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[possible GZ spoilers] Chico = Quiet Theory
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B3nny56
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Apr 30 2014, 03:43:38 AM
Just my 2 cents for the whole sleeping with someone that's transgender; if I ever slept with a chick and found out she used to be a dude I'd throw myself in front of a train without a second of hesitation.
Maybe a bit over exaggerated but I'd cry myself to sleep for the rest of my days at the very least; shit is crazy.
That is absurd mate. There is genuinely no reason at all to be that bothered over something so minor. Transgender people are born that way. Their sex may be male, but their gender is definitely female. Why shouldn't their body match their gender like the rest of us? A female is a female. Whether they have/had a dick or not.
No actually if a female had a dick that means they were born a guy (or hermaphrodite I guess) - and they're now a transgender.
Im gonna use an extreme example; if I became gay, started calling myself a woman and dressed as a woman and was absolutely convinced I should've been born female; would that make me a female? No it would make me a gay guy who likes to dress as females and wants to be one. If I got a sex change at that point? Then I'd be a man who got surgery to become a woman. The "man who got surgery" part is a very key thing to that.

And look I'm not trying to be really disrespectful to people who wanna be transgender etc. They can go for it all they want; But in my opinion I don't think it matters what you think your gender is , were you born with a dick? You're a guy. born with a vag? You're a girl. It's a simple concept; and a surgery won't change the fact they're getting a surgery done to become something they're not because they don't like what they are. Like honestly it seems like avoidance at life problems; there's some things that can't be changed so just deal with it and move on - but things like this seems to put in the idea that life is perfect for you and everything should change to be perfect. Thjat's not really how life works y'know
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Apr 30 2014, 03:51:01 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 03:43:38 AM
Just my 2 cents for the whole sleeping with someone that's transgender; if I ever slept with a chick and found out she used to be a dude I'd throw myself in front of a train without a second of hesitation.
Maybe a bit over exaggerated but I'd cry myself to sleep for the rest of my days at the very least; shit is crazy.
That is absurd mate. There is genuinely no reason at all to be that bothered over something so minor. Transgender people are born that way. Their sex may be male, but their gender is definitely female. Why shouldn't their body match their gender like the rest of us? A female is a female. Whether they have/had a dick or not.
No actually if a female had a dick that means they were born a guy (or hermaphrodite I guess) - and they're now a transgender.
Im gonna use an extreme example; if I became gay, started calling myself a woman and dressed as a woman and was absolutely convinced I should've been born female; would that make me a female? No it would make me a gay guy who likes to dress as females and wants to be one. If I got a sex change at that point? Then I'd be a man who got surgery to become a woman. The "man who got surgery" part is a very key thing to that.

And look I'm not trying to be really disrespectful to people who wanna be transgender etc. They can go for it all they want; But in my opinion I don't think it matters what you think your gender is , were you born with a dick? You're a guy. born with a vag? You're a girl. It's a simple concept; and a surgery won't change the fact they're getting a surgery done to become something they're not because they don't like what they are. Like honestly it seems like avoidance at life problems; there's some things that can't be changed so just deal with it and move on - but things like this seems to put in the idea that life is perfect for you and everything should change to be perfect. Thjat's not really how life works y'know
You're an ignorant moron who doesn't know the difference between gender and sex. Also being gay has absolutely NOTHING to do with being transgender.
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Apr 30 2014, 03:49:12 PM
You are a horrible human being and I genuinely hope you suffer throughout your life.

EDIT- And so is Novitchsnake, but I already knew that.
lol.

What's with the constant hate dude? It's like you're angry 24/7 when reading your posts.
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I'm not, it's just an automatic response to stupidity.
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Apr 30 2014, 03:55:31 PM
Freeman
Apr 30 2014, 03:49:12 PM
You are a horrible human being and I genuinely hope you suffer throughout your life.

EDIT- And so is Novitchsnake, but I already knew that.
lol.

What's with the constant hate dude? It's like you're angry 24/7 when reading your posts.
He's not angry, he's right.
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Good lord if you want to debate your opinions on transexuality then go here. This thread is for Quiet and Chico and how likely/unlikely it is they're the same person.

