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Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers)
Topic Started: Apr 2 2014, 07:43:53 PM (29,410 Views)
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Jul 12 2014, 01:02:37 AM
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Jul 11 2014, 04:45:46 PM
Could you guys stop quoting the last person, and rather just quote the new response? There's no need to have twelve quotes in your new quote.

And no, it wasn't confirmed.
another useless answer by inspector swag
You have no right to use the word "useless" unless it's describing yourself. Now shut the hell up and go play the games.
i have every right
Neither one of you has any right to call the other useless. We all make stupid posts from time to time. How about we both respect each other.
And have an orgy
No thanks. He'd just ask me questions the whole time.

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That quote chain XD
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That quote chain XD
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More and more I find myself believing that Chico will be the hero of TPP. I mean, everything that happened with Paz was similar to The Boss, downright to the letter shaped scar on her body in which she had to perform a cesarian, something that even Kojima confirmed. Now, Paz was the most important person to Chico, so copying that V-shaped scar to mirror what Big Boss did with The Boss. It just makes so much sense.
And Paz did seemingly return his feelings, with the kiss and everything else.
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Why make a big deal about a one note character that none cares about? This gmae is about BB downfall, i dont want to lose time with this nobody
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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Jul 14 2014, 06:34:57 AM
Why make a big deal about a one note character that none cares about? This gmae is about BB downfall, i dont want to lose time with this nobody
Because I care. That's enough reason for me.
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Jul 14 2014, 06:34:57 AM
Why make a big deal about a one note character that *I and some others don't care about? This gmae is about BB downfall, i dont want to lose time with this nobody
Fixed. I'm no Chico fanboy, but I don't understand what the big deal about him is. If he's gonna be a main character, whatever, as long as its done right. He's not the greatest character, but there's no reason not to have him in TPP.
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If Chico is in it Amanda should be too. And I just don't get why they would be in this game, they were a pair of Nicaraguans fighting against a dictatorship.
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Jul 14 2014, 12:11:17 PM
If Chico is in it Amanda should be too. And I just don't get why they would be in this game, they were a pair of Nicaraguans fighting against a dictatorship.
Not really. Chico has motive to be in the game, which would be revenge on Skull Face and XOF after the death of Paz, who he was in love with. Amanda, on the other hand, around this time should be busy helping rebuilt Nicaragua after the revolution. Still, I suppose it's possible that she is in the game.
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Jul 14 2014, 12:13:21 PM
LOL.
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Jul 14 2014, 12:13:21 PM
Made my day :D

I still don't know why people think he is that important??? is it just because of the tapes?

I see the tapes as more important tool to build up Skullface's character rather than Chico's.
There is a good potential for his character but I don't mind him being dead :P
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Jim Houseman
Jul 14 2014, 12:11:17 PM
If Chico is in it Amanda should be too. And I just don't get why they would be in this game, they were a pair of Nicaraguans fighting against a dictatorship.
Amanda and Chico are/were a part of MSF and it makes sense for them to continue along with Kaz and the Diamond Dogs if they've survived. Amanda was doing a mission near Cuba at the time of GZ that most likely had nothing to do with Nicaragua and the Sandinista agenda. She even wears a Militaries San Frontieres bikini. She's a mercenary now.
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Made my day :D

I still don't know why people think he is that important??? is it just because of the tapes?

I see the tapes as more important tool to build up Skullface's character rather than Chico's.
There is a good potential for his character but I don't mind him being dead :P
That is true, but the focus on Chico and Paz seems to be too strong for it to amount to nothing.

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Amanda and Chico are/were a part of MSF and it makes sense for them to continue along with Kaz and the Diamond Dogs if they've survived. Amanda was doing a mission near Cuba at the time of GZ that most likely had nothing to do with Nicaragua and the Sandinista agenda. She even wears a Militaries San Frontieres bikini. She's a mercenary now.


Amanda is the Sandinista comandante. I'm pretty sure she was working with MSF due to loyalty to Big Boss and to get some money for MSF. Since the Nicaraguan Revolution continued until 1979, and then Somoza was assassinated 1980. Not to mention Nicaragua had to rebuilt the following years. I'm plenty sure Amanda was still leading the the Sandinistas. The Sandinistas were allied with MSF during Peace Walker, not a branch of it.
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I interpreted the Chico and Paz thing as a convenient plot point used to lure snake into Camp Omega, nothing more. It was most likely also a convenient plot choice so that the player could sympathize with Chico, watching him fall apart and Paz watching her... Fall apart? I don't think there is anything more to it really, seems to me that Kojima was trying to squeeze as much story (albiet a boring, love story.... That involves rape. So not soo boring) out of this £30 game as he could without spoiling the Phantom Pain.

