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Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers)
Topic Started: Apr 2 2014, 07:43:53 PM (29,412 Views)
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Jul 10 2014, 05:03:04 PM
@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could think the same way. Chico is a child and should be forgiven. But I doubt that will be the case. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
Edited by Eagle, Jul 10 2014, 05:13:14 PM.
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@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could say the same. But I doubt that. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
I think that was Paz he was referring to. Anyway, there's no reason to believe he genuinely hates Chico. He knew Chico talked, yet he only snapped at Paz. Why? Because she deviously infiltrated MSF, made friends with everyone and subsequently attempted to destroy the place. Especially being shook up by the fact that his life work -along with approx. 300 of his warbuddies- had just been destroyed, it makes sense for him to be emotionally unstable and abnormally angry. Then there was Paz, the only one he could out his anger/anxiety to.
Besides, about Kaz saying what you said he did, that also says nothing about his feelings about Chico's acts. Amanda was gonna shoot Chico in PW, for being kidnapped, yet she loves him more than anything. If you can't save him, at least put him out of his misery.
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Okay, so I saw this other theory at Gamefaq that may support the "Chico is dead" possibility, but may also open a new theory-that Chico is with Huey, or that at least Huey knows where Chico is. So first of all, it stems from these pictures:
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The cassette player that Kaz has the E3 2013 trailer when torturing Huey is the same one Chico used in 1975, and not a newer model made in 1984. Other items like the iDroid were updated in the 9 year timeskip. It's most likely the same cassette player.

Now this supports the Chico is dead possibility because, well, Kaz has the cassette player and the most likely explanation is that they're playing the part that incriminates Huey when Skull Face says that "the scientist was their way in." Although it could also simply be that Chico is in Diamond Dogs and he gave the cassette to Kaz. However, the cassette was with Chico at the end of GZ, and since the cassette is undamaged, then Chico could/should also most likely be.

Now another thing I believe may happen is that after the fall of MSF, with nowhere to go, since Snake was in a coma and Kaz most likely wouldn't accept him after betraying them, Chico somehow ends up finding Huey, who takes Chico in. Huey, who may not have meant to betray MB and didn't know about the Trojan Horse Operation, or betrayed MB in order to save Strangelove, takes pity on Chico and sympathizes with him, since they're now both traitors of MSF who chose to save the ones they love. Over the next years, Huey comes up with a way of allowing Chico to walk again and the two start doing their own investigation on Cipher/XOF, eventually learning that Cipher is planning something in Africa. But at some point Huey is captured by Diamond Dogs and interrogated, and they even find Chico's cassette player with Huey, and interrogating him in order to learn of Chico's whereabouts in 1984, since Chico is the other traitor. Another thing that caught my attention is that the room where Huey is being tortured:
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is the same room where we see him later on in the trailer and he looks quite happy, looking at the sky: Posted Image
So, I'm trying to imagine what happened for there to be such a tonal shift.

I eagerly await for you guys to call my theory stupid and point out the holes in it.
Edited by Eagle, Jul 14 2014, 06:39:23 PM.
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@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could say the same. But I doubt that. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
I think that was Paz he was referring to. Anyway, there's no reason to believe he genuinely hates Chico. He knew Chico talked, yet he only snapped at Paz. Why? Because she deviously infiltrated MSF, made friends with everyone and subsequently attempted to destroy the place. Especially being shook up by the fact that his life work -along with approx. 300 of his warbuddies- had just been destroyed, it makes sense for him to be emotionally unstable and abnormally angry. Then there was Paz, the only one he could out his anger/anxiety to.
Besides, about Kaz saying what you said he did, that also says nothing about his feelings about Chico's acts. Amanda was gonna shoot Chico in PW, for being kidnapped, yet she loves him more than anything. If you can't save him, at least put him out of his misery.
That could be true, I suppose. But Kaz did only want to save Chico for pragmatic reasons, as shown in the tapes. Big Boss even reprimands Kaz for it. Kaz could still care about Chico, but I doubt that is the case I after the destruction of MSF, he simply snapped at Paz because she was the one who had intel on Cipher so that they could retaliate.
Edited by Eagle, Aug 11 2014, 10:42:15 PM.
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That would actually be amazing. Chico is a skilled fighter by '84, he's personally trained by Big Boss. He sees BB go bad and rebels against him. It'd be extra awesome if he's a part of DD and is an extremely cool soldier, almost on BB's level.


