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| Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers) | |
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| LibertySon500 | Jul 7 2014, 10:58:03 PM Post #341 |
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but then again are we sure eli is liquid, i mean it most likely is but what if kojima is playing a trick on us to make us think its liquid but its another character |
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| Venture | Jul 7 2014, 10:59:07 PM Post #342 |
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Chico in Ground Zeroes does not seem to have the scar he has on his right cheek like in PW. Although, I am a bit more interested in the wound above Chico's left eye ![]() and Quiet's strategic hairstyle covering that spot
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| LibertySon500 | Jul 7 2014, 11:02:04 PM Post #343 |
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you think quiet will be playable? |
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| black king | Jul 7 2014, 11:45:48 PM Post #344 |
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I used my phone to zoom in. It's barely there but I made it out. I remember we had a thread for his scar. I'll link later. I thought I saw something on Quiet which would have made me crap myself. But it was her ear not a scar. |
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| RighteousRebel | Jul 8 2014, 12:52:57 AM Post #345 |
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So, two things come to mind after reading this thread. 1) There is no hard evidence denying the possibility that Chico is Quiet. The largest part of this evidence is the simple fact that we never see Chico in any of the trailers. But as some have mentioned, Chico's motivation for revenge fits along with TPP's overall theme so perfectly, that it would indeed be a wasted opportunity. This leads me to... 2) I like the idea that Eagle suggested that maybe Chico plays TOO important a role in TPP to be revealed in any trailer. Personally, I think Chico is a no good snitch who can't be trusted (though, you still can't blame him because he is so young). I could EASILY see Chico going rogue during BB's coma (as he did to try and save Paz). It really is not like Kojima to kill a character off screen. I think we might not even hear about Chico until some time deep into TPP, and he is revealed as a "villain" or even someone we had already been introduced to, but not as Chico (and not Quiet either, ). I put "villain" in quotes because I think a lot of so called protagonists and antagonists, as well as the choices they make, will be extremely morally ambiguous. Like, playing as BB, the player will feel wretched performing some gruesome things that BB does, but at the same time as some sort of powerful reason for doing so. |
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| Heisenberg | Jul 8 2014, 01:28:21 AM Post #346 |
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I think the notion that we become the villain is compelling, considering the antagonists we face may actually be good people. |
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| RighteousRebel | Jul 8 2014, 01:50:59 AM Post #347 |
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No doubt, I agree completely with you. I'm just trying to say that it will hard to categorize each character as a villain or not. More than likely everyone will be villainous, just against one another lol. |
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| LibertySon500 | Jul 8 2014, 01:54:10 AM Post #348 |
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so the metal gear in the end of the trailer is that tx-55? |
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| Outer_Heaven87 | Jul 8 2014, 01:57:29 AM Post #349 |
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Seems that there are still believers in the Chico is Quiet theory even after it was apprently debunked.. This is an interesting podcast that came out recently on JULY 6, 2014 so have a listen.. it might just change your mind. http://www.codecmoments.com/metal-gear-solid-v-phantom-pain-thought-shower/ Let me know what you think! |
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| Eagle | Jul 8 2014, 04:05:42 AM Post #350 |
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Well, no, but if she did, it would be too obvious. Maybe they removed it until later in-game development to include it. |
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| Jim Houseman | Jul 8 2014, 04:07:16 AM Post #351 |
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Any scars Chico had could have been grafted over with the excess sausage skin during surgery. |
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| RighteousRebel | Jul 8 2014, 04:16:14 AM Post #352 |
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Interesting listen. They did basically explain why the Chico = Quiet theory could happen, though, and that they would love to see it happen. I'm not quite sure what you're alluding to... |
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| Eagle | Jul 8 2014, 04:20:53 AM Post #353 |
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I like this idea. And even if Chico isn't Quiet, I, for some reason, have the strong feeling that Chico may actually play a good counterpart to an increasingly evil Big Boss. Like he is becoming the man Big Boss was before his fall from grace. |
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| Pinochet89 | Jul 8 2014, 04:59:24 AM Post #354 |
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Really? Kaz, Huey, Paramedic and Sigint/Donald Anderson were killed off-screen. Why he (Kojima) can't do the same thing with Chico? |
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| AbudJasemAlBaldawi | Jul 8 2014, 05:01:01 AM Post #355 |
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What if Chico becomes Skull Face's adopted son, Dick Face. I like that. I do remember Chico looking up to Big Boss as a role model, Chico could actually become a man like pre-TPP Big Boss, while Big Boss himself starts turning into a "demon." Edited by AbudJasemAlBaldawi, Jul 8 2014, 05:05:56 AM.
