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| Chico in TPP (Ground Zeroes Spoilers) | |
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| Eagle | May 31 2014, 01:18:28 AM Post #101 |
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The kind of kid that is in love and is already, unfortunately, a "soldier". He's already seen people die in front of him, such as his father. He believes that it's his duty to save Paz since he failed to stop her from hijacking ZEKE. Plus, with the way people were acting, he must have believed that they would have left Paz to die in the camp or killed her themselves. Edited by Eagle, May 31 2014, 08:08:46 AM.
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| DrEdArgon | May 31 2014, 01:22:56 AM Post #102 |
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Keep in mind that Chico isn't soldier, have proper training for it and/or is blind because he is making judgement calls by his emotions alone instead of his COs orders / plan. And there's many other stories where soldiers disregard orders and let their emotions control them. MGS just did little better job at it than most of them. |
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| Trigsby | May 31 2014, 02:12:31 AM Post #103 |
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All valid points, I see what ya saying, he definitely isn't a normal 13 year old. It's just the fact that he thought he could actually pull off rescuing Paz, silly boy, this is real deal shit. |
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| Eagle | May 31 2014, 02:38:40 AM Post #104 |
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Based on what happened, it was either that or let Paz die in the camp or have Snake kill her. Considering that Snake was open to the idea of killing Paz, Chico wasn't that off. |
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| Vic Vinegar | May 31 2014, 03:36:14 AM Post #105 |
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Annoyance is a common emotion triggered by the presence of a kid in any work. In the case of Chico, it's pretty irrational. There's really nothing about him to warrant some of the hate I've seen on these forums. Sure, go ahead and argue he's too bland or underdeveloped (and here's hoping this changes in TPP), but do his actions and characterization really warrant accusations of being a goddamn annoying fuck-up? I mean, yeah, he was a hothead for infiltrating Camp Omega, but come oooooooooooooooooooonnn, he's just a kid. In wuv.
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| Eagle | May 31 2014, 04:59:17 AM Post #106 |
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Thank you. Apparently Chico acting like a kid, which he is, is reason to hate the character. Especially when you're a kid that's in love with a girl that is stuck being tortured at a military prison. Even if what he did is stupid, it shows that he is brave and cares for his comrades. Especially Paz. Edited by Eagle, May 31 2014, 04:59:53 AM.
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| Bladewolf | May 31 2014, 06:13:46 AM Post #107 |
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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In MGR, George in his 5 minutes on screen, showed bigger balls of steel and bravery than Chico in his pathetic life so far, never cried, and the kid was just a street child not a ''child soldier''. He is a real men, and gonna get Sunny's sweet ass in the future. |
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| bigbossbalrog | May 31 2014, 06:24:55 AM Post #108 |
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Yeah there's difference between turned into a robot by whose essentially a mustache twirling cartoon villian, then being physiologically ravaged, physical brutalized by Paramillitary/Marine Corp personnel in a relatively realistic CIA Blacksite. Chico is a pussy I agree, but George is just...a really stupid character. |
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| Bladewolf | May 31 2014, 06:33:05 AM Post #109 |
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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George IS a stupid character, that is the sad thing, a stupid character that was willing to be cut in half to save others after escaping from a ilegal CYBORG GUARDED (you know those who can turn fleshy people into red mist) laboratory harvesting poor third world child's brains to create war machines and yet he comes out looking more brave than Chico. Chico is just a shit and annoying character. Edited by Bladewolf, May 31 2014, 06:37:42 AM.
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| Revolver_FOX | May 31 2014, 06:38:40 AM Post #110 |
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^ Eagle will not appreciate / enjoy you're opinion. |
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| bigbossbalrog | May 31 2014, 06:40:13 AM Post #111 |
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He's far more realistic. Any kid in real life would break under all the pain, suffering, and pressure he went through. George: "Look at dat ass sunny." Chico (Starts sobbing uncontrollably) "I'm sorry...i'm sorry...i'm sorry..." Far more sympathetic/ |
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| Bladewolf | May 31 2014, 07:01:19 AM Post #112 |
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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I get you point, Chico is far from a hard ass poor kid. Chico was a well dressed, alimented, and clean ''child soldier'' with a family and people who cared about him, unlike George. Honestly Kojima should have make him just a random kid that Big Boss finds in the PW incident instead of a child soldier, he come across as a fake little shit compared to the cruel child soldier life. |
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| Eagle | May 31 2014, 07:11:52 AM Post #113 |
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You got that right. So where shall I start with the arguments.
How? Because he told Raiden to cut through him? If that is the case, let's remember Chico, along with the rest of the Sandinistas, saved Big Boss and he repeatedly told Skull Face to torture him instead of Paz. Chico only gave in after Skull Face psychologically and emotionally destroyed the kid. If George went through that, I'm pretty sure he would be no better that Chico.
Actually, Chico suffered from malnourishment and he had people trying to kill him and was tortured. Granted, not the worst of child soldier life, but far from a comfortable life.
Exactly. The situation is to be far more realistic. Any kid would break under what Chico went through. Including George.
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| Bladewolf | May 31 2014, 07:22:14 AM Post #114 |
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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Of course not, he is not even a soldier he is just a street kid, just show how brave he is, he is ALONE dealing with a Cyborg PMC and droids instead of some fleshy goons from the 70s. And Chico dont do anything useful in the PW incident, in fact he was the one who almost blew it. He is, like most of PW cast, useless. Edited by Bladewolf, May 31 2014, 07:23:21 AM.
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| Eagle | May 31 2014, 07:59:11 AM Post #115 |
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Chico isn't a soldier either. He is living the life of a soldier, but he isn't a soldier. And how did Chico almost blow it in PW? Also, these aren't just some fleshy goons. They're trained agents of Cipher who expertise in all kinds of torture. Edited by Eagle, May 31 2014, 08:06:46 AM.
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| Trigsby | May 31 2014, 03:08:50 PM Post #116 |
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Eagle continues to make good arguments, but the fact remains..Chico to me, is just a little tedious and annoying to watch.
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| Crimson Rex | May 31 2014, 03:58:02 PM Post #117 |
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Can you blame him? Paz is pretty damn adorable. |
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| Eagle | May 31 2014, 04:37:18 PM Post #118 |
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That I can accept. You personally not liking the character. Each person has their own taste. Edited by Eagle, Jun 1 2014, 10:27:27 PM.
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| AbudJasemAlBaldawi | May 31 2014, 04:56:10 PM Post #119 |
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I don't really mind Chico. He's not necessarily a great character, but there's really nothing I found to hate him for. Now that he's been built up in GZ, though, I believe he has great potential. |
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| Eagle | May 31 2014, 09:42:20 PM Post #120 |
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I love Chico. I see so much of myself in him. Also, I love when there are these sudden time skips in stories. The children are always the ones that have the most potential as they have grown, changed and matured. Here's hoping Chico has grown quite a lot. For Paz, Chico...for Paz... Edited by Eagle, May 31 2014, 09:42:58 PM.
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