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Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers)
Topic Started: Apr 2 2014, 07:43:53 PM (29,403 Views)
Bladewolf
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Inspector_Swag
Jul 17 2014, 12:47:03 AM
SlyIsSNaKe
Jul 17 2014, 12:44:02 AM
@Thebull94: How was Raiden becoming a Cyborg Ninja felt forced? At the end of 2 we were given a sword and he was trained by Solidus so that makes sense. I mean maybe the Cyborg part but that was mainly telling what happened to him between 2 and 4 which also makes sense.
He was supposed to be done at the end of 2. Him coming back is forced.
żżż???
I like you dude, but you have proof of that? i dont remember anything of that outside of MGS2 being the end for the franchise.

@the bull94 i watched the video, not offense dude, but to me in this franchise fan theories doesnt mean jack to me, fan theories are the reason that we got stupid shit like ''Kojima didnt want to make mgs4'' ''Portable ops is not canon'' or every bullshit theory in the TPP, baseless bullshit that was never proved.
I take what Snake said, ''choose what you believe''.
Edited by Bladewolf, Jul 17 2014, 12:55:35 AM.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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Bladewolf
Jul 17 2014, 12:49:53 AM
Inspector_Swag
Jul 17 2014, 12:47:03 AM
SlyIsSNaKe
Jul 17 2014, 12:44:02 AM
@Thebull94: How was Raiden becoming a Cyborg Ninja felt forced? At the end of 2 we were given a sword and he was trained by Solidus so that makes sense. I mean maybe the Cyborg part but that was mainly telling what happened to him between 2 and 4 which also makes sense.
He was supposed to be done at the end of 2. Him coming back is forced.
żżż???
I like you dude, but you have proof of that? i dont remember anything of that outside of MGS2 being the end for the franchise.
The entire ending is implying Raiden is done. No more fighting. He's to choose who he wants. Why do you think Snake refuses his help to find The Patriots? Raiden was supposed to retire with Rise and the baby.

It's heavily implied.
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Bladewolf
Jul 17 2014, 12:49:53 AM
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Jul 17 2014, 12:47:03 AM
SlyIsSNaKe
Jul 17 2014, 12:44:02 AM
@Thebull94: How was Raiden becoming a Cyborg Ninja felt forced? At the end of 2 we were given a sword and he was trained by Solidus so that makes sense. I mean maybe the Cyborg part but that was mainly telling what happened to him between 2 and 4 which also makes sense.
He was supposed to be done at the end of 2. Him coming back is forced.
żżż???
I like you dude, but you have proof of that? i dont remember anything of that outside of MGS2 being the end for the franchise.
The whole of no.2 felt like an ending for him. Raiden throwing the dog tags away, snake telling him to live his life / find it etc. It was all a closing not just for him but for the whole series, yet people bitched and moaned and we got Metal Gear Solid 4: Nanomachines out the ass. IGN - 10/10
RIP Morgan Freeman
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Bladewolf
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Thebull94
Jul 17 2014, 12:53:54 AM
Bladewolf
Jul 17 2014, 12:49:53 AM
Inspector_Swag
Jul 17 2014, 12:47:03 AM
SlyIsSNaKe
Jul 17 2014, 12:44:02 AM
@Thebull94: How was Raiden becoming a Cyborg Ninja felt forced? At the end of 2 we were given a sword and he was trained by Solidus so that makes sense. I mean maybe the Cyborg part but that was mainly telling what happened to him between 2 and 4 which also makes sense.
He was supposed to be done at the end of 2. Him coming back is forced.
żżż???
I like you dude, but you have proof of that? i dont remember anything of that outside of MGS2 being the end for the franchise.
The whole of no.2 felt like an ending for him. Raiden throwing the dog tags away, snake telling him to live his life / find it etc. It was all a closing not just for him but for the whole series, yet people bitched and moaned and we got Metal Gear Solid 4: Nanomachines out the ass. IGN - 10/10
FELT being the keyword, baseless assumptions from fans again.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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Jul 17 2014, 12:57:11 AM
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Jul 17 2014, 12:53:54 AM
Bladewolf
Jul 17 2014, 12:49:53 AM
Inspector_Swag
Jul 17 2014, 12:47:03 AM
SlyIsSNaKe
Jul 17 2014, 12:44:02 AM
@Thebull94: How was Raiden becoming a Cyborg Ninja felt forced? At the end of 2 we were given a sword and he was trained by Solidus so that makes sense. I mean maybe the Cyborg part but that was mainly telling what happened to him between 2 and 4 which also makes sense.
He was supposed to be done at the end of 2. Him coming back is forced.
żżż???
I like you dude, but you have proof of that? i dont remember anything of that outside of MGS2 being the end for the franchise.
The whole of no.2 felt like an ending for him. Raiden throwing the dog tags away, snake telling him to live his life / find it etc. It was all a closing not just for him but for the whole series, yet people bitched and moaned and we got Metal Gear Solid 4: Nanomachines out the ass. IGN - 10/10
FELT being the keyword, baseless assumptions from fans again.
Shut the fuck up. Kojima confirmed it was the end of MGS2, it is a fact he was going to end not only raiden but the whole franchise, take your head out your ass you pretentious dick. Learn what the fuck 'baseless' means rather than throwing it around so carelessly.
Edited by Thebull94, Jul 17 2014, 12:59:57 AM.
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@Inspector_Swag: Lol all of MGS4 is forced basically then. Raiden, Meryl, Naomi, Vamp, Johnny, Campbell, Rose, Sunny
etc.

