least in regards to it's reputation. I think it's got incedible art and the general idea is good but some people put it up there with stuff like Year One, The Long Halloween and The Dark Knight Returns, it's nowhere near that level of greatness in my opinion. It's a really good intro to Batman though, if someone asked me to recommend a book to "get into" Batman then Hush would be pretty near the top of the list. Heart of Hush on the otherhand... Fuck I love Paul Dini. I wouldn't put it that high either but I still really liked it. Anyway conclusions to epic stories are hard to do and are really easy to screw up.
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The Baneposter	Nov 23 2013, 10:03:12 AM Post #411
Only me Posts: 33,855 Group: A Relatively Big Guy Member #17,779 Joined: Dec 26 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag Why? Playstation Network ID HaSoOoN-MHD Steam ID sad cyberpunk man	Freeman, don't tell me after reading Knightfall that you still won't admit to Bane being one of the greatest villains in comics? /: And yes, the entire thing started to go down hill, and bad after Breaking of the Bat. God, I miss that Bane. And I have yet to muster the effort to start reading Hush, going to start Secret Six Vol. 3 after I finish Year 100.
	Spoiler: click to toggle bowie ): DE Quotes Rooster Some say he doesn't understand the concept of stairs, others say he thinks Google is the French word for potato. All we know is he's our tamed speed poster, he's called Aragorn. Octavious Wrex but my mom was a psychopath. She is a really cool person Strangelove See, I don't mean to stereotype, but when it comes to opinions, you my friend, are god-like. TSF's still cool Awards


TheVrajMeister	Nov 23 2013, 10:23:16 AM Post #412
Light Infantry Posts: 447 Group: Members Member #18,053 Joined: Feb 21 2013 Xbox Live Gamer Tag TheVrajMeister Playstation Network ID TheVrajMeister	Knightfall is not bad, can't remember the exact ending myself so probably should give it another go some time soon. Anyone reading Snyder's Zero Year? Not bad so far but nothing that special. Edited by TheVrajMeister, Nov 23 2013, 10:23:31 AM.



Cardboard Box Jesus	Nov 23 2013, 01:08:43 PM Post #413
Imperial Overlord of the Multiverse Posts: 7,556 Group: Tokugawa Heavy Industries Member #2,815 Joined: Jul 26 2006 Playstation Network ID Deyvetown	Man, personally I like the Knightfall ending. Spoiler: click to toggle I loved it when he made Azbat crawl through the tunnels to reach him and forced him to acknowledge him as Batman basically from his presence alone.[/quote]
	Rest in peace brother . . . Quote: You either die a hero, or you live long enough to watch yourself become a filthy casual.


Helikaon	Nov 23 2013, 02:35:50 PM Post #414
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	TheVrajMeister Nov 23 2013, 10:23:16 AM Knightfall is not bad, can't remember the exact ending myself so probably should give it another go some time soon. Anyone reading Snyder's Zero Year? Not bad so far but nothing that special. I think it's going great so far. The art is glorious, but all of Capullo's stuff generally is when it comes to the Bat haha. Detective Comics #25 (Jim Gordon Zero Year tie in) might be my favourite issue of any comic of the New 52 so far. Spoiler: click to toggle Batman only appears on one page and it's absolutely glorious and I legit did a spit take when I saw the last page of the latest Batman.
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


Freeman	Nov 23 2013, 03:46:21 PM Post #415
LUKE FREEMAN Posts: 13,942 Group: Members Member #17,383 Joined: Sep 9 2012	Aragorn Nov 23 2013, 10:03:12 AM Freeman, don't tell me after reading Knightfall that you still won't admit to Bane being one of the greatest villains in comics? /: And yes, the entire thing started to go down hill, and bad after Breaking of the Bat. God, I miss that Bane. And I have yet to muster the effort to start reading Hush, going to start Secret Six Vol. 3 after I finish Year 100. What do you mean still won't admit? I just got into it lol Yeah he's great, the arc is great, but the ending sucks.
	Dante Tibbs...The ... ideal ... pleb[/center]


