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Tipping
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 19 2014, 07:04:07 PM (1,965 Views)
HollyBerry	Jan 19 2014, 09:26:32 PM Post #21
Maybe I'm A Lion Posts: 2,623 Group: Members Member #17,313 Joined: Sep 2 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag hollifferberry Playstation Network ID lly4081	Think its much different in the UK, but I also don't go anywhere fancy enough that expects a tip. I'm cheap AND a bad customer :3



Fear	Jan 19 2014, 09:43:27 PM Post #22
Anxiety hangover Posts: 6,014 Group: Members Member #1,580 Joined: Dec 23 2005 Xbox Live Gamer Tag By This Axe	I don't really have a set amount but I generally do at least 20%. I've always been a high tipper. Especially if it's a server that's waited on me multiple times. An extreme example is a bar I go to every Sunday night, often I'll tip my bartender there upwards of 50% and the Sunday before Christmas I went in and just had two beers and gave him a $10 tip on a $10 tab. Like I said though, that's an extreme example because he's served me every week for about a year and he always takes good care of me, charging half for drinks pretty often and sometimes even giving me free ones.



Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 09:49:07 PM Post #23
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	Servers give back to the people who take care of them. You'd be surprised.
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The Baneposter	Jan 19 2014, 09:49:11 PM Post #24
Only me Posts: 33,855 Group: A Relatively Big Guy Member #17,779 Joined: Dec 26 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag Why? Playstation Network ID HaSoOoN-MHD Steam ID sad cyberpunk man	I tip here or there but I don't think tipping should be an obligation just because the guy higher up doesn't pay enough. In the end, it's not really the customers duty to provide said waiter with the proper income. Tipping is a good habit but a person who doesn't do it shouldn't be looked down upon as a filthy, evil person.
	Spoiler: click to toggle bowie ): DE Quotes Rooster Some say he doesn't understand the concept of stairs, others say he thinks Google is the French word for potato. All we know is he's our tamed speed poster, he's called Aragorn. Octavious Wrex but my mom was a psychopath. She is a really cool person Strangelove See, I don't mean to stereotype, but when it comes to opinions, you my friend, are god-like. TSF's still cool Awards


Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 09:51:05 PM Post #25
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	Max Payne Jan 19 2014, 09:49:11 PM I tip here or there but I don't think tipping should be an obligation just because the guy higher up doesn't pay enough. In the end, it's not really the customers duty to provide said waiter with the proper income. Tipping is a good habit but a person who doesn't do it shouldn't be looked down upon as a filthy, evil person. That's a pretty weak mentality. It's not Burger King where they empty the fryer and wrap it up. They do countless things for you. If you can't afford to tip, you really have no business going out to eat.
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The Baneposter	Jan 19 2014, 09:55:08 PM Post #26
Only me Posts: 33,855 Group: A Relatively Big Guy Member #17,779 Joined: Dec 26 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag Why? Playstation Network ID HaSoOoN-MHD Steam ID sad cyberpunk man	Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 09:51:05 PM Max Payne Jan 19 2014, 09:49:11 PM I tip here or there but I don't think tipping should be an obligation just because the guy higher up doesn't pay enough. In the end, it's not really the customers duty to provide said waiter with the proper income. Tipping is a good habit but a person who doesn't do it shouldn't be looked down upon as a filthy, evil person. That's a pretty weak mentality. It's not Burger King where they empty the fryer and wrap it up. They do countless things for you. If you can't afford to tip, you really have no business going out to eat. They do those things with them receiving pay at the end for it, that's how it goes. Now if the people who hired them aren't paying enough, that's bad, yes. It's wrong, yes. But how is it the customer's responsibility? usually at the very least, the tipper isn't doing something so out of the ordinary and his job description like you make it sound. The issue should be addressed at the source, not on customer discretion. It's not as much pay per se as much as it may be principal.
	Spoiler: click to toggle bowie ): DE Quotes Rooster Some say he doesn't understand the concept of stairs, others say he thinks Google is the French word for potato. All we know is he's our tamed speed poster, he's called Aragorn. Octavious Wrex but my mom was a psychopath. She is a really cool person Strangelove See, I don't mean to stereotype, but when it comes to opinions, you my friend, are god-like. TSF's still cool Awards