@Thebull94: I guess Grey Fox can only have Cyborg strength then. I mean him stopping the ship is not forced. Him coming back to life afterwards, thats forced.
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SlyIsSNaKe
Jul 17 2014, 12:59:51 AM
@Inspector_Swag: Lol all of MGS4 is forced basically then. Raiden, Meryl, Naomi, Vamp, Johnny, Campbell, Rose, Sunny
etc.
I don't disagree.
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Jul 17 2014, 12:59:51 AM
@Inspector_Swag: Lol all of MGS4 is forced basically then. Raiden, Meryl, Naomi, Vamp, Johnny, Campbell, Rose, Sunny
etc.

@Thebull94: I guess Grey Fox can only have Cyborg strength then. I mean him stopping the ship is not forced. Him coming back to life afterwards, thats forced.
Grey fox stopped a Metal Gears foot (to my knowledge) temporarily. Raiden stopped a whole fucking ship. Difference.

"@Inspector_Swag: Lol all of MGS4 is forced basically then. Raiden, Meryl, Naomi, Vamp, Johnny, Campbell, Rose, Sunny"

The whole game was forced considering Kojima didn't want a sequel to MGS2.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Every sequel is forced by that logic, in Resident Evil 5 for example, Chris Redfield main story ended, yet he is again on the fight in RE6, WE THE FANS DONT decide if a character is done for or not, fucking hell, Konami can bring back S.Snake if they want it in a post Patriot world.
This is a ongoing series, that are not going to end anytime soon. The whole Raiden story ended in MGS2 is just that: Assumptions.

Gray Fox return as a cyborg ninja in MGS1 felt forced LULZ, but his story ended in MG2, Kojima you fucking hack

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Jul 17 2014, 01:07:56 AM
Every sequel is forced by that logic, in Resident Evil 5 for example, Chris Redfield main story ended, yet he is again on the fight in RE6, WE THE FANS DONT decide if a character is done for or not, fucking hell, Konami can bring back S.Snake if they want it in a post Patriot world.
This is a ongoing series, that are not going to end anytime soon. The whole Raiden story ended in MGS2 is just that: Assumptions.
Completely wrong, and baseless assumptions. Unless you have a source of the creator of RE5 stating he wants to finish with the franchise, then you opinion is invalid. Kojima stated he wasnted to end MGS at 2 but fans started moaning and bitching and we got the forced sequel MGS4, which had nothing but fan service printed all over it.

"This is a ongoing series, that are not going to end anytime soon. The whole Raiden story ended in MGS2 is just that: Assumptions."

Assumptions surrounding fact. The fact being what Kojima said. Your post is nothing but an invalid assumption.

Seriously, I have been watching your posts for some time, you just trott into a thread on your high horse, drop your two cents "I disagree, because fuck you" and then fuck off, leaving no form of explanation or fact behind your statement. I on the other hand always explain my reasons on disagreeing and agreeing, as too avoid coming across as a hipster douche that disagrees for the sake of disagreeing.

Hipster douche: "Oh the whole Raiden was the player thing never made sense to me"
Me: "Cool story, tell me why you disagree despite nearly everyone agreeing with the theory AND the theory having extremely convincing points supporting the notion, and tell me what your theory is, so I can debate it"
Hipster douche: *Changes the subject, moving on to more disagreeing with people* "I disagree that Raiden's story ended"
Me: "What a cunt"

Also @ the picture

Shit man, that is pretty funny, can I be your... your friend and stuff? Unoriginal incompetent imp.