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Apr 30 2014, 03:54:08 PM
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B3nny56
Apr 30 2014, 03:43:38 AM
Just my 2 cents for the whole sleeping with someone that's transgender; if I ever slept with a chick and found out she used to be a dude I'd throw myself in front of a train without a second of hesitation.
Maybe a bit over exaggerated but I'd cry myself to sleep for the rest of my days at the very least; shit is crazy.
That is absurd mate. There is genuinely no reason at all to be that bothered over something so minor. Transgender people are born that way. Their sex may be male, but their gender is definitely female. Why shouldn't their body match their gender like the rest of us? A female is a female. Whether they have/had a dick or not.
No actually if a female had a dick that means they were born a guy (or hermaphrodite I guess) - and they're now a transgender.
Im gonna use an extreme example; if I became gay, started calling myself a woman and dressed as a woman and was absolutely convinced I should've been born female; would that make me a female? No it would make me a gay guy who likes to dress as females and wants to be one. If I got a sex change at that point? Then I'd be a man who got surgery to become a woman. The "man who got surgery" part is a very key thing to that.

And look I'm not trying to be really disrespectful to people who wanna be transgender etc. They can go for it all they want; But in my opinion I don't think it matters what you think your gender is , were you born with a dick? You're a guy. born with a vag? You're a girl. It's a simple concept; and a surgery won't change the fact they're getting a surgery done to become something they're not because they don't like what they are. Like honestly it seems like avoidance at life problems; there's some things that can't be changed so just deal with it and move on - but things like this seems to put in the idea that life is perfect for you and everything should change to be perfect. Thjat's not really how life works y'know
You're an ignorant moron who doesn't know the difference between gender and sex. Also being gay has absolutely NOTHING to do with being transgender.
Why are you so mad dude? It's just an example I was using - sure I don't have to be gay but what straight girl would date the guy that does that? Calm the fuck down man.
Seriously; what isn't it so simple that if you're born a man you're man and if you're born a woman you're a woman.
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Apr 30 2014, 03:57:56 PM
I'm not, it's just an automatic response to stupidity.
Nope. You're just looking for an excuse to be mad at people all the time because of your own frustrating and empty life :rolleyes:

Honestly like I said. Unless you're God your opinion is as good as mine. They're like assholes. We all have one.
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@Freeman

You are making yourself look like a moron by posting just hate

If you can't add anything just leave


On topic

Well earlier I posted a joke gif.

Sorry I meant that as a joke

Now

If Kojima goes and makes Quiet trans, I call that BS

Because he made a NATURAL woman to look like her and play the role

Also on the whole thing if guys like trans or not

It depends on person to person. I personally find it to be a turn off and goes against my tastes

It has nothing to do with being confused as some ignorants are blabbling about
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I can't believe I breathe the same air as some of you guys. The ignorance in here is so profoundly idiotic and disgusting.

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There is no reason why Quiet would be Chico anyways.
I disagree. IMO, this is the most plausible MGS V theory to date. The rhyme and reasoning is there. As to whether or not anyone chooses to consider is up to them, but there is logic behind this theory.

Not saying I want this to happen, but I'm not gonna deny that this theory is definitely interesting and plausible.


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Apr 30 2014, 03:58:37 PM
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Freeman
Apr 30 2014, 03:49:12 PM
You are a horrible human being and I genuinely hope you suffer throughout your life.

EDIT- And so is Novitchsnake, but I already knew that.
lol.

What's with the constant hate dude? It's like you're angry 24/7 when reading your posts.
He's not angry, he's right.
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Like I wouldn't be pissed off if Chico did become Quiet, it's not like your boy/girlfriend has had a sex change without informing you...Like it's just a character. Personally, I'd like to see where Quiet goes with her own background and not Chico's
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Apr 30 2014, 04:02:33 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 04:22:31 AM
B3nny56
Apr 30 2014, 03:43:38 AM
Just my 2 cents for the whole sleeping with someone that's transgender; if I ever slept with a chick and found out she used to be a dude I'd throw myself in front of a train without a second of hesitation.
Maybe a bit over exaggerated but I'd cry myself to sleep for the rest of my days at the very least; shit is crazy.
That is absurd mate. There is genuinely no reason at all to be that bothered over something so minor. Transgender people are born that way. Their sex may be male, but their gender is definitely female. Why shouldn't their body match their gender like the rest of us? A female is a female. Whether they have/had a dick or not.
No actually if a female had a dick that means they were born a guy (or hermaphrodite I guess) - and they're now a transgender.
Im gonna use an extreme example; if I became gay, started calling myself a woman and dressed as a woman and was absolutely convinced I should've been born female; would that make me a female? No it would make me a gay guy who likes to dress as females and wants to be one. If I got a sex change at that point? Then I'd be a man who got surgery to become a woman. The "man who got surgery" part is a very key thing to that.

