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Boss Battles in TPP
Topic Started: Mar 22 2014, 04:56:43 PM (1,716 Views)
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Unlike GZ, we'll have this again:

http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=13490
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Was this not extremely obvious from the start?
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yeah it was. those who don't exist have already at least partially been seen in action in-game, namely pyro volgin. but we're pretty likely to get a round or two with skull face and maybe even quiet and some extra ops bad guys too.
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Mar 23 2014, 03:31:37 AM
Was this not extremely obvious from the start?
Apparently not. Though some people still think that Phantom Pain coming to PS3/360 still needs to be confirmed even though they've already said it was cross gen, several times, and have said nothing to suggest otherwise.
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this is a relief. i was thinking wed be stuck fighting the same 3 tanks/helicopters again :)
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Mar 23 2014, 05:24:35 AM
this is a relief. i was thinking wed be stuck fighting the same 3 tanks/helicopters again :)
Unfortunately, the article doesn't say anything about human bosses. I loved Peace Walker, but you never got to engage a real human threat in glorious combat. That really bummed me out.

The article mentions that you don't have to fight bosses depending on what path you take. That's also a little worrisome. This kind of suggests a "choose your own adventure" approach. If that's true, large portions of the story will never be canon :hmm:
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Mar 23 2014, 07:08:31 AM
The article mentions that you don't have to fight bosses depending on what path you take. That's also a little worrisome. This kind of suggests a "choose your own adventure" approach. If that's true, large portions of the story will never be canon :hmm:
And how is this a problem? In MGS3 you could kill The End hours before his boss battle to avoid the fight entirely, I don't remember anyone complaining about having the option to do that.

Besides, they already did something like this with MGS1 with the Otacon or Meryl ending, but the canon ending was still the one where Meryl lives. Just because the game allows the player to choose how some parts of the story play out, doesn't mean that they already have a set continuity for it.

Besides, being able to impact the story based on your decisions made in the game gives plenty of replay value, and that's really never a bad thing at all.
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GarlicJockey
Mar 23 2014, 07:08:31 AM
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Mar 23 2014, 05:24:35 AM
this is a relief. i was thinking wed be stuck fighting the same 3 tanks/helicopters again :)
Unfortunately, the article doesn't say anything about human bosses.
4:01 - horseback chase with volgin


and let's not forget team zombie bane. i'm willing to bet they aren't just hopping from the sky to the ground in a sand storm just so you can't fight them, amirite?

@the article makes bosses sound similar to that of burke from hr or almost every boss in deus ex 1, and everyone praised that shit. i'm sure there will be those unavoidable battles, but multiple path isn't something i'm opposed to tbh.
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I hope the canon will be fighting all the bosses and leaving everyone alive until they (potentially) inevitably die.
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Mar 23 2014, 07:39:13 AM
horseback chase with volgin

and let's not forget team zombie bane. i'm willing to bet they aren't just hopping from the sky to the ground in a sand storm just so you can't fight them, amirite?
Does the horseback chase really count as a boss battle? It's an on rails shooting segment like running from Liquid in the Jeep or riding in Eva's sidecar.

Team Zombie Bane don't seem like good candidates for boss material, either. They seem more akin to the usual "first firefight" event every game has had (Teaching Meryl to shoot, the Tanker ambush, Ocelot Unit, The FROG).

I'm talking about the classic mono-e-mono boss battles we know and love. The kind that challenge your brain more than your aim. How do you even design those fights for an open environment? Every boss in the series has taken place in a closed arena specifically built for that engagement.
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Mar 23 2014, 09:46:01 AM
Does the horseback chase really count as a boss battle? It's an on rails shooting segment like running from Liquid in the Jeep or riding in Eva's sidecar.
there are scenes of volgin flame stripping to his sneaking suit inside the hospital, which leads me to belize that his battle is like in mgs, one that has multiple forms, like taking him and his fire on in the hospital, and chasing him in the woods. similar to battling him in the hanger and escaping his shagohod with eva.
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Team Zombie Bane don't seem like good candidates for boss material, either. They seem more akin to the usual "first firefight" event every game has had (Teaching Meryl to shoot, the Tanker ambush, Ocelot Unit, The FROG).

for all we know, they could be a swarm boss like r'as al ghul in arkham city, and worst case scenario, they're the frog unit, but if their powers are unique and trippy enough, it's still a hell of a step up from the tanks and sentinels of pw.

those who don't exist are likely along the lines of cobra and b&b while guys like skull face, quiet and god knows who else are the real enemies you can take on mono-e-mono.
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I'm talking about the classic mono-e-mono boss battles we know and love. The kind that challenge your brain more than your aim.
okay, let's just be up front; not a single mgs boss has ever challenged our brains. the only one that will ever come remotely close to doing that was the end, or the boss.
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How do you even design those fights for an open environment? Every boss in the series has taken place in a closed arena specifically built for that engagement.

open world makes a sniper battle even better.
being able to scale mountains or hunt your enemy down in the woods while you both seek each other out.
vehicle vs vehicle.
an open world shootout where you and your enemy have an entire set playing field to take each other on

i mean, odds are, situations will lead to parts being closed off to some extent during boss fights, but the idea of an open world boss certainly isn't too farfetched, and if it means we get layered, constantly evolving boss fights like in revengeance, then all the better.
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Oh look, a tank to fight...Screw it, not worth fighting for
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Mar 23 2014, 09:46:01 AM
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Mar 23 2014, 07:39:13 AM
horseback chase with volgin

and let's not forget team zombie bane. i'm willing to bet they aren't just hopping from the sky to the ground in a sand storm just so you can't fight them, amirite?
Does the horseback chase really count as a boss battle? It's an on rails shooting segment like running from Liquid in the Jeep or riding in Eva's sidecar.

Team Zombie Bane don't seem like good candidates for boss material, either. They seem more akin to the usual "first firefight" event every game has had (Teaching Meryl to shoot, the Tanker ambush, Ocelot Unit, The FROG).

I'm talking about the classic mono-e-mono boss battles we know and love. The kind that challenge your brain more than your aim. How do you even design those fights for an open environment? Every boss in the series has taken place in a closed arena specifically built for that engagement.

Don't you mean mano-a-mano ?
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I suppose fighting different ranks of XOF soldiers will be like fighting the Ocelot unit from MGS3. Standard enemies but better than the guards.
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The main Boss Fight I want is a Sniper battle similar to The End, but in a more open terrain, looking at Snake travel in the open terrain of Afghanistan in the Phantom Pain trailer, a map as versatile as that would be amazing. But after playing Ground Zeroes and the poor draw-distance on the PS3 version... I can't see it sadly
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Well... yeah.

It wouldn't really be an MGS game without it's iconic boss fights.
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Mar 24 2014, 01:07:46 AM
Well... yeah.

It wouldn't really be an MGS game without it's iconic boss fights.
PW was.
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Mar 24 2014, 01:23:48 AM
Hipi07
Mar 24 2014, 01:07:46 AM
Well... yeah.

It wouldn't really be an MGS game without it's iconic boss fights.
PW was.
What do you mean?

You had the AI's, Peace Walker then Paz/ZEKE.

And then all the vehicle mini bosses.
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Mar 24 2014, 01:36:59 AM
And then all the vehicle mini bosses.
Exactly.
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I don't see boss fights without a health bar being that great. You either get killed instantly by their one shot attacks or you just heal up back to full instantly and keep trying not to get hit.
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