What's going to fix his ankles? Nanomachines? Maybe a pair of robot feet.
Time?

Say.... I don't know... 9 years.
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Okay, so I saw this other theory at Gamefaq that may support the "Chico is dead" possibility, but may also open a new theory-that Chico is with Huey, or that at least Huey knows where Chico is. So first of all, it stems from this picture:
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http://i.imgur.com/fTonuF5.jpg

The cassette player that Kaz has the E3 2013 trailer when torturing Huey is the same one Chico used in 1975, and not a newer model made in 1984. Other items like the iDroid were updated in the 9 year timeskip. It's most likely the same cassette player.

Now this supports the Chico is dead possibility because, well, Kaz has the cassette player and the most likely explanation is that they're playing the part that incriminates Huey when Skull Face says that "the scientist was their way in." Although it could also simply be that Chico is in Diamond Dogs and he gave the cassette to Kaz. However, the cassette was with Chico at the end of GZ, and since the cassette is undamaged, then Chico could/should also most likely be.

Now another thing I believe may happen is that after the fall of MSF, with nowhere to go, since Snake was in a coma and Kaz most likely wouldn't accept him after betraying them, Chico somehow ends up finding Huey, who takes Chico in. Huey, who may not have meant to betray MB and didn't know about the Trojan Horse Operation, or betrayed MB in order to save Strangelove, takes pity on Chico and sympathizes with him, since they're now both traitors of MSF who chose to save the ones they love. Over the next years, Huey comes up with a way of allowing Chico to walk again and the two start doing their own investigation on Cipher/XOF, eventually learning that Cipher is planning something in Africa. But at some point Huey is captured by Diamond Dogs and interrogated, and they even find Chico's cassette player with Huey, and interrogating him in order to learn of Chico's whereabouts in 1984, since Chico is the other traitor. Another thing that caught my attention is that the room where Huey is being tortured: Posted Image
is the same room where we see him later on in the trailer and he looks quite happy, looking at the sky: Posted Image
So, I'm trying to imagine what happened for there to be such a tonal shift.

I eagerly await for you guys to call my theory stupid and point out the holes in it.
So the reason you know the rooms Huey is seen in on the trailer, are the same due to the yellow line on the floor?Or am I missing something? (I am never missing anything. Trust me. I check)

EDIT: Shit almost forgot. Your theory is stupid.
Edited by Thebull94, Jul 11 2014, 03:52:34 AM.
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Okay, so I saw this other theory at Gamefaq that may support the "Chico is dead" possibility, but may also open a new theory-that Chico is with Huey, or that at least Huey knows where Chico is. So first of all, it stems from this picture:
Posted Image

http://i.imgur.com/fTonuF5.jpg

The cassette player that Kaz has the E3 2013 trailer when torturing Huey is the same one Chico used in 1975, and not a newer model made in 1984. Other items like the iDroid were updated in the 9 year timeskip. It's most likely the same cassette player.

Now this supports the Chico is dead possibility because, well, Kaz has the cassette player and the most likely explanation is that they're playing the part that incriminates Huey when Skull Face says that "the scientist was their way in." Although it could also simply be that Chico is in Diamond Dogs and he gave the cassette to Kaz. However, the cassette was with Chico at the end of GZ, and since the cassette is undamaged, then Chico could/should also most likely be.

