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Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers)
Topic Started: Apr 2 2014, 07:43:53 PM (29,421 Views)
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/\ I'm sorry Outer_Heaven, did you just type all of that just to address the Chico = Quiet theory, you put all that effort in to digesting the subject matter, and you still managed to come to the conclusion that the theory is true? I'm speechless.

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For clarification on this I've even asked a transgender online about this


Wow.

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In Ground Zeroes he cries like a girl,


Amazing.

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If you try to shoot Chico in the crotch in Ground Zeroes it does not do anything but it hurts or even kills other enemies in the game..I find that quite a funny coincidence?

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Last time I checked Snipers use rifles and so do hunters.


Incredible.

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Even Kojima himself has hinted stuff such as tweeting a picture of a sausage saying "Farewell sausage",


You sir are either a brilliant and rather tasteful troll, or you need to be very very angry with your public school system.

Either way this should win 'post of the year' if there is such an award on this forum.
Edited by abstract-one, Jun 13 2014, 07:04:21 AM.
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people still believe in this shit?
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Just let him live in a false reality fellas... We know what is correct and thats alllll that matters.
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Have to admit Outer Heaven, you put a lot of effort into your post. Only time will tell if this is true or not.
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Jun 13 2014, 06:24:00 AM
Okay everyone, so I've read though all the comments made so far and some are against and some are still for supporting the Chico is Quiet theory. Everyone has good arguments but the one thing I've noticed is that I'm not seeing any sufficient evidence that proves Chico is not Quiet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvIibebop1U

Okay now? Are the words coming out of Stephanie herself enough for you?
Edited by James Jimmy, Jun 13 2014, 01:12:15 PM.
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Jun 13 2014, 01:05:01 PM
Have to admit Outer Heaven, you put a lot of effort into your post. Only time will tell if this is true or not.
Wow a lot of hate in the other comments.. oh well I won't dignify them with a response..

Thanks Eagle... I don't mind if it turns out to be true or false.... I'm gonna enjoy the game either way and that's the main thing.. I wasn't trying to come across as a troll I wanted to put out my own perspective on the theory and why I think its still plausible even after the theory was shot down by Stefanie Joosten.

Hey, if the theory becomes true at least I get to laugh and smirk... but if the theory turns out to be false I will be excited to find out who she really is!

Quiet is supposedly in her early 20's so she could be a new character... I can't think who else she would be besides Chico... Chico's has the only age that fits so perfectly, he's about 12-13 in Ground Zeroes and about 20-21 in TPP.

I can understand why Huey would be tortured in TPP... but not Quiet. Huey and Chico's actions and words caused the downfall of MSF and the destruction of Motherbase. Quiet was not in any previous Metal Gear game so why would she be tortured too?

Notice that both Huey Emmerich and Quiet are both being tortured in TPP trailer? If Chico is Quiet that would certainly explain why she is also getting tortured along side Huey... but of course Quiet could be being Tortured for some other reason we have yet to find out.

Either way it's certainly coincidental as to why Kojima would edit both torture scenes into the Red Band trailer... Quiet must have done something really bad and against MSF or Diamond Dogs to warrant torture from Big Boss and Ocelot!

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Does anyone else find it very curious as to why there has been no mention of Chico in The Phantom Pain yet?
There have been other theory's regarding Chico though.. but they make a lot less sense that the Quiet = Chico theory.

Ishmael can't be Chico because he has the same voice as Snake... Chico has a very high pitch feminine voice and very feminine features even though he's only 13. I'm 27 and I look younger and some people say I have a feminine face. Posted Image

Ishmael could be in Snakes imagination, after all he just woke up from a coma and has helicopter shrapnel stuck in his head.
Ishmael could even be Hideo Kojima? I know that sounds crazy but what if he's Snakes spiritual guide?

I watched an interview with Kojima at E3 2014 at IGN.com and he suggests that Snake may be confused and perhaps lost some memory that slowly comes back.
http://youtu.be/v1B_A_HBD5Q

Ishmael could well be the medic in the helicopter in GZ.. apparently if you slow his voice down in GZ it is actually Kiefer Sutherland's voice merely sped up, but to be honest sometimes major actors will play multiple roles with no hidden agenda whatsoever.

I hope we see the return of Psycho Mantis, Volgin, Eva in some fashion in the Phantom Pain..
I hope Eli is Liquid Snake so far it's the only theory that makes perfect sense to me.

If we get a young Liquid perhaps we might get a glimpse at a young Solid Snake?
Only Liquid and Solid Snake were born together as twins, Solidus was not birthed by Big Mama/Eva as far as I'm aware, correct me if I'm wrong? I do know that Solidus was for all intense purposes an exact clone of Big Boss and looked around the same age as Big Boss during MGS2.

Eli can't be Raiden... Raiden would be too young, and the same goes for Quiet being Sniper Wolf.. Sniper Wolf would only be about 8 years old in TPP.

