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Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers)
Topic Started: Apr 2 2014, 07:43:53 PM (29,418 Views)
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Jun 26 2014, 11:54:20 PM
Ya I mean at this point, we all know Chico is quiet. Some are just in denial. Why do you think that quiets hairstyle covers her left eyebrow? Cuz heshe got a huge ass scar there and she already blew all her money on breast implants and getting rid of the headphone jack that goes into her heart.

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Such denial in this one.

Well, the game isn't out yet, so I don't see the harm.
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If it was a valid theory that's hasn't been debunked by an official Konami broadcast. Then maybe... If it was a legit theory it wouldn't have even been brought up on the KojiPro.


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Guys are we still talking about this? It's already been confirmed that Chico is Colonel Campbell
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I thought that I saw Chico´s body covering Big Boss from most of the fire blast, and it would be cool if Chico survived the explosion severely scarred by that and ended up frustrated with his sister, who´s more worried about a revolution rather than supporting him in his fight to punish the giants (Zero, Skull-Face, Big Boss) whose fight had a collateral damage in his life, and in the 9 years Big Boss was in coma, he joined some army and started his soldier career for real, becoming very talented and planning to deliver justice to Skull-Face and The Patriots alongside Big Boss while realizing that the man Paz have thrown herself into the ocean for is as bad and twisted as any of them, becoming his enemy and his exact opposite. Chico is still good, and Big Boss, his spiritual mentor, the man who made him become a soldier was a demon. Chico could be seen in the game as uncomplete version of Solid Snake, the man who took down Big Boss, because he lacks the genes, memes, the scene, the skills, and the physics (remember, Chico is a malnourished dwarf for his age) to defeat Big Boss.
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Jun 27 2014, 04:31:54 AM
I thought that I saw Chico´s body covering Big Boss from most of the fire blast, and it would be cool if Chico survived the explosion severely scarred by that and ended up frustrated with his sister, who´s more worried about a revolution rather than supporting him in his fight to punish the giants (Zero, Skull-Face, Big Boss) whose fight had a collateral damage in his life, and in the 9 years Big Boss was in coma, he joined some army and started his soldier career for real, becoming very talented and planning to deliver justice to Skull-Face and The Patriots alongside Big Boss while realizing that the man Paz have thrown herself into the ocean for is as bad and twisted as any of them, becoming his enemy and his exact opposite. Chico is still good, and Big Boss, his spiritual mentor, the man who made him become a soldier was a demon. Chico could be seen in the game as uncomplete version of Solid Snake, the man who took down Big Boss, because he lacks the genes, memes, the scene, the skills, and the physics (remember, Chico is a malnourished dwarf for his age) to defeat Big Boss.
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Still, even though I would love for this to happen, I'm 90% sure it won't. But I can't see Chico disagreeing with Amanda over that the revolution. I think he would want the revolution to go on, but would cut off all connections with his sister because of her wanting for him to die just because he was a sudden burden for her.

PS: When did Chico cover Big Boss from the fire blast? Do you mean the medic?
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I don´t think Amanda really wanted Chico to die. She was just on to something much important and he got himself into trouble beyond her powers as a Sadinista commander, so she just didn´t mind it much and let his fate be sealed by either being saved by Big Boss and getting reabsorved into MSF, or dying there.
IDK, it all happened so fast, I gonna see it again at youtube, but I´m almost sure that someone got in front of Big Boss to see Paz falling and covered his body when she exploded.
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Jun 27 2014, 05:33:05 AM
I don´t think Amanda really wanted Chico to die.
No, she didn't want him to die but in at least three occasions she was ready for the worst (doesn't care if he dies) - when Chico was captured by kidnapper, she was willing to kill him herself, knowing that she won't survive the fall as long as he doesn't talk. Asking Big Boss to kill him if he talked. And optional converastion in GZ, saying that she is ready for the worst - meaning he was already dead for her.

