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[possible GZ spoilers] Chico = Quiet Theory
Topic Started: Mar 30 2014, 01:27:55 AM (6,933 Views)
Ev.
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Apr 30 2014, 07:18:36 PM
Even taking into consideration all the things in the mgs universe that exists before their time.
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Practically perfect sex change doesnt seem plausible even by mgs standards
There really isn't much to it. Hormones which would alter the body fat placement, muscle and so on, grow breasts and then there would be the reassignment surgery. Depending when he would have started hormones any other surgery or such would be entirely unnecessary as testosterone wouldn't have already changed the body in the first place.

Honestly though I see Chico, assuming he lives, becoming more of a vengeful soldier that goes with Kaz after Boss enters the coma and helps him with recon and combat missions and stuff, growing into a pretty hardened soldier by time Boss links back up with them.
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Apr 30 2014, 06:21:15 PM
Get on topic or get out, warnings will be given to members constantly discussing off topic material. As black king kindly pointed out, there is an opinions and confessions forum just waiting for a good debate so if you want to discuss transgenders, homosexuals or whatever do so there. This thread is specifically about the Chico = Paz Quiet theory. (Lol, what a cock up)

Last chance, guys.

edit: that was directed at acid boss and bladewolf, not you Ev.
Edited by Gene, Apr 30 2014, 07:33:15 PM.
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Eagle
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Apr 30 2014, 07:21:44 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:18:31 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:04:29 PM
Still think chico being quiet doesnt make sense.
I dont see chico being able to go within nine years and get the money to have a sex change.
Unless he made some friends on his travels and they did him a favor.
But honestly.
As traumatizing what he went through was for him, i dont see him NOT getting over it in nine years.
If he did the operation before then , it makes less sense because that would mean he had less time he would have had to either
Get the money or meet the people todo it.
Mgs might have very weird logic but it still has it and has been consistent in how the series as evolved.
Kaz haven't gotten over the destruction of MotherBase in 9 years. I can't see Chico, who is 13, getting over the torture and death of the live of his life either.
Well kaz has constant reminders, the loss of his limbs and the loss of his comrades.
All chico has are his memories.. And in nine years that would eventually
Go away
Kojima has repeatedly stated that the phantom pain isn't just the loss of limbs, but also of loved ones and of sense. And you just said it yourself, Kaz feels the loss of his comrades. Chico feels the loss of Paz, the girl he loves. And there is now way that, at 22, he'd forget what happened to him at the age of 13, considering it was THE most brutal and traumatizing experience of his life. Saying that Chico would just forget about Paz is like saying that Big Boss would just forget about the Boss.
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Apr 30 2014, 07:21:44 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:18:31 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:04:29 PM
Still think chico being quiet doesnt make sense.
I dont see chico being able to go within nine years and get the money to have a sex change.
Unless he made some friends on his travels and they did him a favor.
But honestly.
As traumatizing what he went through was for him, i dont see him NOT getting over it in nine years.
If he did the operation before then , it makes less sense because that would mean he had less time he would have had to either
Get the money or meet the people todo it.
Mgs might have very weird logic but it still has it and has been consistent in how the series as evolved.
Kaz haven't gotten over the destruction of MotherBase in 9 years. I can't see Chico, who is 13, getting over the torture and death of the live of his life either.
Well kaz has constant reminders, the loss of his limbs and the loss of his comrades.
All chico has are his memories.. And in nine years that would eventually
Go away
Speaking of constant reminders, trauma can easily cause a person to be "frozen" in a moment for any number of years. For example, it's been almost ten years and I remember some trauma as if it just happened. Hell, it happens again in your mind when you don't want it to[flashbacks].
Edited by Agent27, Apr 30 2014, 07:42:58 PM.
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Apr 30 2014, 07:18:36 PM
Even taking into consideration all the things in the mgs universe that exists before their time.
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Practically perfect sex change doesnt seem plausible even by mgs standards
Really? In a series with man controlled bees, spirit mediums, photosynthetic humans, people who can cover themselves with lightning, cyborg ninjas, and human AIs; the sex change is where you draw the limit? :huh:
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Edited by AbudJasemAlBaldawi, Apr 30 2014, 07:43:07 PM.
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Apr 30 2014, 07:40:12 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:22:47 PM
I dunno, I would fuck Lady Gaga
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Guys, let's stay on topic and talk about Chico and Quiet. Not the people who attract us.
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Apr 30 2014, 07:39:35 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:18:36 PM
Even taking into consideration all the things in the mgs universe that exists before their time.
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Practically perfect sex change doesnt seem plausible even by mgs standards
Really? In a series with man controlled bees, spirit mediums, photosynthetic humans, people who can cover themselves with lightning, cyborg ninjas, and human AIs; the sex change is where you draw the limit? :huh:
Oh yea volgin... Right... Most of the mgs3 bosses needed better explanation.