Now another thing I believe may happen is that after the fall of MSF, with nowhere to go, since Snake was in a coma and Kaz most likely wouldn't accept him after betraying them, Chico somehow ends up finding Huey, who takes Chico in. Huey, who may not have meant to betray MB and didn't know about the Trojan Horse Operation, or betrayed MB in order to save Strangelove, takes pity on Chico and sympathizes with him, since they're now both traitors of MSF who chose to save the ones they love. Over the next years, Huey comes up with a way of allowing Chico to walk again and the two start doing their own investigation on Cipher/XOF, eventually learning that Cipher is planning something in Africa. But at some point Huey is captured by Diamond Dogs and interrogated, and they even find Chico's cassette player with Huey, and interrogating him in order to learn of Chico's whereabouts in 1984, since Chico is the other traitor. Another thing that caught my attention is that the room where Huey is being tortured: Posted Image
is the same room where we see him later on in the trailer and he looks quite happy, looking at the sky: Posted Image
So, I'm trying to imagine what happened for there to be such a tonal shift.

I eagerly await for you guys to call my theory stupid and point out the holes in it.
So the reason you know the rooms Huey is seen in on the trailer, are the same due to the yellow line on the floor?Or am I missing something? (I am never missing anything. Trust me. I check)

EDIT: Shit almost forgot. Your theory is stupid.
Its not that dumb. Its actually a possibility, doesn't go against anything we've seen at least.
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Jul 10 2014, 05:37:02 PM
Okay, so I saw this other theory at Gamefaq that may support the "Chico is dead" possibility, but may also open a new theory-that Chico is with Huey, or that at least Huey knows where Chico is. So first of all, it stems from this picture:
Posted Image

http://i.imgur.com/fTonuF5.jpg

The cassette player that Kaz has the E3 2013 trailer when torturing Huey is the same one Chico used in 1975, and not a newer model made in 1984. Other items like the iDroid were updated in the 9 year timeskip. It's most likely the same cassette player.

Now this supports the Chico is dead possibility because, well, Kaz has the cassette player and the most likely explanation is that they're playing the part that incriminates Huey when Skull Face says that "the scientist was their way in." Although it could also simply be that Chico is in Diamond Dogs and he gave the cassette to Kaz. However, the cassette was with Chico at the end of GZ, and since the cassette is undamaged, then Chico could/should also most likely be.

Now another thing I believe may happen is that after the fall of MSF, with nowhere to go, since Snake was in a coma and Kaz most likely wouldn't accept him after betraying them, Chico somehow ends up finding Huey, who takes Chico in. Huey, who may not have meant to betray MB and didn't know about the Trojan Horse Operation, or betrayed MB in order to save Strangelove, takes pity on Chico and sympathizes with him, since they're now both traitors of MSF who chose to save the ones they love. Over the next years, Huey comes up with a way of allowing Chico to walk again and the two start doing their own investigation on Cipher/XOF, eventually learning that Cipher is planning something in Africa. But at some point Huey is captured by Diamond Dogs and interrogated, and they even find Chico's cassette player with Huey, and interrogating him in order to learn of Chico's whereabouts in 1984, since Chico is the other traitor. Another thing that caught my attention is that the room where Huey is being tortured: Posted Image
is the same room where we see him later on in the trailer and he looks quite happy, looking at the sky: Posted Image
So, I'm trying to imagine what happened for there to be such a tonal shift.

I eagerly await for you guys to call my theory stupid and point out the holes in it.
So the reason you know the rooms Huey is seen in on the trailer, are the same due to the yellow line on the floor?Or am I missing something? (I am never missing anything. Trust me. I check)

EDIT: Shit almost forgot. Your theory is stupid.
Its not that dumb. Its actually a possibility, doesn't go against anything we've seen at least.
I think it is, going by his pictures alone he is basically claiming (what seemed to be a factual statement) that Huey is in the same room twice (once being water boarded and the other being all happy and shiet) due to 2 measly yellow lines on the floor.

Another theory is derived from a blurred image of a walkman which brought him to the assumption that it is the SAME walkman Chico had. Now I do not doubt the cassette (The only plausible theory is they are punishing huey and using the cassette tape as evidence of his traitorous acts) could be the same but the reason behind it being a blurred picture seems silly to me.