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| Venture | Jul 8 2014, 05:02:11 AM Post #356 |
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none of them were central characters with developed storylines when they were killed. Edited by Venture, Jul 8 2014, 05:02:46 AM.
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| Eagle | Jul 8 2014, 05:37:32 AM Post #357 |
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They died before Kojima even thought of making them major characters in the Metal Gear series, it's not the same. |
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| Eagle | Jul 8 2014, 06:19:25 AM Post #358 |
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Chico does have the scar. You just can't see it because of the lighting. If you pause when the lightning strikes or when they're inside the chopper taking the bomb out of Paz, you can see it. Also, would someone please merge this with the Chico-Character Thread in the GZ spoiler section. Edited by Eagle, Jul 8 2014, 07:58:52 AM.
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| Outer_Heaven87 | Jul 8 2014, 12:01:31 PM Post #359 |
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I wasn't alluding to anything I'm just surprised that some people still believe this theory exists even people that are in the game industry in some form and its more surprising that they actually want it to happen. Perhaps they feel with all the tapes in Ground Zeroes and evidence pointing to Chico's possible relationship to the end that they don't want all that seemingly plausible evidence to go to waste. I think this theory has a lot of leverage to it, only time will tell if it comes to fruition. |
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| Outer_Heaven87 | Jul 8 2014, 12:06:00 PM Post #360 |
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Not many people have played Peace Walker and those that have only played Ground Zeroes might feel a bit annoyed and cheated by how a character they've just met gets killed off screen after they just spent money buying a game that you spend a 20-30 minutes in the main campaign trying to rescue. All those tapes would go to waste, why would you want to listen to them all if they are going to just kill a main character off like that.. I doubt Kojima would put so much effort into what happens to Chico and Paz during Ground Zeroes without having some outcome to it all. I would feel cheated if they just killed Chico off... its more likely he survived as did most in the helicopter crash... perhaps the pilots die but not the passengers in the back. People keep saying Kojima has killed people off screen before but when I look back... those characters they mention were never main characters at the time the game's came out.. Kaz might have died off screen by the hands of Liquid but in spirit Kaz was still around and played a role in MGS1 anyway even if Liquid was his doppelganger. Kaz is a good character that wasn't really fleshed out until Peace Walker and I know he appears in other games too but not many people have finished the original Metal Gear games. When Paramedic and Sigint aka Donald Anderson were killed off-screen, that was during MGS1... way before these characters got fleshed out in the prequel which was written many years later... its nice to know their fate now I guess but I doubt Kojima planned how this story would play out in MGS3 before making MGS1.. The story of MGS saga seems to have evolved and become more complex over time as Kojima has made more sequels. MGS2 even though it was not the best game in the series, it still marked as a turning point in the franchize that introduced us to the patriots and thus began this original hidden end game that was always being played out that has now become the main hidden bad in all the games thus far. No one cared who Paramedic was in MGS1 when she died all we knew back that was that she created the Cyborg Ninja that was until MGS3 got released that her origin was explained, same goes for Sigint even though we did see the real Sigint die and his death was explained in detail... I don't really consider that a true off screen death because we know he was tortured to death by Ocelot during a flash back scene in MGS1 when he was later known as Donnald Anderson before Decoy Octopus took his form. Decoy Octopus was also not killed off screen because he gets killed by Fox Die in disguise as someone else, I think Decoy Octopus is an interesting character that I wish was fleshed out more because I feel that his origin would be cool. I don't think the same rule could be applied to Chico's fate because his character has already been fleshed out in Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes and it would be a waste of all those tapes and background so I doubt they will kill him off screen plus the situation is different to what happens to the characters in MGS1 that we didn't really know when the first MGS game came out. Chico is most likely alive and well probably regrets his actions during Ground Zeroes, he was just a kid.. kids aren't going to be as strong to withstand torture like a grown up adult trained solider. His actions in GZ are what cause Chico from turning from just a kid into a Child Soldier. Those events must have forced Chico to grow up very fast, perhaps too fast, Chico has had a hard life... who knows what impact this would have on him in adult life so perhaps he would be happier to start over as someone new such as being a woman with a new identity. Chico even says that in GZ that he wishes he could start over. Edited by Outer_Heaven87, Jul 8 2014, 12:53:04 PM.
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