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Batchat; Because he's the Goddamn Batman
Topic Started: Oct 26 2013, 04:35:04 AM (9,507 Views)
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Concerning Superman, I'd like to direct your attention to this video:

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Being a comic fan myself, there is nothing I hate more than comic snobs. Those who absolute disgrace any adaptation just because the character may have had a scar on his left eye over his right eye, and i'm a big comic guy myself. They like to make themselves feel better by sticking to the ''clearly superior material''.
Case in point, Bane in TDKR. It's Bane, his intelligent, he's powerful, he broke Batman, and yet everyone bitches about him. Granted some people have legitimate gripes with the character, but some are just looking for a reason to go ''lol that is not Bane''.
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bane fight vs mutant fight, i think mutant fight is better purely as a fight.
I was under the impression we were getting mos2, interesting
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Since we're talking about Superman too, allow me to start the topic of why Batman beats Superman...

Wait no, I'm not talking about an actual fight, because no matter how much you study both characters abilities, the results are always the same: Superman most likely wins and Batman always has low chances of victory, even if you give him lots of prep-time.

I am talking about why Batman beats Superman in popularity. Not only Bruce is more identifiable than a alien from another planet, but the stories concerning Batman have better narrative tension. Which one do you think creates more tension during a fight against a being like Brainiac? The one who can withstand a nuclear explosion or the one that can go down with a single bullet?

There are plenty more reason I know, but I want to hear the rest from you. Lazy? Maybe :P

Or you can argue why you think Superman is better...
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I know I've said this before but I really don't care if adaptations (such as movies, video games etc) stray from the source material, I like to see an adaptation take what the source material has created and do something new with it. It would be boring if it was just a carbon copy of the story from the comics, kind of like "you've read it as a comic, but this time its a movie!", however this does work with things like Watchmen and V For Vendetta because thats the only way the story can be told. With something like Batman there's a lot of versatility and opportunity for innovation.
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Superman's disguise always takes me out of his stories. Always. Especially the bullshit with Louis, when she doesn't know it's him. She stares the guy in the fucking face a zillion times but still can't realize it's Clark Kent?!
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As the video I posted earlier says, Superman is one of the hardest characters to make interesting. A lot of people are probably going to hate me for saying this but Superman is only still known today because he was the first Superhero, if he wasn't he would've just came and went and would've now been just a curious piece of history. Again as the video says "what's so special about him? He was the first superhero, that's it"

I don't think Superman is bad by any means, just incredibly dated (but that could just be my opinion), I'm sure he can be made awesome again, he's just difficult to write for.
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anyone else think they should cover mark hamill in makeup and let him be the joker?
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Oct 30 2013, 03:15:38 PM
anyone else think they should cover mark hamill in makeup and let him be the joker?
No, 'cuz he's fat and old now.
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Everyone that remembers Mask of the Phantasm loves it. Always comes up on other forums when people make "best animated Batman?" threads.

TDKR > TDK, animated or comic version. The only thing I didn't like about the TDKR movie was Batman's VA. A couple times he fucks up. "I AM THE LAW" and "Good soldier, good soldier." are the main offenders.
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I brought the fire shield up, 'cause what i'm just going to say will probably be considered asinine:
Ledger >>>> Hamill
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Oct 30 2013, 03:25:56 PM
I brought the fire shield up, 'cause what i'm just going to say will probably be considered asinine:
Ledger >>>> Hamill
You're right. It is...

lol Hammil's perfomance is cartoonish and dark enough to fit the Joker better than anyone else. Ledger may not be the best, but he came pretty damned close.
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Good ol' Mark isn't bad by any stretch of the word, I just overall prefer the more grounder Joker which means I naturally prefer how Ledger's performance fits the character.
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I like how he licked his scars in almost every scene lol
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It's like having a sore on your mouth, can't stop pokin at that shit.
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Oct 30 2013, 03:22:09 PM
Everyone that remembers Mask of the Phantasm loves it. Always comes up on other forums when people make "best animated Batman?" threads.

TDKR > TDK, animated or comic version. The only thing I didn't like about the TDKR movie was Batman's VA. A couple times he fucks up. "I AM THE LAW" and "Good soldier, good soldier." are the main offenders.
this post is kinda confusing to me. I think we should use tdkrises and tdkreturns to avoid confusion, or even just tdkri and tdkre.
Also i havent seen what hamil looks like recently so maybe thats a fair point.
I wouldnt mind if they used a wwe wrestler with a mask and a decent actors voice for bane next time he makes a live action appearance
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I already explained it earlier, dammit.
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You mean like Batman and Robin? that guy was a wrestler and Bane fucking sucked. When will people realize Bane isn't about physicality but mental intelligence and strategy? what helped him beat Batman was not his super steroids, but rather breaking him mentally. Besides, a dub job isn't the same as having the same actor working on it, it would be kind off with sync and all.
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Oct 30 2013, 03:58:15 PM
I wouldnt mind if they used a wwe wrestler with a mask and a decent actors voice for bane next time he makes a live action appearance
Just because we can't understand what Bane says? We'd have to do the same for Bats too lol

@Aragorn: don't ever mention that movie again XD
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Oct 30 2013, 02:57:42 PM
Concerning Superman, I'd like to direct your attention to this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=0PlwDbSYicM
lol that videos great.
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