And that was medic stepping in front of Big Boss, not Chico.
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Jun 27 2014, 05:39:44 AM
And optional converastion in GZ, saying that she is ready for the worst - meaning he was already dead for her.

And that was medic stepping in front of Big Boss, not Chico.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the moment she found out Chico went to rescue Paz, a traitor, was the moment he was dead to her. And yes, that was the Medic who took the full blast for Big Boss.
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And optional converastion in GZ, saying that she is ready for the worst - meaning he was already dead for her.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the moment she found out Chico went to rescue Paz, a traitor, was the moment he was dead to her.
Not entirely. If you look at the way Amanda talks about Chico in Peace Walker, you can notice that at some point he treats him like his little brother and some cases he treats him like a fellow soldier (my previous post) - the kind of struggle that made her interesting character, but in the end Amanda (at least says) that he starts treating him like a soldier to Big Boss - meaning she already treats him as dead man. Ground Zeroes only confirms that he is dead to her.
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Gonna mention more than just Chico and Quiet in this post...

I know I'm probably one of few that still believe that Chico is Quiet but I still find it very curious because of how Stefanie Joosten is very cleaver with the words she uses if the translation is to be believed when shes says that "Quiet is definitely a female, while Chico is a male." is still not entirely a confirmation that proves the theory is dead.

A transgender woman would still refer to herself as female where as a transgender male would refer to himself as male because they were changed into the opposite sex for a reason. If Chico does become Quiet, Quiet is now female not male.

It's also curious as why we have seen no appearance or mention of Chico in The Phantom Pain and why we see both Huey Emmerich and Quiet being tortured within the trailer in an almost poetic similar way that compliment each other.. Surely Quiet and Huey are being tortured because of the down fall of MSF and the home base? Last time I checked this game was all about revenge of things that have happened to them previously.

Quiet does have similar abilities to The End, both snipers that have that photosynthetic traits.. and I find it very strange that Chico does have a very familiar looking parent that looks very much like the End.
There are so many bits of compelling evidence that all point to Chico being Quiet.

So far The Phantom Pain seems very much a sausage fest at this point and the only supposedly female character seen so far is Quiet. Paz is already dead but I hope we see an appearance of Grey Fox and possibly a young Naomi Hunter and maybe the return of Chicos sister Amanda, Cicile and Dr Strangelove.

The theme of child soldiers is very present in the trailers perhaps we might see a young Drebin too?..
A young Psycho mantis certainly seems likely... and I have a feeling that Skull Face is the father of Psycho Mantis because Psycho Mantis did burn down his entire village as a kid and also seemingly burns his family alive. Skull Face is very burnt and maybe after the incident he's exploiting his telekinetic gifted sons abilities against Diamond Dogs and Cipher.

Watch this video... both these transsexual teenagers refer to themselves as the gender they became not what the were.



It's Kojima for god sake, it's crazy enough to do something like this in his video games.. and a lot of film directors are applauding him for pushing the medium even further than he has done before.. Kojima did state that he's gonna be treading on a lot of taboos with MGSV.

“I’m going to be treading a lot of taboos, and a lot of mature themes that really are quite risky."

“Honestly, I’m not even sure if I’ll be able to release the game. Even if I did release the game, maybe it wouldn't sell because it’s all too much. But as a creator I want to take that risk. As a producer it’s my job to try and sell the game, but I’m approaching this project from the point of view as a creator. I’m prioritising creativity over sales.”

If Stefanie Joosten said that Chico is male and Quiet is born female... then that would be a completely different story, then I would say this theory is debunked, whether the theory is true or not it won't bother me. I will still enjoy playing this kick ass game.
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Jun 29 2014, 06:56:08 PM
Gonna mention more than just Chico and Quiet in this post...

I know I'm probably one of few that still believe that Chico is Quiet but I still find it very curious because of how Stefanie Joosten is very cleaver with the words she uses if the translation is to be believed when shes says that "Quiet is definitely a female, while Chico is a male." is still not entirely a confirmation that proves the theory is dead.