Also how does that mean Chico is dead or even alive?

Actually if shit was tackled realistically (and it TURNED OUT to be the same cassette player) then the cassette player would show signs off damage after the explosion. So actually his theory falls flat on itself before it even began.

Ludicrous (Never have I used this word so much until I began posting on this forum. Just a fun fact.).

Just my two cents. Along with a paragraph of whoop ass.


Edited by Thebull94, Jul 11 2014, 05:12:23 AM.
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@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could think the same way. Chico is a child and should be forgiven. But I doubt that will be the case. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
Chico should be strung up, if only for being the worst, most irritating character that Kojima has ever made. And that's a bold statement.

I'd love to string Chico up myself.... and instead of shooting him... Slowly push a bullet through his body with Big Boss's own hands. You could even tap a button to do it! You know Kojima is going to get some button tapping in the game somehow. This would make a great opportunity.

I'd tap that button as slow as I could. And hopefully the FOX Engine adequately captures his pain the whole time. Then I'd throw his dead body to the Diamond Dogs to mutilate, light him on fire, and we'd all play "Swords" while pissing on his dead body.

THAT'S what Chico deserves...
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@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could think the same way. Chico is a child and should be forgiven. But I doubt that will be the case. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
Chico should be strung up, if only for being the worst, most irritating character that Kojima has ever made. And that's a bold statement.

I'd love to string Chico up myself.... and instead of shooting him... Slowly push a bullet through his body with Big Boss's own hands. You could even tap a button to do it! You know Kojima is going to get some button tapping in the game somehow. This would make a great opportunity.

I'd tap that button as slow as I could. And hopefully the FOX Engine adequately captures his pain the whole time. Then I'd throw his dead body to the Diamond Dogs to mutilate, light him on fire, and we'd all play "Swords" while pissing on his dead body.

THAT'S what Chico deserves...
Hmmm. Yea. Didn't you call me immature and distasteful? Ah forget it, lets not get this thread off topic as well

*Secretly knows the thread will now go off topic*
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Jul 10 2014, 05:37:02 PM
Okay, so I saw this other theory at Gamefaq that may support the "Chico is dead" possibility, but may also open a new theory-that Chico is with Huey, or that at least Huey knows where Chico is. So first of all, it stems from this picture:
Posted Image

http://i.imgur.com/fTonuF5.jpg

The cassette player that Kaz has the E3 2013 trailer when torturing Huey is the same one Chico used in 1975, and not a newer model made in 1984. Other items like the iDroid were updated in the 9 year timeskip. It's most likely the same cassette player.

Now this supports the Chico is dead possibility because, well, Kaz has the cassette player and the most likely explanation is that they're playing the part that incriminates Huey when Skull Face says that "the scientist was their way in." Although it could also simply be that Chico is in Diamond Dogs and he gave the cassette to Kaz. However, the cassette was with Chico at the end of GZ, and since the cassette is undamaged, then Chico could/should also most likely be.

Now another thing I believe may happen is that after the fall of MSF, with nowhere to go, since Snake was in a coma and Kaz most likely wouldn't accept him after betraying them, Chico somehow ends up finding Huey, who takes Chico in. Huey, who may not have meant to betray MB and didn't know about the Trojan Horse Operation, or betrayed MB in order to save Strangelove, takes pity on Chico and sympathizes with him, since they're now both traitors of MSF who chose to save the ones they love. Over the next years, Huey comes up with a way of allowing Chico to walk again and the two start doing their own investigation on Cipher/XOF, eventually learning that Cipher is planning something in Africa. But at some point Huey is captured by Diamond Dogs and interrogated, and they even find Chico's cassette player with Huey, and interrogating him in order to learn of Chico's whereabouts in 1984, since Chico is the other traitor. Another thing that caught my attention is that the room where Huey is being tortured: Posted Image
is the same room where we see him later on in the trailer and he looks quite happy, looking at the sky: Posted Image
So, I'm trying to imagine what happened for there to be such a tonal shift.

