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TPP Current and Next GEN?
Topic Started: May 1 2014, 03:11:10 AM (1,706 Views)
Letho
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May 1 2014, 01:06:35 PM
JackDaRipper
May 1 2014, 01:02:01 PM
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May 1 2014, 12:50:08 PM
By the time TPP comes out the PS3 and 360 will be outdated
They have been outdated for quite a few years already.
Thats not really true. When you look at games like GTA V which push the consoles to their limits you see there was still a bit of life left in them. In a years time though last gen versions of games will basically just be downgraded versions since a lot of players will be starting to switch over to current gen consoles and they will be developer's main focus. Certain developers will of course keep making last gen games for years to come to cater to the younger market like EA did with their sports titles on the PS2 and even PSP for a while.
There have been some pretty nasty limitations still, especially when it comes to ram. This especially limits how big levels you can create and how many objects/effects you can have on screen at a time. Or how fast pedestrians disappear etc. No wonder the majority of the big budget blockbuster console games have been so linear.

But no worries anymore though. Sony & MS learned their lesson.
Edited by Letho, May 1 2014, 01:31:23 PM.
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GarlicJockey
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Threads like this should be locked.

Yes. The game is coming out on both old-gen and new-gen. This was confirmed over a year ago. There is absolutely no reason to believe otherwise.
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BatouYukinawa
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I don't know. I like to see what a talented team can do with constraints. It's like watching a two piece band. Because they have less to work with, they at times can come with some very innovative music alla "The Kills".
I think developers honestly need to stop thinking more power = next gen. No it doesn't. Look at Peace Walker.
It was developed for PSP, and IMO a serious improvement on MGS4 aside the graphics. So we are learning
new hardware, does not mean next gen. It means prettier graphics. Next gen only comes when we experience
something new, and impossible to do with last gen hardware.

I think the same goes for any medium. Give any artist to much to work with, and you get a superfluous product.
I'm all for PS3 exclusive, and later on port to PS4. No Xbox tho. Sorryguys. MGS has no business being on an American console.
Edited by BatouYukinawa, May 1 2014, 06:25:53 PM.
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BatouYukinawa
May 1 2014, 06:24:57 PM
I don't know. I like to see what a talented team can do with constraints. It's like watching a two piece band. Because they have less to work with, they at times can come with some very innovative music alla "The Kills".
I think developers honestly need to stop thinking more power = next gen. No it doesn't. Look at Peace Walker.
It was developed for PSP, and IMO a serious improvement on MGS4 aside the graphics. So we are learning
new hardware, does not mean next gen. It means prettier graphics. Next gen only comes when we experience
something new, and impossible to do with last gen hardware.

I think the same goes for any medium. Give any artist to much to work with, and you get a superfluous product.
I'm all for PS3 exclusive, and later on port to PS4. No Xbox tho. Sorryguys. MGS has no business being on an American console.
You can take PW in two ways Batou,

PW was an advancement in ... not much to be honest.

Adding an RPG element to the MGS series, base building, co-op. I'm not sure I'm missing anything else.

It went backwards in terms of a shit load though, Controls, Graphics, Sound, Voice Acting. So serious improvement I beg to differ on a large scale..
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I wish they would just make it exclusive to current gen systems.
Trying to add support for both Last and current gen is just going to create a sub par Last gen experience and a current gen experience thats held back because of compensation for last gen.
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A true MGS fan wouldn't settle for the least experience. He takes it to the maximum.
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May 1 2014, 06:59:37 PM
A true MGS fan wouldn't settle for the least experience. He takes it to the maximum.
A true MGS fan settles for whatever the hell Kojima releases in a gold state.. cause you ain't getting any better till the next game.

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big_boss1988
May 1 2014, 06:59:37 PM
A true MGS fan wouldn't settle for the least experience. He takes it to the maximum.
A true "ENTER THING HERE" fan isn't a thing that exists.
We are all different people who take the media in different ways.