The thing to consider here is all the medical feats the mgs universe has accomplished and when and then compare all of that to this situation to see if its plausible.

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Saying that Chico would just forget about Paz is like saying that Big Boss would just forget about the Boss.

Well there is a difference with what chico did to paz and what big boss did to the boss.
One was rape the love of your life against your will, or like chico said "for her" the other was a fight to the death with a former mentor who was more than just someone big boss loved, and went even deeper than just a man and a women, and having to kill her himself all for the sake of his mission.
He got over the boss in 10 years or actually 9'when you think about it, when he destroyed peace walker and threw away his bandana.
Now im not saying chico will forget completely, yea he would have flash backs and stuff. But he wouldnt be traumatized to the point of having a sex change after all that time. He could calm down about it in a few years at best withought going to the extreme.
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Chico is quiet...riiiiiggghhhht, I love the community on this forum ^_^
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Apr 28 2014, 01:05:55 AM
THIS THEORY IS LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON IM INTERESTED IN MGSV SINGLEPLAYER
Dongs popping out of bikinis during cutscenes, instant buy.
Hate to burst your bubble before you burst that nut but the theory involves Chico removing his penis.
Don't destroy the dream.
Ehaa...why remove the penis? it's the fruit of life? I dont like this theory anymore.
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This thread is giving me a PHANTOM PAIN in the ASS literally...
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Hahahahahahhhaaaahaaa! I will laugh at your avatars when MGS V Phantom Pain comes out and Chico and Quiet aren't the same character, weirdos!
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I think Chico would move on once he sees Quiet tee hee.
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Paz > Quiet.

Quiet is not Chico as well.
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Apr 30 2014, 08:01:25 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:39:35 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 07:18:36 PM
Even taking into consideration all the things in the mgs universe that exists before their time.
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Practically perfect sex change doesnt seem plausible even by mgs standards
Really? In a series with man controlled bees, spirit mediums, photosynthetic humans, people who can cover themselves with lightning, cyborg ninjas, and human AIs; the sex change is where you draw the limit? :huh:
Oh yea volgin... Right... Most of the mgs3 bosses needed better explanation.

The thing to consider here is all the medical feats the mgs universe has accomplished and when and then compare all of that to this situation to see if its plausible.

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Saying that Chico would just forget about Paz is like saying that Big Boss would just forget about the Boss.

Well there is a difference with what chico did to paz and what big boss did to the boss.
One was rape the love of your life against your will, or like chico said "for her" the other was a fight to the death with a former mentor who was more than just someone big boss loved, and went even deeper than just a man and a women, and having to kill her himself all for the sake of his mission.
He got over the boss in 10 years or actually 9'when you think about it, when he destroyed peace walker and threw away his bandana.
Now im not saying chico will forget completely, yea he would have flash backs and stuff. But he wouldnt be traumatized to the point of having a sex change after all that time. He could calm down about it in a few years at best withought going to the extreme.
I'm not saying that happened between Chico and Paz is the same as what happened between Big Boss and the Boss. It's not. BB and the Boss, I see it as more of a mother-son relationship, maybe even more. But what I'm saying is that the same way the Boss was essential to Big Boss' character, so is Paz to Chico. It's been established multiple times throughout Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes that Chico loves Paz.

And Snake didn't get ever get truly over the Boss death. He states as much in MGS4 when he says that he was already dead ever since the day he killed the Boss with his own hands.
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Apr 30 2014, 10:13:00 PM
Paz > Quiet.

Quiet is not Chico as well.
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I think Chico would move on once he sees Quiet tee hee.


Doubt it. I don't ever see Chico ever getting over Paz and her death. It makes his character all that much more tragic and motivated for revenge in TPP.
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Apr 30 2014, 02:53:33 AM
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Apr 30 2014, 12:54:56 AM
for me there's no shame in being attracted to a beautiful woman who used to be a man since they have a pretty face and all the proper organs necessary to bring about sexual arousal.
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Apr 30 2014, 10:35:20 PM
Doubt it. I don't ever see Chico ever getting over Paz and her death. It makes his character all that much more tragic and motivated for revenge in TPP.
Just messing :P

I wonder if Chico will even be in the game. Maybe he'll be one of those maskless Diamond Dogs soldiers.
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BatouYukinawa
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Why do some think Chico is Quiet? As far as theories, this one just seems out of left field. There's no correlation between the two whatsoever that I can see.
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