I eagerly await for you guys to call my theory stupid and point out the holes in it.
So the reason you know the rooms Huey is seen in on the trailer, are the same due to the yellow line on the floor?Or am I missing something? (I am never missing anything. Trust me. I check)

EDIT: Shit almost forgot. Your theory is stupid.
Its not that dumb. Its actually a possibility, doesn't go against anything we've seen at least.
I think it is, going by his pictures alone he is basically claiming (what seemed to be a factual statement) that Huey is in the same room twice (once being water boarded and the other being all happy and shiet) due to 2 measly yellow lines on the floor.

Another theory is derived from a blurred image of a walkman which brought him to the assumption that it is the SAME walkman Chico had. Now I do not doubt the cassette (The only plausible theory is they are punishing huey and using the cassette tape as evidence of his traitorous acts) could be the same but the reason behind it being a blurred picture seems silly to me.

Also how does that mean Chico is dead or even alive?

Actually if shit was tackled realistically (and it TURNED OUT to be the same cassette player) then the cassette player would show signs off damage after the explosion. So actually his theory falls flat on itself before it even began.

Ludicrous (Never have I used this word so much until I began posting on this forum. Just a fun fact.).

Just my two cents. Along with a paragraph of whoop ass.
Hey, sorry I'm late. I went to sleep early. None of this is a factual statement, so my apologies if that's what it seemed like. Anyway, no I'm not just basing this on the yellow stripes. I'm basing this on the fact that both have the same desk, the same door at the edge of the room, the same cable wires on the floor, and other stuff. You can see that in the trailers. I only chose those images because they were the only ones small enough I could find. But if you watch several trailers, you will see the similarities.

As for the cassette, it's still the same model used 9 years later and not a newer one. We saw other items such as the iDroid be upgraded during that time. That's what led me to believe it's the same one, since it's an old, outdated version from 1975. If the cassette doesn't show any sign of damage, then it could be possible that it, along with Chico didn't take damage.
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@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could think the same way. Chico is a child and should be forgiven. But I doubt that will be the case. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
Chico should be strung up, if only for being the worst, most irritating character that Kojima has ever made. And that's a bold statement.

I'd love to string Chico up myself.... and instead of shooting him... Slowly push a bullet through his body with Big Boss's own hands. You could even tap a button to do it! You know Kojima is going to get some button tapping in the game somehow. This would make a great opportunity.

I'd tap that button as slow as I could. And hopefully the FOX Engine adequately captures his pain the whole time. Then I'd throw his dead body to the Diamond Dogs to mutilate, light him on fire, and we'd all play "Swords" while pissing on his dead body.

THAT'S what Chico deserves...
Dude, that's fucked up. Chico is only 13, he doesn't deserve that on the grounds of being a "annoying 13 year old." He seems like a realistic 13 year old, I bet you and many others were like that at his age. If you really think he deserves that, then man, that's messed up.
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@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could think the same way. Chico is a child and should be forgiven. But I doubt that will be the case. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
Chico should be strung up, if only for being the worst, most irritating character that Kojima has ever made. And that's a bold statement.

I'd love to string Chico up myself.... and instead of shooting him... Slowly push a bullet through his body with Big Boss's own hands. You could even tap a button to do it! You know Kojima is going to get some button tapping in the game somehow. This would make a great opportunity.

I'd tap that button as slow as I could. And hopefully the FOX Engine adequately captures his pain the whole time. Then I'd throw his dead body to the Diamond Dogs to mutilate, light him on fire, and we'd all play "Swords" while pissing on his dead body.

THAT'S what Chico deserves...
Erm...Chico is not real :D
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Jul 10 2014, 05:08:58 PM
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Jul 10 2014, 05:03:04 PM
@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could think the same way. Chico is a child and should be forgiven. But I doubt that will be the case. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
Chico should be strung up, if only for being the worst, most irritating character that Kojima has ever made. And that's a bold statement.