Anyways plenty of fans have settle for the least experience, just look at MGS4.
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Constraints = better work is a very superficial concept and time and time again we've seen its not a rule, far from it and it just seems like a lame excuse to restrict a game from going on the new consoles. PW was a step backwards in most ways, even the RPG elements, one of the good ideas the game had bad execution.
PW was a game with good/great ideas that had bad execution. Not a step up from MGS4, not by a long shot.
Also, lol, so just because XBox is American it shouldn't be on there? what kind of Japanese elitist bullshit is this?
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May 1 2014, 07:04:31 PM
Constraints = better work is a very superficial concept and time and time again we've seen its not a rule, far from it and it just seems like a lame excuse to restrict a game from going on the new consoles. PW was a step backwards in most ways, even the RPG elements, one of the good ideas the game had bad execution.
PW was a game with good/great ideas that had bad execution. Not a step up from MGS4, not by a long shot.
Also, lol, so just because XBox is American it shouldn't be on there? what kind of Japanese elitist bullshit is this?
I don't really get the general hatred of the idea of a MGS game not exclusive to Playstation.
MGS2, 3, Rising and Peacewalker are on the Xbox.
Twin Snakes was on GameCube and there were Metal Gear games on the gameboy.
The series started out on the MSX which was made by Microsoft.
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May 1 2014, 07:04:31 PM
Constraints = better work is a very superficial concept and time and time again we've seen its not a rule, far from it and it just seems like a lame excuse to restrict a game from going on the new consoles. PW was a step backwards in most ways, even the RPG elements, one of the good ideas the game had bad execution.
PW was a game with good/great ideas that had bad execution. Not a step up from MGS4, not by a long shot.
Also, lol, so just because XBox is American it shouldn't be on there? what kind of Japanese elitist bullshit is this?
comparing MGS4 to Peace Walker is dumb because the PS3 is MUCH more powerful than PSP. A more fair comparison would be Peace Walker to Portable Ops, and IMO Peace Walker outshines Portable Ops in damn near everything (except crawling and, for you PW haters, story).
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May 1 2014, 07:22:33 PM
Max Payne
May 1 2014, 07:04:31 PM
Constraints = better work is a very superficial concept and time and time again we've seen its not a rule, far from it and it just seems like a lame excuse to restrict a game from going on the new consoles. PW was a step backwards in most ways, even the RPG elements, one of the good ideas the game had bad execution.
PW was a game with good/great ideas that had bad execution. Not a step up from MGS4, not by a long shot.
Also, lol, so just because XBox is American it shouldn't be on there? what kind of Japanese elitist bullshit is this?
comparing MGS4 to Peace Walker is dumb because the PS3 is MUCH more powerful than PSP. A more fair comparison would be Peace Walker to Portable Ops, and IMO Peace Walker outshines Portable Ops in damn near everything (except crawling and, for you PW haters, story).
Of course it does, we're comparing the scale of PW to MGS4 because they are essentially taking all of the extra features in PW and integrating them into TPP, therefore it's like PW meets MGS4, but on such a better scale because MGS4 was a huge disappointment.
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May 1 2014, 07:22:33 PM
1. Comparing MGS4 to Peace Walker is dumb because the PS3 is MUCH more powerful than PSP.

2. A more fair comparison would be Peace Walker to Portable Ops,

3. and IMO Peace Walker outshines Portable Ops in damn near everything (except crawling and, for you PW haters, story).
1. So comparing MGS1 to 2 is unfair
MGS3 to MGS4
MGSPW to 2,3, and 4.
PO to all of them.

The power of the PSP V. PS3 doesn't matter in this argument.
The team who made PW was the same who made MGS4.

2. But PO uses MGS3's engine so I guess it's an unfair comparison \_(:/)_/

3. this is an argument for another time and another thread altogether.
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in terms of scale, no way Jose MGS4 so far has been the biggest scale of all the MG games (which just adds to the disappointment)
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The only thing PW has over PO is updated control scheme. Everything else is inferior to portable ops imo.
Heck even the faceless playable soldiers are diferent each other in po, PW has the same playable grunt for anything
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Lets please not drag the PO Vs. PW in this completely unrelated thread.
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May 1 2014, 07:30:55 PM
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May 1 2014, 07:22:33 PM
1. Comparing MGS4 to Peace Walker is dumb because the PS3 is MUCH more powerful than PSP.

2. A more fair comparison would be Peace Walker to Portable Ops,

3. and IMO Peace Walker outshines Portable Ops in damn near everything (except crawling and, for you PW haters, story).
1. So comparing MGS1 to 2 is unfair
MGS3 to MGS4
MGSPW to 2,3, and 4.
PO to all of them.

The power of the PSP V. PS3 doesn't matter in this argument.
The team who made PW was the same who made MGS4.

2. But PO uses MGS3's engine so I guess it's an unfair comparison \_(:/)_/

3. this is an argument for another time and another thread altogether.
1 well yes to all except MGS2 to MGS3 and PO to all

2 Peace Walker use a heavily modified version of the Portable Ops engine, which in itself was ported from MGO1
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Moving back to the topic at hand...

It's still stated to this day that MGSV: TPP will be released for PS3, Xbox 360, PS4, and Xbox One.
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Yeah and I don't really think that this will change. Unless the next trailer announces that they're ditching previous-gen, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
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May 1 2014, 07:36:39 PM
MGSV: TPP will be released for PS3, Xbox 360, PS4, and Xbox One.
How would the multiplayer run? I don't get it :unsure: just curious
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