A transgender woman would still refer to herself as female where as a transgender male would refer to himself as male because they were changed into the opposite sex for a reason. If Chico does become Quiet, Quiet is now female not male.

It's also curious as why we have seen no appearance or mention of Chico in The Phantom Pain and why we see both Huey Emmerich and Quiet being tortured within the trailer in an almost poetic similar way that compliment each other.. Surely Quiet and Huey are being tortured because of the down fall of MSF and the home base? Last time I checked this game was all about revenge of things that have happened to them previously.

Quiet does have similar abilities to The End, both snipers that have that photosynthetic traits.. and I find it very strange that Chico does have a very familiar looking parent that looks very much like the End.
There are so many bits of compelling evidence that all point to Chico being Quiet.

So far The Phantom Pain seems very much a sausage fest at this point and the only supposedly female character seen so far is Quiet. Paz is already dead but I hope we see an appearance of Grey Fox and possibly a young Naomi Hunter and maybe the return of Chicos sister Amanda, Cicile and Dr Strangelove.

The theme of child soldiers is very present in the trailers perhaps we might see a young Drebin too?..
A young Psycho mantis certainly seems likely... and I have a feeling that Skull Face is the father of Psycho Mantis because Psycho Mantis did burn down his entire village as a kid and also seemingly burns his family alive. Skull Face is very burnt and maybe after the incident he's exploiting his telekinetic gifted sons abilities against Diamond Dogs and Cipher.

Watch this video... both these transsexual teenagers refer to themselves as the gender they became not what the were.



It's Kojima for god sake, it's crazy enough to do something like this in his video games.. and a lot of film directors are applauding him for pushing the medium even further than he has done before.. Kojima did state that he's gonna be treading on a lot of taboos with MGSV.

“I’m going to be treading a lot of taboos, and a lot of mature themes that really are quite risky."

“Honestly, I’m not even sure if I’ll be able to release the game. Even if I did release the game, maybe it wouldn't sell because it’s all too much. But as a creator I want to take that risk. As a producer it’s my job to try and sell the game, but I’m approaching this project from the point of view as a creator. I’m prioritising creativity over sales.”

If Stefanie Joosten said that Chico is male and Quiet is born female... then that would be a completely different story, then I would say this theory is debunked, whether the theory is true or not it won't bother me. I will still enjoy playing this kick ass game.
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It's Kojima for god sake, it's crazy enough to do something like this in his video games


When did this become the ultimate justification for anything can go in a MGS game? Skull Face can be Ocelot, Quiet can be Chico, Snake isn't Snake...lordy.



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Those kinds of notions are why MGS fans suck. They want numerous, useless characters brought back for fan-service (MGS4). They also think every single new character is related to a former individual. Why can't Quiet just be Quiet and Skull Face be Skull Face?
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Jun 29 2014, 10:07:36 PM
Why can't Quiet just be Quiet and Skull Face be Skull Face?
This, SO MUCH OF THIS.
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Go read all the locked threads of Chico = Quiet.
Stay on topic here.


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I think it's best if we stop talking about Chico-Quiet until the game comes out.

On a separate note, does anyone think there's the possibility that they haven't shown Chico yet because his character might be TOO important to the plot and might spoil something major to the game?
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Jun 29 2014, 11:10:35 PM
I think it's best if we stop talking about Chico-Quiet until the game comes out.

On a separate note, does anyone think there's the possibility that they haven't shown Chico yet because he's character might be TOO important to the plot and might spoil something major to the game?
Or because he is dead :P
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I think it's best if we stop talking about Chico-Quiet until the game comes out.

On a separate note, does anyone think there's the possibility that they haven't shown Chico yet because he's character might be TOO important to the plot and might spoil something major to the game?
Or because he is dead :P
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