I'd love to string Chico up myself.... and instead of shooting him... Slowly push a bullet through his body with Big Boss's own hands. You could even tap a button to do it! You know Kojima is going to get some button tapping in the game somehow. This would make a great opportunity.

I'd tap that button as slow as I could. And hopefully the FOX Engine adequately captures his pain the whole time. Then I'd throw his dead body to the Diamond Dogs to mutilate, light him on fire, and we'd all play "Swords" while pissing on his dead body.

THAT'S what Chico deserves...
Erm...Chico is not real :D
Oh, right, I keep forgetting that.

Still, I get so emotionally invested with fictional characters.
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Jul 11 2014, 03:44:28 PM
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Jul 10 2014, 05:03:04 PM
@Eagle No-one is going to hate Chico for doing what he did. He's a kid that has been tortured intensely. Paz betrayed MSF, so did Huey. Huey's betrayal was definitely worse. Bad enough to hate him? I'd say yes. But Chico never betrayed MSF, he never meant any harm.
I honestly wish I could think the same way. Chico is a child and should be forgiven. But I doubt that will be the case. I can see Big Boss forgiving Chico. I am almost sure Big Boss did. But I don't think the same could be said for Kaz. He only wanted to rescue Chico because Chico knew too much and even implied that if they couldn't stop Chico from talking, that Snake should kill him.
Chico should be strung up, if only for being the worst, most irritating character that Kojima has ever made. And that's a bold statement.

I'd love to string Chico up myself.... and instead of shooting him... Slowly push a bullet through his body with Big Boss's own hands. You could even tap a button to do it! You know Kojima is going to get some button tapping in the game somehow. This would make a great opportunity.

I'd tap that button as slow as I could. And hopefully the FOX Engine adequately captures his pain the whole time. Then I'd throw his dead body to the Diamond Dogs to mutilate, light him on fire, and we'd all play "Swords" while pissing on his dead body.

THAT'S what Chico deserves...
Erm...Chico is not real :D
Oh, right, I keep forgetting that.

Still, I get so emotionally invested with fictional characters.
Was that a hint of sarcasm in that first line lol. Still, I wouldn't say to any character or lets string them up and throw stones at his balls because its not like I can actually do that even if I could. I mean, I'd skip his scene if anything :P
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Jul 11 2014, 09:18:16 AM
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Jul 10 2014, 05:37:02 PM
Okay, so I saw this other theory at Gamefaq that may support the "Chico is dead" possibility, but may also open a new theory-that Chico is with Huey, or that at least Huey knows where Chico is. So first of all, it stems from this picture:
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http://i.imgur.com/fTonuF5.jpg

The cassette player that Kaz has the E3 2013 trailer when torturing Huey is the same one Chico used in 1975, and not a newer model made in 1984. Other items like the iDroid were updated in the 9 year timeskip. It's most likely the same cassette player.

Now this supports the Chico is dead possibility because, well, Kaz has the cassette player and the most likely explanation is that they're playing the part that incriminates Huey when Skull Face says that "the scientist was their way in." Although it could also simply be that Chico is in Diamond Dogs and he gave the cassette to Kaz. However, the cassette was with Chico at the end of GZ, and since the cassette is undamaged, then Chico could/should also most likely be.

Now another thing I believe may happen is that after the fall of MSF, with nowhere to go, since Snake was in a coma and Kaz most likely wouldn't accept him after betraying them, Chico somehow ends up finding Huey, who takes Chico in. Huey, who may not have meant to betray MB and didn't know about the Trojan Horse Operation, or betrayed MB in order to save Strangelove, takes pity on Chico and sympathizes with him, since they're now both traitors of MSF who chose to save the ones they love. Over the next years, Huey comes up with a way of allowing Chico to walk again and the two start doing their own investigation on Cipher/XOF, eventually learning that Cipher is planning something in Africa. But at some point Huey is captured by Diamond Dogs and interrogated, and they even find Chico's cassette player with Huey, and interrogating him in order to learn of Chico's whereabouts in 1984, since Chico is the other traitor. Another thing that caught my attention is that the room where Huey is being tortured: Posted Image
is the same room where we see him later on in the trailer and he looks quite happy, looking at the sky: Posted Image
So, I'm trying to imagine what happened for there to be such a tonal shift.