Dirty Duck	Jan 19 2014, 09:57:20 PM Post #27
super𝖛𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖆𝖎𝖓 Posts: 17,036 Group: THI Global Moderator Member #15,962 Joined: Aug 11 2011 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Xbox Live Gamer Tag encunte Playstation Network ID Sabooza	Max Payne Jan 19 2014, 09:49:11 PM I tip here or there but I don't think tipping should be an obligation just because the guy higher up doesn't pay enough. In the end, it's not really the customers duty to provide said waiter with the proper income. Tipping is a good habit but a person who doesn't do it shouldn't be looked down upon as a filthy, evil person. I swear people have been through this with you already
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Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 10:01:35 PM Post #28
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	Then the prices of food would increase significantly if servers got paid minimum wage. Waiting tables and all the numerous details it entails is hard work. I think that part is pretty obvious. I get what you're saying. Nevertheless, it's not going to change. Just because you don't agree with the liability doesn't mean the server should suffer cause of a narrow-minded philosophy. This doesn't even have to be constricted to servers either. It's always thoughtful to tip anyone who provides a service.
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HollyBerry	Jan 19 2014, 10:08:27 PM Post #29
Maybe I'm A Lion Posts: 2,623 Group: Members Member #17,313 Joined: Sep 2 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag hollifferberry Playstation Network ID lly4081	Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 09:51:05 PM Max Payne Jan 19 2014, 09:49:11 PM I tip here or there but I don't think tipping should be an obligation just because the guy higher up doesn't pay enough. In the end, it's not really the customers duty to provide said waiter with the proper income. Tipping is a good habit but a person who doesn't do it shouldn't be looked down upon as a filthy, evil person. That's a pretty weak mentality. It's not Burger King where they empty the fryer and wrap it up. They do countless things for you. If you can't afford to tip, you really have no business going out to eat. You can't really tar people who don't tip when they eat out as undeserving. I agree with Aragorn on quite a bit of his post. I know jobs are hard to come by and all but I certainly wouldn't EXPECT tips if I was a waitress and if its that underpaid, get another job? (I'm sure this topic has been discussed somewhere else ) I had a friend who was a waitress and she said it was a pretty shite job (which I can imagine depending on the place) but she never condemned anyone who didn't tip her. Its an extremely nice gesture to give money to someone, be it a tip or gift buying etc. Tbh I'd only not tip someone if they were a bit rude, which they can be, or if they got something quite wrong like the wrong food etc. Also when I've been out with parents or relatives etc for birthday meals I've some pretty obnoxious waiters/waitresses who you know expect a tip from you at the end and thus don't necessarily be as polite as they should be. Just in my experience. Edited by HollyBerry, Jan 19 2014, 10:10:36 PM.



Bread	Jan 19 2014, 10:11:51 PM Post #30
MGSV is a bit shit Posts: 9,891 Group: Tokugawa Heavy Industries Member #9,903 Joined: Aug 19 2008 Playstation Network ID sliced-bread-no2	I don't tip at the moment as waiters/waitresses currently earn more than I do. Tbf, it's not really expected in the UK to provide a tip. Not unheard of, but certainly not expected.
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The Baneposter	Jan 19 2014, 10:13:11 PM Post #31
Only me Posts: 33,855 Group: A Relatively Big Guy Member #17,779 Joined: Dec 26 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag Why? Playstation Network ID HaSoOoN-MHD Steam ID sad cyberpunk man	Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 10:01:35 PM Then the prices of food would increase significantly if servers got paid minimum wage. Waiting tables and all the numerous details it entails is hard work. I think that part is pretty obvious. I get what you're saying. Nevertheless, it's not going to change. Just because you don't agree with the liability doesn't mean the server should suffer cause of a narrow-minded philosophy. This doesn't even have to be constricted to servers either. It's always thoughtful to tip anyone who provides a service. Nah, don't think they really would raise all that significantly considering how big of a business restaurants in general are, I can see some form of increase maybe but not that drastic. ''It's not going to change'' doesn't really help, I think if enough people try atleast something would change. Tipping is more of an optional thing in which if the service was really that good, you give as a sign of appreciation. Otherwise, it's practically like any other service or trade, you pay for what they're providing and the employers makes sure the service people are getting a share. Edited by The Baneposter, Jan 19 2014, 10:14:07 PM.
	Spoiler: click to toggle bowie ): DE Quotes Rooster Some say he doesn't understand the concept of stairs, others say he thinks Google is the French word for potato. All we know is he's our tamed speed poster, he's called Aragorn. Octavious Wrex but my mom was a psychopath. She is a really cool person Strangelove See, I don't mean to stereotype, but when it comes to opinions, you my friend, are god-like. TSF's still cool Awards


Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 10:13:13 PM Post #32
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	HollyBerry Jan 19 2014, 10:08:27 PM Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 09:51:05 PM Max Payne Jan 19 2014, 09:49:11 PM I tip here or there but I don't think tipping should be an obligation just because the guy higher up doesn't pay enough. In the end, it's not really the customers duty to provide said waiter with the proper income. Tipping is a good habit but a person who doesn't do it shouldn't be looked down upon as a filthy, evil person. That's a pretty weak mentality. It's not Burger King where they empty the fryer and wrap it up. They do countless things for you. If you can't afford to tip, you really have no business going out to eat. You can't really tar people who don't tip when they eat out as undeserving. I agree with Aragorn on quite a bit of his post. I know jobs are hard to come by and all but I certainly wouldn't EXPECT tips if I was a waitress. and if its that underpaid, get another job? (I'm sure this topic has been discussed somewhere else ) I had a friend who was a waitress and she said it was a pretty shite job (which I can imagine depending on the place) but she never condemned anyone who didn't tip her. Its an extremely nice gesture to give money to someone, be it a tip or gift buying etc. Tbh I'd only not tip someone if they were a bit rude, which they can be, or if they got something quite wrong like the wrong food etc. I have never met a server who was okay with customers not tipping them. I question your friends. It's certainly not a gift, when it's assumed and implied you provide the service for a return. If you don't tip, the waiter is essentially paying for you to eat due to taxes from the near non-existent paycheck. If the dining room is full and you get a large table count that sucks down several pops, runs you constantly, orders difficult menu items not listed, and is rude but then doesn't tip well or at all you find that acceptable? Your friend is full of shit or just strange. Edited by Heisenberg, Jan 19 2014, 10:14:50 PM.
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Dirty Duck	Jan 19 2014, 10:14:43 PM Post #33
super𝖛𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖆𝖎𝖓 Posts: 17,036 Group: THI Global Moderator Member #15,962 Joined: Aug 11 2011 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Xbox Live Gamer Tag encunte Playstation Network ID Sabooza	Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 10:13:13 PM mom-existent paycheck. I found this typo funnier than I should've
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Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 10:15:17 PM Post #34
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	Dirty Duck Jan 19 2014, 10:14:43 PM Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 10:13:13 PM mom-existent paycheck. I found this typo funnier than I should've Lol you caught me!
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HollyBerry	Jan 19 2014, 10:19:47 PM Post #35
Maybe I'm A Lion Posts: 2,623 Group: Members Member #17,313 Joined: Sep 2 2012 Xbox Live Gamer Tag hollifferberry Playstation Network ID lly4081	Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 10:13:13 PM HollyBerry Jan 19 2014, 10:08:27 PM Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 09:51:05 PM Max Payne Jan 19 2014, 09:49:11 PM I tip here or there but I don't think tipping should be an obligation just because the guy higher up doesn't pay enough. In the end, it's not really the customers duty to provide said waiter with the proper income. Tipping is a good habit but a person who doesn't do it shouldn't be looked down upon as a filthy, evil person. That's a pretty weak mentality. It's not Burger King where they empty the fryer and wrap it up. They do countless things for you. If you can't afford to tip, you really have no business going out to eat. You can't really tar people who don't tip when they eat out as undeserving. I agree with Aragorn on quite a bit of his post. I know jobs are hard to come by and all but I certainly wouldn't EXPECT tips if I was a waitress. and if its that underpaid, get another job? (I'm sure this topic has been discussed somewhere else ) I had a friend who was a waitress and she said it was a pretty shite job (which I can imagine depending on the place) but she never condemned anyone who didn't tip her. Its an extremely nice gesture to give money to someone, be it a tip or gift buying etc. Tbh I'd only not tip someone if they were a bit rude, which they can be, or if they got something quite wrong like the wrong food etc. I have never met a server who was okay with customers not tipping them. I question your friends. It's certainly not a gift, when it's assumed and implied you provide the service for a return. If you don't too, the waiter is essentially paying for you to eat due to taxes from the near mom-existent paycheck. If the dining room is full and you get a large table count that sucks down several pops, runs you constantly, orders difficult menu items not listed, and is rude but then doesn't tip well or at all you find that acceptable? Your friend is full of shit or just strange. In general in the UK its not assumed that you'll get tipped, not unless you're at quite a fancy restaurant in which these people have the disposable income coming out of their butt. General cafes/diners and normal restaurant workers aren't quite as expectant, at least in my experience but then again I don't eat out that much. I probably shouldn't if I got scorned at by people like you. Quote: If the dining room is full and you get a large table count that sucks down several pops, runs you constantly, orders difficult menu items not listed, and is rude but then doesn't tip well or at all you find that acceptable? Again, I know jobs and the like are hard to come by and sometimes if its all you can get then fair enough. But its your job as a waiter/waitress to fulfill those duties. You get difficult customers everywhere, just because someone was awkward at a checkout at a supermarket doesn't really mean you expect a tip does it? Also Quote: Your friend is full of shit or just strange. Thats really not your judgement to make, not to mention rude.



Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 10:24:23 PM Post #36
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	If it's different in another country, you guys should mention that. I have no idea where you guys are from. In the United States, it is expected to tip.
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The Departed	Jan 19 2014, 10:27:37 PM Post #37
Your friendly neighborhood truck Posts: 26,502 Group: Admin Member #4,238 Joined: Feb 11 2007 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain	in muricuh, we pay 15% and if its a place i go to frequently, i pay extra so they remember me and hook a brotha up down the road. it's the same with haircuts, i pay more and an treated better down the road and taken care of more as a result. sure, it's a you scratch my back and vice versa scenario, but everyone wins as a result. if i go to a restaurant recurringly and undertip, how good to you think the service i receive will be? unwritten rules of the trade, kiddies. know about 'em
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Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 10:29:57 PM Post #38
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	The Departed Jan 19 2014, 10:27:37 PM in muricuh, we pay 15% and if its a place i go to frequently, i pay extra so they remember me and hook a brotha up down the road. it's the same with haircuts, i pay more and an treated better down the road and taken care of more as a result. sure, it's a you scratch my back and vice versa scenario, but everyone wins as a result. if i go to a restaurant recurringly and undertip, how good to you think the service i receive will be? unwritten rules of the trade, kiddies. know about 'em This is true. You wouldn't believe the differences in people who tip poorly opposed to those that tip well.
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Bread	Jan 19 2014, 10:32:30 PM Post #39
MGSV is a bit shit Posts: 9,891 Group: Tokugawa Heavy Industries Member #9,903 Joined: Aug 19 2008 Playstation Network ID sliced-bread-no2	Inspector_Swag Jan 19 2014, 10:24:23 PM If it's different in another country, you guys should mention that. I have no idea where you guys are from. In the United States, it is expected to tip. To be fair, most of us have our locations on our profile. I checked to see if you were American before I made my reply
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Heisenberg	Jan 19 2014, 10:35:14 PM Post #40
MGSF Patriot Posts: 14,428 Group: Members Member #18,399 Joined: Apr 18 2013 Favourite Metal Gear Title? Metal Gear Solid Playstation Network ID Inspector_Swag	I don't check anyone's profile, and I don't know how it really works in other countries. For instance, I believe Canada's servers are paid minimum wage. Which makes sense, cause when the bus from there comes to a restaurant they tip every server like shit. Canada sucks for more than that though. Edited by Heisenberg, Jan 19 2014, 10:35:58 PM.
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