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Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers)
Topic Started: Apr 2 2014, 07:43:53 PM (29,422 Views)
Eagle
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Bladewolf
Jun 11 2014, 12:47:04 AM
LOL Skullface. He is just hype talk so far.
Maybe its because i just respect more warrior type villian characters.
Maybe, but you can't deny Skull Face is a sadistic bastard.
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Skull Face is awesome. As long as Kojima keeps him well, he could be one of the best/THE best MGS villain ever.
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Jun 11 2014, 01:25:08 AM
Skull Face is awesome. As long as Kojima keeps him well, he could be one of the best/THE best MGS villain ever.
Agreed. But going back to topic, I need my Chico. And some one please tell me how Quiet does those ninja jumps? I really believe mechanical feet.
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Jun 11 2014, 01:53:19 AM
Inspector_Swag
Jun 11 2014, 01:25:08 AM
Skull Face is awesome. As long as Kojima keeps him well, he could be one of the best/THE best MGS villain ever.
Agreed. But going back to topic, I need my Chico. And some one please tell me how Quiet does those ninja jumps? I really believe mechanical feet.
I don't think an explanation is really needed beyond "she's flexible" or whatever. Absurd and generally unexplained ninja jumps are everywhere in Japanese games and anime and so on. :P
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Eagle...
You must let Chico go.
If you love something you must let it go.

I don't want you turning on TPP for the first time.
Chico gets chopped up in the helicopter blades,
And you break your disk in half.


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Jun 11 2014, 03:35:25 AM
Eagle...
You must let Chico go.
If you love something you must let it go.

I don't want you turning on TPP for the first time.
Chico gets chopped up in the helicopter blades,
And you break your disk in half.
Don't you see? I can't...
No, but in all seriousness, that was just me being melodramatic. I seriously think Chico is alive in TPP and a major character. Maybe we just didn't see him in this trailer. I will let him go if I see him die in the game.

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I don't think an explanation is really needed beyond "she's flexible" or whatever. Absurd and generally unexplained ninja jumps are everywhere in Japanese games and anime and so on.

Yeah, but I assume that for a game that's aiming to be more realistic, there might be some explanation, specially since, you know, lost limbs is a theme. But I maybe be wrong, it's highly likely.
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Jun 11 2014, 12:47:04 AM
LOL Skullface. He is just hype talk so far.
Maybe its because i just respect more warrior type villian characters.
Skullface is pretty much the new Ocelot, only without the flare. Kojima's gotten lazy.
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Yea not really seeing the comparison.
Maybe more with Volgin..


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Volgin was an idiot. Skullface shares traits with Ocelot in that he's got a torture fetish and is a manipulator.
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Yeah but skullface has dat voice. sexayy
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This went from being a thread about Chico to being about Skull Face and other MGS sadists.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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Jun 11 2014, 04:54:29 AM
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I don't think an explanation is really needed beyond "she's flexible" or whatever. Absurd and generally unexplained ninja jumps are everywhere in Japanese games and anime and so on.

Kojima really needs to chill out with the Blair Witch camera thing, that Quiet action scene seems badass, a oldschool type of cutscene camera work would make that scene more awesome.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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CHICO IS DEAD
War has changed.
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Jun 12 2014, 09:05:34 PM
CHICO IS DEAD
WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE IS DEAD?!!!
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Yes Chico died at ground zeroes. Chica was born that day.
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I can't tell whether you honestly believe that or whether you're trolling and want to give me heart attack.
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mfw dante calls me a cunt
I'm like 95% joking
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I meant Flaccid
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Okay everyone, so I've read though all the comments made so far and some are against and some are still for supporting the Chico is Quiet theory. Everyone has good arguments but the one thing I've noticed is that I'm not seeing any sufficient evidence that proves Chico is not Quiet.

There seems to be a lot more evidence to suggest that Chico is Quiet and the one thing that a lot of you seem to provide as evidence that Chico is not Quiet is a statement made by Stefanie Joosten which was said on the KOJIMA STATION EPISODE 09 Q&A WITH STEFANIE JOOSTEN. She say's something along the lines of Quiet is definitely a female, while Chico is a male.

So let me tell you what I think and why I still side with the Chico is Quiet theory... even after what Stefanie Joosten said during the vlog.

Firstly, it does not bother me if Chico is or isn't Quiet. I'm not homophobic and I respect peoples life choices so having a transgender character in a game does not offend me and it should not offend anyone really!

If Chico is Quiet why would you be offended? I suppose some straight, homophobic people might feel offended because Quiet actually looks like an attractive female but common, your all adults right? A man or woman can appreciate good looks of the same sex without being gay and just for clarification, I am a straight man myself.

