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Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers)
Topic Started: Apr 2 2014, 07:43:53 PM (29,402 Views)
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Jul 17 2014, 11:47:32 AM
I don't know if Chico is quiet, if he is dead or whatever, but this thread is a ton of fun.
Glad you like it. It can get crazy sometimes.
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Jul 17 2014, 02:23:28 PM
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Jul 17 2014, 11:47:32 AM
I don't know if Chico is quiet, if he is dead or whatever, but this thread is a ton of fun.
Glad you like it. It can get crazy sometimes.
The power of the sausage.
Sorry about my english, not my main language.
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So no more crazy theories, like, I don't know, Chico is Ishmael, or Chico is Quiet, or Paz was pregnant? Come on guys, give me something except for "He's dead."
Edited by Eagle, Jul 18 2014, 04:17:42 AM.
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Chico is the 'bomb' that blew up / busted in Paz's vagina ;)
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Jul 18 2014, 04:02:10 AM
Chico is the 'bomb' that blew up / busted in Paz's vagina ;)
LOL, I feel so bad for laughing about this. I actually meant that last part as a joke because I saw someone theorize on the internet the possibility that Paz may have become pregnant of Chico's child. :D If that were true...
Edited by Eagle, Jul 18 2014, 04:17:17 AM.
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Jul 17 2014, 02:49:02 PM
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Jul 17 2014, 02:23:28 PM
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Jul 17 2014, 11:47:32 AM
I don't know if Chico is quiet, if he is dead or whatever, but this thread is a ton of fun.
Glad you like it. It can get crazy sometimes.
The power of the sausage.
Farewell sausage... Chico's sausage...

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You too have known loss, and that loss torments you still. You hope hatred might someday replace the pain, but it never goes away.

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Jul 14 2014, 06:20:16 AM
More and more I find myself believing that Chico will be the hero of TPP. I mean, everything that happened with Paz was similar to The Boss, downright to the letter shaped scar on her body in which she had to perform a cesarian, something that even Kojima confirmed. Now, Paz was the most important person to Chico, so copying that V-shaped scar to mirror what Big Boss did with The Boss. It just makes so much sense.
And Paz did seemingly return his feelings, with the kiss and everything else.
I believe Kojima said that Big Boss will still have a bit of hero to him throughout the story, I mean yeah he will "become a demon", but as a means to take out the devil, this being Zero of course. He said that he still wanted the player to have a connection to the main character. So I would think Big Boss is still the hero of the game.

Secondly, I don't think Paz truly returned the feelings chico had for her. I think she just knew he had a hard on for her and decided to give him a parting gift so to speak. Since she thought that they were going to die.
Edited by ADAMska87, Jul 18 2014, 10:15:55 AM.
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The presence of Ismael and everything related to the hospital sequence scene obviously shows that MGS is now a biblical game. As such, I reckon Chico will be back, not as a character per se, but as an entity, namely, one of the seven sins. The sin of not having a sausage anymore.
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Did Chico cut off his sausage and jump out of a building screaming "im god" too?

What other biblical connections can you make with MGS V? All I got is Ishmael and the theory that Eli = Eliab who was supposed to be the king of Israel but got stepped over in inheritance by his younger brother David. Does Moby Dick use alot of religious stuff in it?
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Big Boss is basically Big Boss Christ. All his journey from MGS3 to Phantom Pain is his passion. He sacrifices himself so that every soldier in the world will always have a war to fight. And Chico is Judas, considering how he betrayed BB in Ground Zero, just so that skullface gives him the bread (paz), which is why he reincarnates as the deadly sin in phantom pain.
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Jul 18 2014, 10:15:20 AM
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Jul 14 2014, 06:20:16 AM
More and more I find myself believing that Chico will be the hero of TPP. I mean, everything that happened with Paz was similar to The Boss, downright to the letter shaped scar on her body in which she had to perform a cesarian, something that even Kojima confirmed. Now, Paz was the most important person to Chico, so copying that V-shaped scar to mirror what Big Boss did with The Boss. It just makes so much sense.
And Paz did seemingly return his feelings, with the kiss and everything else.
I believe Kojima said that Big Boss will still have a bit of hero to him throughout the story, I mean yeah he will "become a demon", but as a means to take out the devil, this being Zero of course. He said that he still wanted the player to have a connection to the main character. So I would think Big Boss is still the hero of the game.

Secondly, I don't think Paz truly returned the feelings chico had for her. I think she just knew he had a hard on for her and decided to give him a parting gift so to speak. Since she thought that they were going to die.
Well, it's not like my opinion is fact. Granted, I'm biased, but I personally truly believe Paz did return Chico's feelings.

But anyway, Kojima stated that Big Boss will start out an extreme anti-hero and become more and more of a villain/demon throughout the game. We're supposed to sympathize with Big Boss because of all the tragedy he's gone through to make him the way he is, but at the same time question and later on show that Big Boss is becoming, and by the end will be evil, with no excuse.
Edited by Eagle, Jul 18 2014, 03:40:29 PM.
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Jul 18 2014, 03:09:14 PM
Big Boss is basically Big Boss Christ. All his journey from MGS3 to Phantom Pain is his passion. He sacrifices himself so that every soldier in the world will always have a war to fight. And Chico is Judas, considering how he betrayed BB in Ground Zero, just so that skullface gives him the bread (paz), which is why he reincarnates as the deadly sin in phantom pain.
Chico is not Judas. Big Boss has been betrayed several times by several characters, such as the US government, Zero, Paz, and Chico in GZ. If anyone is going to be Judas, it will most likely be Kaz, since by Metal Gear 2, he and Big Boss are enemies. And Chico didn't betray Big Boss so that he could have Paz. He did it because he was emotionally and psychologically tortured into betrayal by being forced to watch (and possibly participate in) Paz's torture.