Edited by Thebull94, Jul 17 2014, 01:17:21 AM.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Raiden story never ended in MGS2. The whole MGS2 is the ending for the franchise is just more bull from Kojima since the moment MGS3 began development without him, this IS a ongoing series, only a dumbfuck would think that KONAMI would end such profitable IP, this franchise is going foward with or without Kojima.
Edited by Bladewolf, Jul 17 2014, 01:23:33 AM.
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Jul 17 2014, 01:19:01 AM
Raiden story never ended in MGS2. The whole MGS2 is the ending for the franchise is just more bull from Kojima since the moment MGS3 began development without him, this IS a ongoing series, only a dumbfuck would think that KONAMI would end such profitable IP, this franchise is going foward with or without Kojima.
"The whole MGS2 is the ending for the franchise is just more bull from Kojima "

Tell me more about baseless assumptions :)

"only a dumbfuck would think that KONAMI would end such profitable IP"

Do you even know what you are arguing about? Raiden being forced, not whether or not MGS4 was likely. Fuck you are dumb as shit.
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Alright, guys, let's just calm down. Bladewolf, Bull, you guys obviously have differentiated opinions. Either agree to disagree, or continue to debate a respectful manner. We obviously have differentiated opinions about Raiden, just as I have with many of you guys about Chico. Let's learn to respect them and not insult each other.
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Jul 17 2014, 04:12:53 AM
Alright, guys, let's just calm down. Bladewolf, Bull, you guys obviously have differentiated opinions. Either agree to disagree, or continue to debate a respectful manner. We obviously have differentiated opinions about Raiden, just as I have with many of you guys about Chico. Let's learn to respect them and not insult each other.
It's not his opinion that got me annoyed, it's his whole persona, they way he acts and speaks to people in a condescending manner. Contributing his two cents then adding a 'fuck you' in the mix. He is an asshole and a straight up hipster douchebag.
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Jul 17 2014, 04:32:38 AM
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Jul 17 2014, 04:12:53 AM
Alright, guys, let's just calm down. Bladewolf, Bull, you guys obviously have differentiated opinions. Either agree to disagree, or continue to debate a respectful manner. We obviously have differentiated opinions about Raiden, just as I have with many of you guys about Chico. Let's learn to respect them and not insult each other.
It's not his opinion that got me annoyed, it's his whole persona, they way he acts and speaks to people in a condescending manner. Contributing his two cents then adding a 'fuck you' in the mix. He is an asshole and a straight up hipster douchebag.
Yeah, Bladewolf is generally like that. You get used to to it over time.
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Jul 17 2014, 07:48:39 AM
Thebull94
Jul 17 2014, 04:32:38 AM
Eagle
Jul 17 2014, 04:12:53 AM
Alright, guys, let's just calm down. Bladewolf, Bull, you guys obviously have differentiated opinions. Either agree to disagree, or continue to debate a respectful manner. We obviously have differentiated opinions about Raiden, just as I have with many of you guys about Chico. Let's learn to respect them and not insult each other.
It's not his opinion that got me annoyed, it's his whole persona, they way he acts and speaks to people in a condescending manner. Contributing his two cents then adding a 'fuck you' in the mix. He is an asshole and a straight up hipster douchebag.
Yeah, Bladewolf is generally like that. You get used to to it over time.
It's generally these type of people who still live in mother's basement. They need to feel superior to SOMEONE, at least.
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Jul 17 2014, 09:18:11 AM
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Jul 17 2014, 07:48:39 AM
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Jul 17 2014, 04:32:38 AM
Eagle
Jul 17 2014, 04:12:53 AM
Alright, guys, let's just calm down. Bladewolf, Bull, you guys obviously have differentiated opinions. Either agree to disagree, or continue to debate a respectful manner. We obviously have differentiated opinions about Raiden, just as I have with many of you guys about Chico. Let's learn to respect them and not insult each other.
It's not his opinion that got me annoyed, it's his whole persona, they way he acts and speaks to people in a condescending manner. Contributing his two cents then adding a 'fuck you' in the mix. He is an asshole and a straight up hipster douchebag.
Yeah, Bladewolf is generally like that. You get used to to it over time.
It's generally these type of people who still live in mother's basement. They need to feel superior to SOMEONE, at least.
Ok, let's stop talking about Bladewolf and Raiden, and get back to what this thread really is about.
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Chico's sausage?
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Jul 17 2014, 09:37:15 AM
Chico's sausage?
...Yes...Chico's sausage and the fact that he lost it.
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I don't know if Chico is quiet, if he is dead or whatever, but this thread is a ton of fun.
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