And look I'm not trying to be really disrespectful to people who wanna be transgender etc. They can go for it all they want; But in my opinion I don't think it matters what you think your gender is , were you born with a dick? You're a guy. born with a vag? You're a girl. It's a simple concept; and a surgery won't change the fact they're getting a surgery done to become something they're not because they don't like what they are. Like honestly it seems like avoidance at life problems; there's some things that can't be changed so just deal with it and move on - but things like this seems to put in the idea that life is perfect for you and everything should change to be perfect. Thjat's not really how life works y'know
You're an ignorant moron who doesn't know the difference between gender and sex. Also being gay has absolutely NOTHING to do with being transgender.
Why are you so mad dude? It's just an example I was using - sure I don't have to be gay but what straight girl would date the guy that does that? Calm the fuck down man.
Seriously; what isn't it so simple that if you're born a man you're man and if you're born a woman you're a woman.
It's not that simple and if you research you'll see some women are born in a man's body and vice versa. This is not an opinion, this is a fact. And there are plenty of men who date transwomen and women who date transmen, not that this is at all relevant but still.

@Jack no, my life is awesome and the fact that we're not god doesn't stop any of us from saying stupid things and having stupid opinions, as you demonstrated so well.
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Apr 30 2014, 03:49:12 PM
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eryones post but yours agree with Gaseous-Snake.


*looks at the comment below*

Well, there goes that argument. Also lol @ the argument that few agreeing opinions out of 17 000 equal as irrefutable evidence.

If you still disagree though feel free to make a poll/survey on the subject. You might actually get some support on this forum but on major sites like IGN or Gamespot I beg to differ.

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That is absurd mate. There is genuinely no reason at all to be that bothered over something so minor. Transgender people are born that way. Their sex may be male, but their gender is definitely female. Why shouldn't their body match their gender like the rest of us? A female is a female. Whether they have/had a dick or not.

In no way is that absurd. What is absurd is that you fail to realize that unless you're God, everything we've been discussing thus far has been purely subjective. Only thing objective that can be said about matters concerning human sexuality is that it's a subject that you can't just brush off like it's "no biggie". It's something that very much defines who we are. Just because you don't take biology into consideration when defining a woman that sure as hell doesn't mean I agree with that.

Regarding the situation that B3nny56 described, I'd probably have about the same kind of reaction. Withholding the fact that you were born a man would be to me worse than rape. My self-esteem and character, my very being would be in tatters after that. Would need some proper medication and psychotherapy to stop me hurting myself.

Also, I'd so sue that son of a bitch and take every penny from him for what he did to me. :glare:

But anyways, like someone said earlier, this thread went to shit long time ago

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EDIT- And so is Novitchsnake, but I already knew that.
novitchsnake is a horrible person because he wouldn't want to have sex with someone who had a sex change operation, but your not a horrible person for wanting someone to suffer throughout their life.



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Apr 30 2014, 04:06:00 PM
@Freeman

You are making yourself look like a moron by posting just hate

If you can't add anything just leave


On topic

Well earlier I posted a joke gif.

Sorry I meant that as a joke

Now

If Kojima goes and makes Quiet trans, I call that BS

Because he made a NATURAL woman to look like her and play the role

Also on the whole thing if guys like trans or not

It depends on person to person. I personally find it to be a turn off and goes against my tastes

It has nothing to do with being confused as some ignorants are blabbling about
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Apr 30 2014, 04:13:38 PM
Personally, I'd like to see where Quiet goes with her own background and not Chico's
Yes I agree. I'd like Quiet to be a completely new character. I'm genuinely tired of all the relations between characters in this universe tbh.

But still, if this theory proves true, there is a plethora of reasons as to why this would make sense imo.


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eryones post but yours agree with Gaseous-Snake.


*looks at the comment below*

Well, there goes that argument. Also lol @ the argument that few agreeing opinions out of 17 000 equal as irrefutable evidence.