Metal Gear has always had religious allusions. That being said, I think the most religious heavy game was MGS3 with ADAM, EVA, Snake, and The Boss/The Joy (Christ). While MGSV won't be different, I think the Ishmael and Eli with be more a reference to Moby Dick rather than to religion. And if Big Boss is Christ, then why is Kojima making allusions to him being a demon by giving him a horn and a tail?
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Jul 18 2014, 03:40:49 AM
So no more crazy theories, like, I don't know, Chico is Ishmael, or Chico is Quiet, or Paz was pregnant? Come on guys, give me something except for "He's dead."
Even if she was pregnant the baby would've died in the explosion.

But here's one. Chico is dead but he blames big boss for paz ' s death and becomes a phantom of sorts in the horn. The horn drives into big boss's brain and Chico manages to begin driving him insane. Chico is the reason for Outer Heaven and Zanzibar because if he can't be happy no one can. Other children know life of warfare just like him. And of course revenge on skully.

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Jul 18 2014, 05:11:09 PM
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Jul 18 2014, 03:40:49 AM
So no more crazy theories, like, I don't know, Chico is Ishmael, or Chico is Quiet, or Paz was pregnant? Come on guys, give me something except for "He's dead."
Even if she was pregnant the baby would've died in the explosion.

But here's one. Chico is dead but he blames big boss for paz ' s death and becomes a phantom of sorts in the horn. The horn drives into big boss's brain and Chico manages to begin driving him insane. Chico is the reason for Outer Heaven and Zanzibar because if he can't be happy no one can. Other children know life of warfare just like him. And of course revenge on skully.
I love your theory black king. But yeah, I imagine that even if Paz was pregnant and the baby had somehow survived the surgery and the removal of the bomb, it would have died in the explosion. Unless Skull Face found the embryo, removed it from Paz, and later implanted it in a surrogate to raise the child and use it as leverage should Big Boss or Chico survive.

But I believe the Chico is Horn. Imagine-Chico is a combination of The Sorrow and Obito.

Big Boss-Chico, why are you doing this to me?

Chico-Because you let Paz die!
Edited by Eagle, Jul 18 2014, 05:47:36 PM.
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I can't believe this lol.
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Jul 18 2014, 05:41:54 PM
I can't believe this lol.
Which part; that we can come up with such crazy theories as Chico is Quiet, Paz's baby, or that we are actually having a conversation about this? This is an MGS forum, crazy talk always happens. LOL.
Edited by Eagle, Aug 13 2014, 12:27:03 AM.
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BB: "Chico, get out of my head!"
Kaz: "Boss what's wrong?!"
BB: "It's Chico, I think he is in my head, and is trying to communicate to me through this shrapnel"
Kaz: "Lol, stfu BB"
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Jul 18 2014, 05:50:06 PM
BB: "Chico, get out of my head!"
Kaz: "Boss what's wrong?!"
BB: "It's Chico, I think he is in my head, and is trying to communicate to me through this shrapnel"
Kaz: "Lol, stfu BB"
Chico-In this world, both the ones who give and the ones who are given, all inevitably become traitors. You and I are fine examples, Boss.
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Jul 18 2014, 05:50:06 PM
BB: "Chico, get out of my head!"
Kaz: "Boss what's wrong?!"
BB: "It's Chico, I think he is in my head, and is trying to communicate to me through this shrapnel"
Kaz: "Lol, stfu BB"
Kaz: that's crazy dude. *horn grows and Big Boss yells super sayian style* holy crap!!!

Kiev will be so happy I made his offhand comment into something.

But I don't see paz having a kid. Or chico.

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Jul 18 2014, 06:24:05 PM
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Jul 18 2014, 05:50:06 PM
BB: "Chico, get out of my head!"
Kaz: "Boss what's wrong?!"
BB: "It's Chico, I think he is in my head, and is trying to communicate to me through this shrapnel"
Kaz: "Lol, stfu BB"
Kaz: that's crazy dude. *horn grows and Big Boss yells super sayian style* holy crap!!!

Kiev will be so happy I made his offhand comment into something.

But I don't see paz having a kid. Or chico.
Know we know why Big Boss was screaming with all that blood in his face.

Chico-I will haunt you for the rest of your life until you get here.
Big Boss-Goddamit, I should've checked for a second bomb.

The Paz and Chico having a baby was a joke that I saw someone theorize on Neogaf and a joke on this forum that Paz might've been pregnant. Honestly, I doubt that they will ever have kids (With Paz's case, it's a bit too late). Though I would find it adorable, and somewhat creepy, if they did. But yeah, that's not happening.

P.S. Who's Kiev?
Edited by Eagle, Aug 13 2014, 12:28:41 AM.
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