Helikaon	Nov 23 2013, 03:53:43 PM Post #416
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	I think it's awesome how whenever Bane appears post-2012 in the comics he's usually shown at least once in the 'Hardy pose' with the coat. It's small stuff like that, like there's a Tumbler Batmobile now (and Batman calls it the Tumbler) that shows how the movies can influence the comics and not just the other way around. For all their faults on the movie front (i.e. pretending Batman and Superman are the only superheroes for like 40 years) I think Warner and DC have got a great handle when it comes to the movies. They're trying to keep them separate enough that they're not totally dependent on one another whereas Marvel basically treat it as one and the same when it comes to Avengers related comics. Plus it's awesome how Bane's treated as a semi A list Batman rogue now instead of a guy that pops up, wrecks shit and disappears for years without an appearance. A List: The Joker Catwoman Two-Face Penguin Ra's al Ghul And just below them: Bane The Riddler Talia al Ghul
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


Dirty Duck	Nov 24 2013, 01:31:21 AM Post #417
super𝖛𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖆𝖎𝖓 Posts: 17,036 Group: THI Global Moderator Member #15,962 Joined: Aug 11 2011 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Xbox Live Gamer Tag encunte Playstation Network ID Sabooza	Harley Quinn's got a new monthly comic, bought issue 0 today. It was a fun read, 17 artists, all drawing her in a different style in different scenarios throughout the comic, all linked because Harley breaks the fourth wall and the whole concept is that she;s trialling these artists as potential artists for her comic. Nice reference to The Animated Series in it. May buy this every month, since I haven't got an ongoing comic since I stopped buying Gambit after it got stupid in issue 4 or something.
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Freeman	Nov 24 2013, 01:37:06 AM Post #418
LUKE FREEMAN Posts: 13,942 Group: Members Member #17,383 Joined: Sep 9 2012	You guys are talkng about the KnoghtSaga as a whole. That has a great conclusion. But in Knightfall (one of the arcs) I hate how Spoiler: click to toggle Bane actually gets defeated by Jean Paul. I can't be the only one that was waiting for Bane to destroy that jackass, and for Bruce to come back, reclaim the Bat title and get back to Bane.
	Dante Tibbs...The ... ideal ... pleb[/center]


Helikaon	Nov 24 2013, 12:14:45 PM Post #419
*I am the night!* Posts: 10,999 Group: Members Member #3,838 Joined: Dec 31 2006	That's kinda the whole point of the story. The entire reason Knightfall was done was a reaction against the changing nature of superheroes at the time, it's essentially DC telling it's fans "Be careful what you wish for". "You people seriously want a new Batman who is more "badass" and edgy than Bruce? Well here you go, enjoy!". So we get a new Batman who absolutely sucked at being what people actually want Batman to be like and people were clamouring for Bruce to take up the cowl again.
	The less people know about the truth, the more they can fantasize. My blog! Clicky clicky. PSN ID: doctorstrangesf


The Baneposter	Nov 24 2013, 12:30:01 PM Post #420
Only me Posts: 33,855 Group: A Relatively Big Guy Member #17,779 Joined: Dec 26 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag Why? Playstation Network ID HaSoOoN-MHD Steam ID sad cyberpunk man	Hah, how is Bane an A-list villain now? he's essentially Hardy Bane gone terribly wrong. I like the design of him, though. We really just need the heads behind Knightfall to make Bane stories.
	Spoiler: click to toggle bowie ): DE Quotes Rooster Some say he doesn't understand the concept of stairs, others say he thinks Google is the French word for potato. All we know is he's our tamed speed poster, he's called Aragorn. Octavious Wrex but my mom was a psychopath. She is a really cool person Strangelove See, I don't mean to stereotype, but when it comes to opinions, you my friend, are god-like. TSF's still cool Awards


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