Either way, let's not discriminate shall we? This game is for adults not children so a lot of mature things are being addressed in both Ground Zeroes and the Phantom Pain so lets get started!

It's not like Hideo Kojima to kill a main character off screen... I follow Metal Gear Solid like a religion. I love all the twists and turns that Kojima makes. Kojima certainly respects the gay community otherwise why would he have so many gay characters in Metal Gear Solid games? Seriously, there are so many characters that are gay or bisexual such as Colonel Volgin and Major Raikov, Vamp and also Scott Dolph aka Fortune's father is bisexual. Is it so hard to believe that Chico could also be transgender? It's certainly new for Kojima but in reality he does this sort of thing all the time in the Metal Gear Solid series.

Plus the media seems to love stirring trouble... if Quiet does turn out to be Chico I'm sure the media will have a frenzy. I hate that the media try to sugar coat what goes on in the world we live in. A lot of bad things happen during war... people get murdered, raped and tortured. Kojima did say he's going to be pushing the medium in his story telling. "I'm going to be targeting a lot of taboos, a lot of mature themes that really are quite risky," This only makes me respect Kojima more.

This game is an 18 rated game.. Kojima should be allowed to push the medium if he wants. Kid's should not be playing this game, its up to the parents to shield there child from mature games and films. My mother taught me right from wrong when I was about Eli's age in The Phantom Pain.. Eli I believe is about 12-13 years old. My mother went through a traumatic experience herself when she was young which is why she brought me up to respect others especially woman.

The media should not interfere with a directors story telling, people should learn from these horrific things, if history is teaches us anything then it teaches us to learn from our mistakes that we make as a species. There are some sick people in this world unfortunately, lets not hide the truth, or sugar coat it.. bad things happen.

I hightly doubt Chico died in Ground Zeroes... I'm almost certain that Chico survived the crash because they won't get rid of a character off screen its not Kojima's style.

Actors and actresses are sometimes paid to lie or mislead... Stefanie Joosten says that Chico is male whilst Quiet is female but last time I checked a transgender male or female will refer to themselves as the gender they changed into.

For clarification on this I've even asked a transgender online about this I'm not going to name this person but she confirmed to me that she refers to herself as female even though she was born male. Stefanie Joosten is very cleaver with the words that she use's and will not deny the theory completely. If she'd have said Quiet was born female and Chico was born male then that would be a different story.
Therefore if Quiet used to be male... Quiet would still refer to herself as female after a sex change.

Below are some spoilers from Ground Zeroes and possibly the Phantom Pain that you might not want to read but further provide evidence that Quiet could be Chico.

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I understand people want to dismiss this theory, but I don't believe in coincidence because too many things are adding up.

Lastly, there are now two trailers specifically for Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain and Chico has not been spotted in the E3 2014 trailer. The only footage of him where Chico has been spotted are only the shots of him taken from Ground Zeroes not The Phantom Pain, in the first trailer. Chico would be a older now in 1984 and about the same age as Quiet, yet another coincidence. If chico really is Quiet it would explain all the hints that have been given by Kojima himself and the hints within Ground Zeroes.

I really do love these sorts of twists especially when people are in denial so badly that they ignore all the evidence. It's mind boggling it really is. Even Kojima himself has hinted stuff such as tweeting a picture of a sausage saying "Farewell sausage",

Kojima also tweeted about Quiets exposed appearance... "But once you recognize the secret reason for her exposure, you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds."

One more thing before I leave... Chico can't be Psycho Mantis and Psycho Mantis can't be Skull Face, Psycho Mantis has already been spotted in one of the Phantom Pain trailers as a young kid with ginger hair wearing a gas mask during a couple of shots.. One where he fly's through the ceiling like in MGS1 and one close up of him looking towards the camera, so I've no idea why people are coming up with that theory. I've heard other rediculas theory's like Skull face is Ocelot.. which is not true. I believe Skull face is merely just a new character, Kojima does make new characters in every Metal Gear Solid game to date.

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Volgin is also spotted in the trailer but I don't think he survived MGS3... this is more likely a mental projection coming from young Psycho Mantis, after all he can read your thoughts and if he read's Big Boss's I'm sure he could create some scary illusions like Volgin amidst some fire.
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Take a look at this image:
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Watch this video again if you havent already:
http://youtu.be/urlWBg4BkHo
If you want more then watch this video made YongYea which is an analysis of the Quiet is Chico theory.
http://youtu.be/m9DtyqOX2L8

I don't know about you but I don't believe in coincidence. 
Edited by Outer_Heaven87, Jun 13 2014, 06:46:42 AM.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Chico is not Quiet period, only a braindead moron would believe that theory.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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