I eagerly await for you guys to call my theory stupid and point out the holes in it.
So the reason you know the rooms Huey is seen in on the trailer, are the same due to the yellow line on the floor?Or am I missing something? (I am never missing anything. Trust me. I check)

EDIT: Shit almost forgot. Your theory is stupid.
Its not that dumb. Its actually a possibility, doesn't go against anything we've seen at least.
I think it is, going by his pictures alone he is basically claiming (what seemed to be a factual statement) that Huey is in the same room twice (once being water boarded and the other being all happy and shiet) due to 2 measly yellow lines on the floor.

Another theory is derived from a blurred image of a walkman which brought him to the assumption that it is the SAME walkman Chico had. Now I do not doubt the cassette (The only plausible theory is they are punishing huey and using the cassette tape as evidence of his traitorous acts) could be the same but the reason behind it being a blurred picture seems silly to me.

Also how does that mean Chico is dead or even alive?

Actually if shit was tackled realistically (and it TURNED OUT to be the same cassette player) then the cassette player would show signs off damage after the explosion. So actually his theory falls flat on itself before it even began.

Ludicrous (Never have I used this word so much until I began posting on this forum. Just a fun fact.).

Just my two cents. Along with a paragraph of whoop ass.
Hey, sorry I'm late. I went to sleep early. None of this is a factual statement, so my apologies if that's what it seemed like. Anyway, no I'm not just basing this on the yellow stripes. I'm basing this on the fact that both have the same desk, the same door at the edge of the room, the same cable wires on the floor, and other stuff. You can see that in the trailers. I only chose those images because they were the only ones small enough I could find. But if you watch several trailers, you will see the similarities.

As for the cassette, it's still the same model used 9 years later and not a newer one. We saw other items such as the iDroid be upgraded during that time. That's what led me to believe it's the same one, since it's an old, outdated version from 1975. If the cassette doesn't show any sign of damage, then it could be possible that it, along with Chico didn't take damage.


Chico addicted to heroin, or laughing gas and is actually Laughing Octopus?

Hmm.

No apologies needed, misinterpretation happens a lot here which is why I asked, rather than assumed.

"I'm basing this on the fact that both have the same desk, the same door at the edge of the room, the same cable wires on the floor, and other stuff. You can see that in the trailers. I only chose those images because they were the only ones small enough I could find. But if you watch several trailers, you will see the similarities."

Not watched the trailer in a long time, so if this is true then good catch.

"As for the cassette, it's still the same model used 9 years later and not a newer one. We saw other items such as the iDroid be upgraded during that time. That's what led me to believe it's the same one, since it's an old, outdated version from 1975. If the cassette doesn't show any sign of damage, then it could be possible that it, along with Chico didn't take damage."

Yea this is what I don't get (I might rewatch the trailers) but is there a better shot of the cassette player? A blurred image leaves it pretty hard to distinguish between cassette players that have been modified and those that have not. I mean it could be any old tape player due to even Big Boss having one.

I mean it makes more sense in it being Big Bosses or somebody elses due to Big Boss having all the cassette tapes detailing their traitorous acts, why put the tape BACK into Chicos? I think BB is just questioning Huey on more information on what else he said (Possibly injecting him with nanomachines turning him into vamp? I kidd, I kidd) and I think the tape doesn't hold much significant meaning IMO.
Edited by Thebull94, Jul 11 2014, 03:50:17 PM.
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Jul 11 2014, 02:38:44 PM
I hope Chico is an heroin user that's messed up ;)
How is Chico going to pay for a heroin addiction? Whats he gonna do? Sell his body? Maybe get some breast implants and "work nights"?
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I hope Chico is an heroin user that's messed up ;)
How is Chico going to pay for a heroin addiction? Whats he gonna do? Sell his body? Maybe get some breast implants and "work nights"?
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