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The Prisoner and Big Boss
Topic Started: May 6 2014, 04:16:35 AM (1,397 Views)
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I clearly haven't woken up just yet.. :D
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May 6 2014, 04:16:35 AM
Anyone think they're the same person?

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May 6 2014, 03:11:40 PM
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May 6 2014, 02:43:12 PM
Yeah, for some reason I don't really see the mission where you save Kojima as canon.. just sayin... :cool:
Why? Kojima is indeed an MSF soldier that could be assigned to the intel team or medical team. didn't you recruit him on Peace Walker? :P
Its not the fact that Kojima's in it that makes it non-canon, its the fact that you basically neutralized half of Camp Omega, qnd yet by Ground Zeroes they all act as if nothing ever happened.
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May 6 2014, 05:11:27 PM
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May 6 2014, 03:11:40 PM
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May 6 2014, 02:43:12 PM
Yeah, for some reason I don't really see the mission where you save Kojima as canon.. just sayin... :cool:
Why? Kojima is indeed an MSF soldier that could be assigned to the intel team or medical team. didn't you recruit him on Peace Walker? :P
Its not the fact that Kojima's in it that makes it non-canon, its the fact that you basically neutralized half of Camp Omega, qnd yet by Ground Zeroes they all act as if nothing ever happened.
Because it didnt happen at camp omega.
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That prisoner is the same prisoner from one of GZ's Side Ops. It was mentioned in a previous thread in this forum.
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May 6 2014, 07:07:49 PM
That prisoner is the same prisoner from one of GZ's Side Ops. It was mentioned in a previous thread in this forum.
Came in to say this...well at least they share the same prisoner number
I think the scene was originally in one of the side ops til they decided that rescuing him could be an option
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No, that makes no sense.
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Oh shit! We're playing those missions because it's all VR! They are recreations of actual missions
that happened in the MGS time line. OMG, Spoiler alert...
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What the... Are you guys actually discussing this? Jesus Christ...
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May 6 2014, 09:14:46 AM
The other two missions do seem canon, at least they don't interfere with the canon. Destroy The Anti Air Emplacements and Intel Operative Rescue don't seem canon, at least not entirely. The latter was a full scale assault on the base to save Kojima, and the former's ending can't be canon, but the MSF prisoner rescue probably was.
The only canon mission is Ground Zeroes. Everything else is for our enjoyment.

As for the prisoner scene? It was probably only in the trailer for dramatic purposes...I mean how important would it be to us that some random prisoner from some random place at Camp Omega gets shot in the back? Not very. He's obviously not there in the Ground Zeroes mission. He ded.
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May 7 2014, 05:40:21 AM
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May 6 2014, 09:14:46 AM
The other two missions do seem canon, at least they don't interfere with the canon. Destroy The Anti Air Emplacements and Intel Operative Rescue don't seem canon, at least not entirely. The latter was a full scale assault on the base to save Kojima, and the former's ending can't be canon, but the MSF prisoner rescue probably was.
The only canon mission is Ground Zeroes. Everything else is for our enjoyment.

As for the prisoner scene? It was probably only in the trailer for dramatic purposes...I mean how important would it be to us that some random prisoner from some random place at Camp Omega gets shot in the back? Not very. He's obviously not there in the Ground Zeroes mission. He ded.
Since the side ops add to the story unlike the extra ops, it leads me to believe they are canon.
Exept maybe the kojima one but he is technically a soldier in msf and he had high intel skill so... The mission has some weight to it. In all the other missions you find stuff that links back to zero and of skull face. They just happened in different areas and not in camp omega.
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The info you get is canon. The missions themselves aren't/are pseudo-canon.
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The missions you play are recreations of events that happened.
So that should make them canon.
Not the mission itself but what happened.
Big boss eliminated glaz and palitz
He got the classified intel
He rescued kojima
There was an airstrike that happened to a random base

How can you get the info from the tapes when you never got them in the first place since the missions werent canon?

Pseudo historical- a recreation based on historical events.
Or in this case. Recreations of missions big boss actually took part in.
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant by pseudo-canon. Though its kind of odd you get info on Camp Omega from other bases yet in the briefing tapes and by Ground Zeroes, Boss and Kaz don't seem to remember any of that, but they're not completely canon anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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May 7 2014, 02:54:08 AM
No, that makes no sense.
Well obviously the scene was cut unless we re-visit Camp Omega...which would be pointless
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