Where on earth are Cécile and Dr Strangelove? I wonder if they will make an appearance too?
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Yeah, I'm not reading that.

Where's the tl;dr version?
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Damn you Kojima, THAT's what people have to discuss in the absense of real news (like freaking gameplay demo) >< Have mercy!
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Of course Stephanie Joosten would address the Chico/Quiet theory. What do you think Kojima would instruct her to do once he discovered that one of his ridiculous twists was found out before the game was even close to being released.

you guys just don't want to believe it because you think Quiet is hot.

still 95% joking, 5 % of me thinks theres some credibility to the evidence behind the theory.
Edited by Venture, Jun 13 2014, 11:02:29 PM.
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I'm almost certain that Chico survived the crash because they won't get rid of a character off screen its not Kojima's style.


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I'm thinking they probably thought Quiet had to do with Miller being captured, and if she is actually mute, she wouldn't be able to try to convince them otherwise, thus the torture.
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I meant Flaccid
Nah i honestly believe he is dead
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I meant Flaccid
Nah i honestly believe he is dead
You made it seem as if it was confirmed he was dead.
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Jun 13 2014, 06:26:42 AM
Chico is not Quiet period, only a braindead moron would believe that theory.
Or someone who can't accept the fact that its false and debunked
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People still think the theory could be true? Beating a dead horse as usual.
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I'll just wait and see on the transsexual theory but Stephanie Joosten would deny it even if it were true.
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Lmao; now I'm not one for the whole chico=quiet theory, I really want Chico to be gone and never think of him again. But is there any actual proof that the theory absolutely couldn't be true, other than "No I think that's stupid"?
I don't think Stephanie saying Chico is a guy and Quiet is a female isn't even an actual denial. If Chico was to get a sex change to become Quiet, what she says is still true. And like Eliab said,
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Of course Stephanie Joosten would address the Chico/Quiet theory. What do you think Kojima would instruct her to do once he discovered that one of his ridiculous twists was found out before the game was even close to being released.


Honestly looking for real reason it could be denied; I think it's stupid aswell and don't see what it could add to the story of Big Boss' downfall - but it seems so stupidly plausible Kojima might've actually done it, especially with the things he said about Quiet on twitter or w/e.
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Lmao; now I'm not one for the whole chico=quiet theory, I really want Chico to be gone and never think of him again. But is there any actual proof that the theory absolutely couldn't be true, other than "No I think that's stupid"?
I don't think Stephanie saying Chico is a guy and Quiet is a female isn't even an actual denial. If Chico was to get a sex change to become Quiet, what she says is still true. And like Eliab said,
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Of course Stephanie Joosten would address the Chico/Quiet theory. What do you think Kojima would instruct her to do once he discovered that one of his ridiculous twists was found out before the game was even close to being released.


Honestly looking for real reason it could be denied; I think it's stupid aswell and don't see what it could add to the story of Big Boss' downfall - but it seems so stupidly plausible Kojima might've actually done it, especially with the things he said about Quiet on twitter or w/e.
Thank you. Guys, they do make a good point. I mean yes, Stefanie denied the Chico-Quiet theory, and I myself believe it is really unlikely to happen, almost impossible. But suppose for a moment that the theory was true. Do you really think Stefanie would just out and say "Yeah, Chico is Quiet. I'm surprised people found out the twist so quickly."
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Jun 15 2014, 05:09:25 PM
Lmao; now I'm not one for the whole chico=quiet theory, I really want Chico to be gone and never think of him again. But is there any actual proof that the theory absolutely couldn't be true, other than "No I think that's stupid"?
I don't think Stephanie saying Chico is a guy and Quiet is a female isn't even an actual denial. If Chico was to get a sex change to become Quiet, what she says is still true. And like Eliab said,
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Of course Stephanie Joosten would address the Chico/Quiet theory. What do you think Kojima would instruct her to do once he discovered that one of his ridiculous twists was found out before the game was even close to being released.


Honestly looking for real reason it could be denied; I think it's stupid aswell and don't see what it could add to the story of Big Boss' downfall - but it seems so stupidly plausible Kojima might've actually done it, especially with the things he said about Quiet on twitter or w/e.
Thank you. Guys, they do make a good point. I mean yes, Stefanie denied the Chico-Quiet theory, and I myself believe it is really unlikely to happen, almost impossible. But suppose for a moment that the theory was true. Do you really think Stefanie would just out and say "Yeah, Chico is Quiet. I'm surprised people found out the twist so quickly."
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Still doesn't explain how Chico developed some kind of vanishing mascara super power. I really hope Quiet is a new character. Please Kojima. It's like everyone saying she is related to The End or Sniper Wolf, just because she is a sniper. I'm so tired of every single character having to be related. It makes the MGS universe seem so small.
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