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I interpreted the Chico and Paz thing as a convenient plot point used to lure snake into Camp Omega, nothing more. It was most likely also a convenient plot choice so that the player could sympathize with Chico, watching him fall apart and Paz watching her... Fall apart? I don't think there is anything more to it really, seems to me that Kojima was trying to squeeze as much story (albiet a boring, love story.... That involves rape. So not soo boring) out of this £30 game as he could without spoiling the Phantom Pain.

I think the focus on Chico and Paz's growing relationship was way, way too strong for it to have just been that. And Kojima said he wanted to parallel Paz to the Boss. But since Snake already serves as a "legacy" carrier of the Boss with the S-shaped scar on his body, Chico could serve as a carrier for Paz's legacy with the V-shaped scar in his own body. The parallels are too strong. And the love story I think serves to build character and motive for Chico.
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Kojima said he wanted to parallel Paz to the Boss.


When did he say this? I'm really curious about this, actually. Was it an an interview or something?

The "V" scar on her stomach is seemingly a direct parallel to the Boss. Also the fact that both were basically traitors in the eyes of BB up until the very end (the Boss' monologue and Paz jumping from the heli).

The one thing that doesn't gel so fluidly with this, though, is Chico's role in all of this. Is he supposed to mirror BB before he turned into a demon? That would feel cheesy to me, and WAY to big of an impact for a character like Chico. Not saying he doesn't play a big role, but it just doesn't sit well with me to have him be a heroic figure like that.

I'd much rather have Chico be a rogue nomad, just out to fuck shit up for his personal revenge against Skull Face.
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Amanda is a Sandinista commandante not the commandante. I think she would want just as much revenge for Big Boss, the Mother Base attack , and Chico's torture. She is a woman after all, you know they can't let things go and are super emotional.
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I interpreted the Chico and Paz thing as a convenient plot point used to lure snake into Camp Omega, nothing more. It was most likely also a convenient plot choice so that the player could sympathize with Chico, watching him fall apart and Paz watching her... Fall apart? I don't think there is anything more to it really, seems to me that Kojima was trying to squeeze as much story (albiet a boring, love story.... That involves rape. So not soo boring) out of this £30 game as he could without spoiling the Phantom Pain.

I think the focus on Chico and Paz's growing relationship was way, way too strong for it to have just been that. And Kojima said he wanted to parallel Paz to the Boss. But since Snake already serves as a "legacy" carrier of the Boss with the S-shaped scar on his body, Chico could serve as a carrier for Paz with the V-shaped scar in his own body. The parallels are too strong. And the love story I think serves to build character and motive for Chico.
"I think the focus on Chico and Paz's growing relationship was way, way too strong for it to have just been that."

Why? They loved each other (Well Chico did), went through hell, and Paz died, potentially Chico as well so what was 'way too strong' about it? The more logical explanation is that it was just a convenient excuse to get snake away from Mother Base so the 'Motive' for Phantom Pain could happen. I really do not get what was significant about their love story other than that.

"And Kojima said he wanted to parallel Paz to the Boss."

Could be interpreted in many ways, so how did you interpret it to involve Chico, let alone him becoming the main character / protagonist, which Quiet has already been confirmed to be the protagonist. Or wait, do you mean... !

" But since Snake already serves as a "legacy" carrier of the Boss with the S-shaped scar on his body, Chico could serve as a carrier for Paz with the V-shaped scar in his own body."

What S shaped scar and what V shaped scar? What do they symbolize if they exist? We understand the one for Big Boss (if it is actually a clear 's' symbol) but how do we know the 'V' is related to Paz? I know your not stating facts but still explain it to me.

"And the love story I think serves to build character and motive for Chico."

How. We know he has been through hell, but so has the medic, so has BB's soldiers, so has Big Boss. So what makes you think Chico's misery is special / evident of a more deeper meaning?
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Big boss doesn't actually have that scar it's fake.
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