If you still disagree though feel free to make a poll/survey on the subject. You might actually get some support on this forum but on major sites like IGN or Gamespot I beg to differ.

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That is absurd mate. There is genuinely no reason at all to be that bothered over something so minor. Transgender people are born that way. Their sex may be male, but their gender is definitely female. Why shouldn't their body match their gender like the rest of us? A female is a female. Whether they have/had a dick or not.

In no way is that absurd. What is absurd is that you fail to realize that unless you're God, everything we've been discussing thus far has been purely subjective. Only thing objective that can be said about matters concerning human sexuality is that it's a subject that you can't just brush off like it's "no biggie". It's something that very much defines who we are. Just because you don't take biology into consideration when defining a woman that sure as hell doesn't mean I agree with that.

Regarding the situation that B3nny56 described, I'd probably have about the same kind of reaction. Withholding the fact that you were born a man would be to me worse than rape. My self-esteem and character, my very being would be in tatters after that. Would need some proper medication and psychotherapy to stop me hurting myself.

Also, I'd so sue that son of a bitch and take every penny from him for what he did to me. :glare:

But anyways, like someone said earlier, this thread went to shit long time ago

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You are a horrible human being and I genuinely hope you suffer throughout your life.

EDIT- And so is Novitchsnake, but I already knew that.
novitchsnake is a horrible person because he wouldn't want to have sex with someone who had a sex change operation, but your not a horrible person for wanting someone to suffer throughout their life.



He's a horrible person for more reasons.

Other than that, you're right. He's terrible and I'm adorable.
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Apr 30 2014, 03:49:12 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 01:28:11 PM
Vergil
 
eryones post but yours agree with Gaseous-Snake.


*looks at the comment below*

Well, there goes that argument. Also lol @ the argument that few agreeing opinions out of 17 000 equal as irrefutable evidence.

If you still disagree though feel free to make a poll/survey on the subject. You might actually get some support on this forum but on major sites like IGN or Gamespot I beg to differ.

See Greene
 
That is absurd mate. There is genuinely no reason at all to be that bothered over something so minor. Transgender people are born that way. Their sex may be male, but their gender is definitely female. Why shouldn't their body match their gender like the rest of us? A female is a female. Whether they have/had a dick or not.

In no way is that absurd. What is absurd is that you fail to realize that unless you're God, everything we've been discussing thus far has been purely subjective. Only thing objective that can be said about matters concerning human sexuality is that it's a subject that you can't just brush off like it's "no biggie". It's something that very much defines who we are. Just because you don't take biology into consideration when defining a woman that sure as hell doesn't mean I agree with that.

Regarding the situation that B3nny56 described, I'd probably have about the same kind of reaction. Withholding the fact that you were born a man would be to me worse than rape. My self-esteem and character, my very being would be in tatters after that. Would need some proper medication and psychotherapy to stop me hurting myself.

Also, I'd so sue that son of a bitch and take every penny from him for what he did to me. :glare:

But anyways, like someone said earlier, this thread went to shit long time ago

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You are a horrible human being and I genuinely hope you suffer throughout your life.

EDIT- And so is Novitchsnake, but I already knew that.
novitchsnake is a horrible person because he wouldn't want to have sex with someone who had a sex change operation, but your not a horrible person for wanting someone to suffer throughout their life.



He's a horrible person for more reasons.

Other than that, you're right. He's terrible and I'm adorable.
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I love how everyone is just coming in here and saying "omg you guys are so stupid" etc but don't have anything to backup why they're saying that. Im not trying to be a dick and Im not completely shut off to reason; so some new info would be quite appreciated rather than just being pricks.
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It depends on person to person. I personally find it to be a turn off and goes against my tastes

That's literally all I'm saying and I added why it's personally a turn off. (personally as in me, my own opinion, not a fact, my thoughts, etc) Idk why everyone is being a prick about it.
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Apr 30 2014, 04:13:38 PM
Personally, I'd like to see where Quiet goes with her own background and not Chico's
This because

A. I don't like Chico. I think he's a whiny brat who screwed up a lot of shit.. IMO.

2. I'd rather Quiet have her own character arc.

And

D. I'm afraid that Kojima wouldn't know how to write a believable transgender character.

Carry on.
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