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| PythonselkanHD Last theory. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 28 2014, 05:35:22 PM (4,860 Views) | |
| Risev | May 4 2014, 01:32:58 AM Post #61 |
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Yeah, I know where you're coming from. I'm just saying that even though the game looks fantastic graphically, shadows having no hair are the least of the technical problems in the Fox Engine. |
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| Vergil | May 4 2014, 06:02:11 AM Post #62 |
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Honestly until I see TPP I'm not super impressed with the Fox engine. It looks nice but it still suffers the usual issues . Clipping, Artifacts with closeups on grass, some weird texture, etc. |
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| BatouYukinawa | May 4 2014, 07:33:37 AM Post #63 |
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Graphically GZ looks way better then MGS4. But Uncharted, or Last of Us looks way better. Course you could argue those are not open world games. |
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| ballisticola | May 4 2014, 01:43:09 PM Post #64 |
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Does it have to be spelled out again? GZ is a port. They're not going to go through the game's code and change the lighting. All they've done turned on the AA and upped the resolution. Lighting is hardwired into the gameplay, they can't just go changing it because the PS4 should be doing better. |
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| (SGR) SEAN | May 4 2014, 02:21:16 PM Post #65 |
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You will see the fox engines true power once they make a game exclusively for current gen. Hell even now it looks pretty amazing the way it is. |
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| Oblivious | May 4 2014, 06:33:18 PM Post #66 |
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If you're saying that, clearly you don't know what an engine is or what is it made for. Edited by Oblivious, May 4 2014, 06:44:11 PM.
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| ballisticola | May 5 2014, 12:20:28 AM Post #67 |
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If that's your reply, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. You don't just hit a switch and hey presto better lighting. |
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| BatouYukinawa | May 5 2014, 02:40:16 AM Post #68 |
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Right! The Fox engine was developed with PS3 in mind. Basically think of SE on PS3 in HD, but with updated textures, and 60fps. You can't just add something to the engine though, you could only modify what was already there. If they didn't implement real time shadow rendering into the engine in the first place; there's really very little they can do. They'd have to build a modified version of the Fox engine. If you look at GZ and TPP as a last gen game, it's actually quite impressive! If you look at the FOX engine in terms of current gen, it's not as impressive. |
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| Vergil | May 5 2014, 02:43:06 AM Post #69 |
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How does that go against anything he just said? |
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| BatouYukinawa | May 5 2014, 03:29:53 AM Post #70 |
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It doesn't. I was backing him on his statement. I'm sorry, are you only supposed to post if you don't agree?
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| Vergil | May 5 2014, 03:40:39 AM Post #71 |
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My mistake. Both you and the person he was arguing with do not have user pictures. Got confused. Sorry about the mix up. |
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| BatouYukinawa | May 5 2014, 10:25:57 AM Post #72 |
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NO worries, I used to have a pic, and my own banner back in the day, but I just recently began posting on these forums again. |
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| ballisticola | May 5 2014, 01:07:23 PM Post #73 |
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No, what I mean is the GAME was developed for the PS3/360. The engine is multiplatform. And it's the things in game - that use the lighting - that are tied to the game that can't just be changed. If this were a tech demo to show lighting then they could change it, but it's not, it's a whole system with many things reliant on each other. It's like changing an animal in a ecosystem and expecting it to not effect anything else. |
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| Acid Boss | May 5 2014, 02:25:11 PM Post #74 |
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yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. The Fox Engine was designed for multiplatform and for future generations, not just the last one. MGSV is being created on a dev machine with Xbox 360/PS3 specs, not the current gen specs. I sum up a lot of the issues with the Fox Engine to that, and would expect a more polished game if it were to be built on current gen specs. Edited by Acid Boss, May 5 2014, 02:26:05 PM.
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| Vergil | May 5 2014, 10:24:14 PM Post #75 |
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So by last theory in the title of this thread does that mean they are stopping their theories now? |
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| Risev | May 5 2014, 11:56:54 PM Post #76 |
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I think thread creator meant "latest" theory. |
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| Oblivious | May 6 2014, 12:02:57 AM Post #77 |
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Your fox engine assumptions make developers in heaven cry. |
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| ballisticola | May 6 2014, 01:24:25 AM Post #78 |
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Yes, because it's not an assumption to say the bald shadows are because the engine can't render them? Why is it an assumption that they would cut corners for an aging generation. Why doesn't the PS3 version have the completely different sky of the PS4 version? Because it can't handle it. Now, how do you suppose this inept engine can handle it? This is Rockstar's RAGE all over again. Many said it was dated with GTA4, yet managed to pull off incredible graphics on the same hardware. |
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| BatouYukinawa | May 6 2014, 02:17:47 AM Post #79 |
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So I just re-watched the interview with Kojima at GDC last year, and I clearly states that Snake will be the only character you play in TPP, and further added "haha, no Raiden". I think this pretty much puts the final nail in the Hayter hopefuls coffin. Kojima is rebooting MGS essentially. Makes sense to change Snake's voice over. It's also why they switched to V instead of 5 remember? We are BB, no Grey Fox, no Solidus, and no one else but Big Boss. |
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| Vergil | May 6 2014, 02:21:14 AM Post #80 |
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I'm sure people will still say "butt Kojimur da masur toiller. lol Xdd,,, lol121" |
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