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The Prisoner and Big Boss
Topic Started: May 6 2014, 04:16:35 AM (1,398 Views)
acidicliquid
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Anyone think they're the same person?

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Heisenberg
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I hate to spoil it for you, but Big Boss didn't die until 2014 Lol.
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I thought the prisoner was Chico because they havd similar looking chest scars. Then again, I'm drawing it too strong.
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TheDankSnake
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I wonder if this scene was removed in GZ or awaiting us in TPP? What do you guys think?
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LeonD87
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I read somwere, that the camp, was only a part of GZ and will not return in TPP. So, i think it's a deleted scene
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BatouYukinawa
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How would you go back to the base? It get's blown sky high at the end of the last extra op. At first I thought
the extra op's were not apart of the main story, but there are mentions of Phantoms from the "Eye" and the
"Finger", and also other references in each extra op which leads me to believe they are somewhat
apart of the main plot. I don't know, what do y'all think?
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They are psuedo-canon, just like Portable Ops.
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BatouYukinawa
May 6 2014, 08:08:11 AM
How would you go back to the base? It get's blown sky high at the end of the last extra op. At first I thought
the extra op's were not apart of the main story, but there are mentions of Phantoms from the "Eye" and the
"Finger", and also other references in each extra op which leads me to believe they are somewhat
apart of the main plot. I don't know, what do y'all think?
The fact that the "destroy anti air mission" happened 2 months prior to the main Ground Zeroes mission is enough to prove that it isn't really canon. I think that the only things which are canon in those side-ops are the tapes you get, and the fact that these tapes were placed in not-so-canon missions is for gameplay reasons.
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The other two missions do seem canon, at least they don't interfere with the canon. Destroy The Anti Air Emplacements and Intel Operative Rescue don't seem canon, at least not entirely. The latter was a full scale assault on the base to save Kojima, and the former's ending can't be canon, but the MSF prisoner rescue probably was.
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May 6 2014, 09:14:46 AM
The other two missions do seem canon, at least they don't interfere with the canon. Destroy The Anti Air Emplacements and Intel Operative Rescue don't seem canon, at least not entirely. The latter was a full scale assault on the base to save Kojima, and the former's ending can't be canon, but the MSF prisoner rescue probably was.
I very much doubt that any of the side-ops are canon in the sense that Big Boss went there prior to the Ground Zeroes mission. This is evident by the fact that he does not know about the base itself before Kaz explains it to him in the mission briefing tapes, which are just a week or two before the mission. All the side-ops take place way before that, so obviously it can't be that Big Boss went there once or twice, and then forgot all about camp omega.
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True. Hence why its pseudo-canon, its possible they just happened elsewhere or the missions were actually carried out by MSF soldiers.
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What I got from it is it's the sort of things MSF does, but it didn't actually happen on Camp Omega.
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acidicliquid
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May 6 2014, 04:27:28 AM
I hate to spoil it for you, but Big Boss didn't die until 2014 Lol.
Yes...in Metal Gear Solid 4...for like the 3rd time...

But with Skullfaces tape on torturing to the point of basically death, but revenge fueling that last thread of survival and escaping death on for revenge...like skullface and what he had hope his torturing would accomplish. But it sounded like the prisoner died, to his disappointment. Was just a thought that was interesting though lol. It's not like its for sure that the prisoner died.

As for Camp Omega only being part of GZ, wasn't that only in response to being asked if it would be playable? It may not be playable in TPP but what if there is a flashback or cutscene related to this prisoner scene? would be cool haha.

Again, i'm just speculating based on something that was cool to discuss with you guys :D
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I think this scene awaits us in TPP, similar to the "Boss looking over MSF wreckage with puppy eyes."
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The side ops are canon, they are pseudo historical recreations, they did happen but not on camp omega.

Safe to say the side ops actually happened on random black sites similar to camp omega.

The only missions that are not canon are the extra ops.
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To be fair, we really don't know what the "pseudo recreation" implies.

We know it definitely didn't occur on Omega. And to say they actually occurred elsewhere when we know Kojima is just a fun teaser is a stretch. If anything, it truly is a recreation of previous events from a previous location.
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Yeah, for some reason I don't really see the mission where you save Kojima as canon.. just sayin... :cool:
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May 6 2014, 01:27:12 PM
To be fair, we really don't know what the "pseudo recreation" implies.

We know it definitely didn't occur on Omega. And to say they actually occurred elsewhere when we know Kojima is just a fun teaser is a stretch. If anything, it truly is a recreation of previous events from a previous location.
This is what I assume. Like it happened, but somewhere else. You're just playing a recreation of events already occrued
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May 6 2014, 02:43:12 PM
Yeah, for some reason I don't really see the mission where you save Kojima as canon.. just sayin... :cool:
Why? Kojima is indeed an MSF soldier that could be assigned to the intel team or medical team. didn't you recruit him on Peace Walker? :P
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